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If I started an argument and became very angry is my partner's response of one-off physical abuse acceptable?

89 replies

PeasePudding2 · 06/01/2024 19:48

After a long afternoon and evening in which a fair amount of alcohol was consumed my partner and I had a bad argument when we got home. I started the argument as I was very fed up at having been left for hours chatting to people I did not know well, who were very drunk themselves and repeating themselves whilst my partner was chatting to various other friends of his. The whole group were friends of his rather than mine. I voiced my irritation in no uncertain terms when we got home. Like the others, I too had drunk too much. My partner started shouting and getting very angry with me for my complaint and ended up pushing me hard so that I fell and hurt myself and a precious heornament broke and I burst into tears. Minutes later he attacked me again because I threw his suit down that he had carefully put into a suit carrier. He doesn't live with me so I shouted at him to leave. He did leave. I am covered in bruises including one on my neck. We have been together for 10 years though we live at different ends of the country. I am not perfect and do have a temper which can flare when I feel I am being treated unfairly. My temper had flared that night. My partner is rather self-centred, not that generous in terms of kindness, very over sensitive to perceived criticism and rather childish - often more like a 14 year old boy than a man of 64. Does my complaint about the evening (being left with boring people) and bad mood on arriving home justify his actions at all?

Apologies for long lengthy explanation.

OP posts:
Littlegoth · 06/01/2024 20:54

I’ve not even read your post. No it isn’t. Not ever. There’s never a justifiable excuse. Leave. Report him to the police so that any woman with the sense to run a Claire’s law in future can be warned about him.

Sparkletastic · 06/01/2024 20:55

You didn't deserve to be treated with violence. I hope you end the relationship.

PeasePudding2 · 06/01/2024 20:57

TheShellBeach · 06/01/2024 20:52

Yes. And Mumsnet is usually so helpful to women who are suffering domestic violence.

The trouble is that a lot of posters on here will seize on any opportunity to berate you for drinking alcohol. It's outrageous.

You were covered in bruises FFS.

I think I was probably being unreasonable in being annoyed/irritated by the way the funeral event had panned out. A few people have said that, and I agree with them. They still feel that my partner's response was way out of order though which is helpful to how I will decide to proceed. Thank you, ShellBeach for your support. I am feeling a bit less lost now.

OP posts:
Fannyfiggs · 06/01/2024 20:58

IncognitoUsername · 06/01/2024 20:30

Why are people assuming OP has a drink problem? Just because she had too much on one occasion- did I miss a post where it was stated this was a pattern of behaviour?

This ☝️

As soon as someone says they were drunk on Mumsnet the pearl clutchers come out to tell you how toxic you are and how you're an alcoholic and need to stop drinking. And it's all your fault for being drunk. It boils my piss!

OP, this was not your fault. Your partner chose to lift his hand to you, you did not make him.

My advice would be to end the relationship for your own sanity and safety. He doesn't sound like a good man.

Redlarge · 06/01/2024 21:01

No. Hes assaulted you.

Soontobe60 · 06/01/2024 21:05

You getting drunk and starting an argument is one incident. Him assaulting you is a different incident. I would say that the only time one person A should be using force against another person B is if B is attacking A and A is trying to prevent themselves getting hurt.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 06/01/2024 21:09

Moier · 06/01/2024 20:27

This is what alcohol does.. just like so many threads on here. People bored because they haven't had a drink... People arguing because they have had a drink.. People getting physically abused because of drink.. People getting killed through alcohol.. just because its legal it doesn't make it right to drink too much .. then suffer the consequences.. grow up.
You both are in the wrong ... it's alcohol that's the enemy.

Nope. People are the issue. Alcohol just fuels it.

GrumpyPanda · 06/01/2024 21:10

Moier · 06/01/2024 20:27

This is what alcohol does.. just like so many threads on here. People bored because they haven't had a drink... People arguing because they have had a drink.. People getting physically abused because of drink.. People getting killed through alcohol.. just because its legal it doesn't make it right to drink too much .. then suffer the consequences.. grow up.
You both are in the wrong ... it's alcohol that's the enemy.

I beg to differ. OP was justifiably annoyed because her partner took endlessly socializing with friends and making her wait around. If she had remained stone cold sober the situation would have been at least as annoying. Or are you saying women shouldn't complain to their partners when they're unhappy with how they are treated?

PTSDBarbiegirl · 06/01/2024 21:14

End it. You deserve much much more and this man reacts to his ego being wounded aswell as not controlling himself. It could have been an argument at the top of a staircase. Get out of it OP.

