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Is my boyfriend being controlling? He says not. Need advice

76 replies

Rubywaterlily · 20/11/2023 12:53

So I will preface this by saying I am neurodivergent (autism and possible adhd) so I struggle with peoples intentions massively and would say I’m probably easily manipulated and tend to overlook red flags. I was in a 4 year long emotionally abusive relationship between 2012-2016.

My current boyfriend of one year doesn’t seem to like me talking to men. I have recently started a new job after working remotely for a year, and 80% of my colleagues are male, this doesn’t bother me at all. They’ve all been kind to me and all seem fine but like I mentioned I struggle with peoples intentions sometimes so maybe I’m being naive.

ANY time I mention anyone from work, my boyfriend says they’re weird or he doesn’t like them, or he doesn’t trust them, or he thinks they fancy me. One of the lads I work with would often sit in the reception area that I work in after his shift and chat to me for an hour before his bus arrives. I didn’t think anything of it, he was waiting for his bus, he was from a different country so he’d tell me about his life back there which was interesting and it was all just normal chit chat. My boyfriend hated it and didn’t trust him and said it was odd. The lad from work ended up leaving and I found out he did have a bit of a thing for me, something I was absolutely oblivious to and would NEVER reciprocate because I have a boyfriend. I told my boyfriend just in passing and I regretted it instantly, it reaffirmed everything he thought. I didn’t say it to upset him I just said it because I was shocked, which maybe was insensitive to my boyfriend :(

But he now makes me feel uncomfortable every time I mention ANYONE from work, which is hard because I only have one female colleague I see daily and we swap shifts when I come in so I don’t spend much time with her. We recently had a massive argument, I asked him if he’d prefer if I didn’t mention anyone at work because I didn’t want to make him feel uncomfortable.

He flew off the handle saying I was accusing him of being controlling, accusing him of not letting me speak to people, accusing me of saying he was an awful person for trying to say what I can and can’t do and I honestly wasn’t trying to do that :( I just asked because I wanted to make sure I wasn’t upsetting him, sometimes my autism means things I say get taken the wrong way so I don’t know if I came across wrong :( but all I said was literally ‘Do you want me to not mention anything about my work? I don’t want to make you feel uncomfortable by talking about it’.

He has just reignited the argument because last night another colleague I was chatting to was talking about dr*gs being rife in the industry were in (c0ke mostly) and in jest he offered me some. I declined and said no thank you not for me and that was the end of it, the lad said I don’t blame you it’s bad for you, conversation moved on to something else. I had mentioned it to my boyfriend which again maybe I was being insensitive without realising, but he’s absolutely flew off again, saying he can’t handle men coercing me to drugs and how I don’t let him be angry at things and he might as well not say anything to me because he can’t have an opinion.

Im just feeling so deflated :( I obviously didn’t take up the offer, I don’t think the lad at work was being serious either. My partner has told me multiple times about his friend group offering him dr*gs when they’re out, and occasionally he has taken them. I’ve never said anything because although it’s not something I’d do, I can’t tell him what he can and can’t do. I’ve tried to explain myself and sent a reply apologising but I’m terrified for his reply. He often gets defensive and puts words in my mouth, and pushes me until I bite back and it’s all very stressful :(

I don’t know what else I can do other than not speak to the people at work, I’ve told him this and he again says I’m accusing him of being controlling and says he’s never told me I can’t stop speaking to them which he hasn’t ever said, but every time I do speak to them he doesn’t like it so i feel like I can’t.

AIBU? Please can someone give an outsiders opinion.

OP posts:
Bananalanacake · 20/11/2023 12:58

You need to dump this controlling, possessive bastard right now.
Don't let him move in with you.

something2say · 20/11/2023 12:58

Yep its controlling. Overly jealous. The end result being, you aren't allowed to speak to any men, or you choose to isolate yourself to make your relationship easier.

And I don't like how this can so easily be twisted round onto your ND. A decent loving boyfriend would not use that against you.