Janieforever · 06/01/2024 21:15

GrumpyPanda · 06/01/2024 21:10

I beg to differ. OP was justifiably annoyed because her partner took endlessly socializing with friends and making her wait around. If she had remained stone cold sober the situation would have been at least as annoying. Or are you saying women shouldn't complain to their partners when they're unhappy with how they are treated?

Sorry I disagree with you, she’s all grown up. Not a child to be baby sat. And yes it was alcohol related, she herself said that. She shouldn’t have went if she wants to be stuck with him and he’s not allowed to socialise. But as said. Nothing excuses violence.

Chaiandtoast · 06/01/2024 21:20

My partner is rather self-centred, not that generous in terms of kindness, very over sensitive to perceived criticism and rather childish - often more like a 14 year old boy than a man of 64.

and he attacked you twice…

is there a reason you’re trying to cling on to this man or this relationship? I’d rather be single.

Chaiandtoast · 06/01/2024 21:25

My post came across a bit harsh. It just felt like you were trying to justify his behaviour to decide if you had to accept it because it was potentially your fault. He sounds shit. You don’t deserve to be treated like that.

LolaSmiles · 06/01/2024 21:29

You getting drunk and starting an argument is one incident. Him assaulting you is a different incident.
Agree with this.
You were drunk and picking a fight and have honestly acknowledged that you've got a bit of a temper.

He was violent and assaulted you.

There is still no excuse for his behaviour.

It's probably best that this relationship ends now so you're not at risk of further violence and before you get into another relationship you give yourself some TLC and get to the bottom of your own issues.

Ofcourseshecan · 06/01/2024 21:33

If I started an argument and became very angry is my partner's response of one-off physical abuse acceptable?

No. I read your whole post, but didn’t need to. The answer is always No.

ThisIsntThe80sPat · 06/01/2024 21:45

This is never acceptable. You will never trust him again and will always wonder when he'll next lash out. Don't live like that. Leave.

Tilllly · 06/01/2024 21:54

But it wasn't a one off

First he pushed you down, then minutes later attacked you again

End it

Lizzbear · 06/01/2024 21:54

It sounds like you had a normal argument after a img and frustrating day, where you were left to talk with strangers.
His response was completely uncalled for and out of control. I've been there. It never gets better.

motherofkevinnotperry · 06/01/2024 21:56

Never acceptable op! You can't stay in this relationship, you must end it for your own safety.

LifeExperience · 06/01/2024 22:00

There is never an excuse for physical violence in a relationship, regardless of whether it was provoked or not. Bin him.

FishTheRiver · 06/01/2024 22:03

I like the phrasing of it being two incidents.

There is never ever an excuse for violence. You have to ltb. I'd report him if I were you.

It sounded an awful relationship even prior to violence. You need to work out why were you with him and you need to work out why you have a 'temper'.

theconfidenceofwho · 06/01/2024 22:11

Agree with @Fannyfiggs & everyone else who has said similar. You need to get rid of him.

Coconutter24 · 06/01/2024 22:16

PeasePudding2 · 06/01/2024 20:21

I will add that I think I might be one of the more honest posters here. I have read a lot of the other posts about abuse and it seems to me that the person abused never ever mentions anything they might have done to be annoying to the other. At least I had the honesty to do that in my post.

Well done you for knowing you might be annoying and start rows but I hope you’re not implying victims of domestic violence do something to annoy the abuser, you’re basically saying they bring it on themselves!

RogueFemale · 06/01/2024 22:36

"My partner... ended up pushing me hard so that I fell and hurt myself...minutes later he attacked me again"

"My partner is rather self-centred, not that generous in terms of kindness, very over sensitive to perceived criticism and rather childish - often more like a 14 year old boy than a man of 64"

He sounds really awful. And physical violence is the biggest of big red flags. I'd be running for the hills.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 06/01/2024 22:37

Nothing excuses what he did to you
End the relationship right now
Don't give him to opportunity to hurt you again
Take photos of your injuries now and consider reporting him to the police
Seek medical help if you need it.
Might be helpful for you to ask a friend over to support you

TempleOfBloom · 06/01/2024 22:55

Inexcusable behaviour by him. The fact that he really went for you.

It sounds as if it wasn’t the greatest of a relationship anyway.

You can’t be with someone who attacked you like that.

None of which means it wouldn’t also be useful to reflect on your need for him to be talking to you instead of to friends when the funeral was for his friend’s sister. And why chatting to people you didn’t know well was such an ordeal that you were so needy / angry with him.

But he lost all ground by behaving violently. Ot must have been very shocking.

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