My advice is to end this relationship and find someone better, safer and more loving xx I'm so sorry you are going through this x

StBrides · 20/11/2023 13:02

Only need to read "doesn't like me talking to men" to confirm that yes. He is very controlling.

Ltb

pikkumyy77 · 20/11/2023 13:03

He is isolating you. I think its useful to look at what he does rather thsn st his excuses or representations for what he does.

He isolates you
he speaks angrily to you
he does not respect you
he makes you feel insecure
he makes you anxious
he treats you as though you were incompetent
he puts his insecurity above your security
etc…

These are sll bad. Whether you define them as controlling or not, whether he blames you for “making” him have this response or not these are just bad.

Rubywaterlily · 20/11/2023 13:04

Update he has replied to me apologising to him by saying that he’s angry because I ‘defend’ them rather than agree with him. I do defend them because they haven’t done anything wrong :( everything has been totally innocent but now I’m panicking and don’t know what to do because I’m scared to reply to him as he’s going to argue with me.

OP posts:
PickAChew · 20/11/2023 13:05

He is being controlling and losing his temper reinforces that. He cannot expect you to have no contact with men in your day to day life.

GarlicMaybeNot · 20/11/2023 13:05

Just adding my agreement with PPs in case you need a lot of feedback!
No, his behaviour isn't normal.
It is not loving.
A partner who flies off the handle whenever he feels a little uncomfortable is dangerous.
His words & actions are controlling.
You are not free to safely chat about your day when at home.
It's time to end this.

Remember you don't need to justify your choices about your relationship: your personal life isn't a court of law.

GreatGateauxsby · 20/11/2023 13:06

100% your boyfriend is the one with a problem.

Greycottage · 20/11/2023 13:06

Yes, he is being controlling. He sounds awful.

A kind, secure man would not be intimidated by you having male colleagues, and would be supportive of your career and interested to hear about your day. That’s the kind of man you deserve, OP, not this loser.

Pipsquiggle · 20/11/2023 13:06

Yes he is being controlling. Getting jealous over normal colleague relationships is a huge red flag.

Does he struggle with your self-confessed naivety? TBH if a bloke is talking to you for an hour after work every day when he could be :
at the pub
at the gym
doing some extra work
meeting with mates
on social media.....................................it's pretty clear that he likes spending a lot of time with you. You probably should have picked up on these vibes.

This does not mean your partner can berate you though and get jealous - you did nothing wrong

GarlicMaybeNot · 20/11/2023 13:06

Then don't reply.
Or, do reply saying you're not getting into an argument.

PickAChew · 20/11/2023 13:07

Rubywaterlily · 20/11/2023 13:04

Update he has replied to me apologising to him by saying that he’s angry because I ‘defend’ them rather than agree with him. I do defend them because they haven’t done anything wrong :( everything has been totally innocent but now I’m panicking and don’t know what to do because I’m scared to reply to him as he’s going to argue with me.

Edited

Don't waste your breath trying to reason with him. Tell him to get lost and then block him.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 20/11/2023 13:08

Got as far as My current boyfriend of one year doesn’t seem to like me talking to men.

Yes, he's controlling.

Bobtheamazinggingerdog · 20/11/2023 13:09

He's controlling and he makes you unhappy. You don't have to stay with him!

Greycottage · 20/11/2023 13:09

@Pipsquiggle The OP said chatty colleague was waiting for the bus. In rural areas there can be literally nothing to do while you’re waiting for the next hourly bus. Waiting in reception and chatting to your colleague is perfectly normal.

useitorlose · 20/11/2023 13:09

He can't argue with you unless you join in. End the relationship for your own wellbeing. He is using your autism to make sure you second-guess everything that goes on and he is taking advantage of you. You need to get out of the relationship and find someone with healthy boundaries who supports you, not puts you down.

IncompleteSenten · 20/11/2023 13:11

Yes he is being controlling.

He's trying to make you believe that because he hasn't told you directly to not talk to males that he's not controlling you.

But he is creating a bad atmosphere and making you worried and like you need to change your behaviours so he doesn't get angry.

That's no less controlling of him than if he said you are not allowed to speak to anyone male.

BiscuitsandPuffin · 20/11/2023 13:11

Rubywaterlily · 20/11/2023 13:04

Update he has replied to me apologising to him by saying that he’s angry because I ‘defend’ them rather than agree with him. I do defend them because they haven’t done anything wrong :( everything has been totally innocent but now I’m panicking and don’t know what to do because I’m scared to reply to him as he’s going to argue with me.

Edited

You have to stop believing what he says. He is actually apologising to try and bring you back under his control because he knows you are questioning what is true and what isn't.
You really really need to dump this one. He has not got your best interests in his heart and he really is controlling (and manipulating you with the fake apology). Don't confront him, he isn't the type to accept wrongdoing, just leave.
Relationships should not feel like this.

Rubywaterlily · 20/11/2023 13:11

@Pipsquiggle Yes he does, he doesn’t seem to understand why I can’t pick up on these things but I really do struggle with peoples intention. He said the same thing that I should have realised something was up but I just thought because his bus wasn’t due for an hour he’d rather sit inside the warm reception and have a chat than wait at the bus stop in the cold/rain. It is my fault because I take a lot of things at face value and don’t see past that so I understand why he doesn’t like it :( but I don’t know how to learn how to not do that. My autism diagnosis is still very new (I was diagnosed 3 years ago mid twenties) so i still don’t even know how to explain myself at times.

OP posts:
FawnDrench · 20/11/2023 13:12

Finish the relationship NOW.
Don't dither or worry about what he might say.
You need to think of yourself.

Do it today.

AliceOlive · 20/11/2023 13:12

Yes, and he’s trying to control your thoughts and responses to him. He doesn’t even know these people. He’s angry because you don’t agree with him.

He won’t get better; he will only get angrier as time goes on.

AliceOlive · 20/11/2023 13:14

So what if a guy sat waiting for the bus because he likes you? You didn’t like him back, or do anything wrong.

Guys like this treat women as a possession. This isn’t about protecting you, it’s threatening to him because he believes you belong to him and he feels insulted.

2024writeanovel · 20/11/2023 13:15

Cocaine is rife is the industry you are in is this correct?

I am not saying stay with your BF however, be mindful that the men you work with especially if cocaine is rife may also not be people you want to be too friendly with.

I personally can only tolerate 5 minutes chitchat when I’m working so the guy hanging round for an hour would bother me but I’ve always worked in super busy jobs so I wouldn’t have an hour to idle away either. If was bored at work I can see how chatting to someone would pass the time too.

I am off work now til the New Year and then I’m going back quarter time so that’s why I’m on Mumsnet idling my time away will start my novel next year too.

theduchessofspork · 20/11/2023 13:15

Yes he is controlling OP - someone who doesn’t like their partner speaking to men is controlling. There is no debate about this.

Leave him - firstly because you deserve a lovely bloke who will support and care for you, not this arsehole - and secondly because as you’ve said yourself you may miss red flags more than most because of your neurodivergence, so you are especially vulnerable to escalation. You could easily get trapped before you know it - so leave now.

theduchessofspork · 20/11/2023 13:16

2024writeanovel · 20/11/2023 13:15

Cocaine is rife is the industry you are in is this correct?

I am not saying stay with your BF however, be mindful that the men you work with especially if cocaine is rife may also not be people you want to be too friendly with.

I personally can only tolerate 5 minutes chitchat when I’m working so the guy hanging round for an hour would bother me but I’ve always worked in super busy jobs so I wouldn’t have an hour to idle away either. If was bored at work I can see how chatting to someone would pass the time too.

I am off work now til the New Year and then I’m going back quarter time so that’s why I’m on Mumsnet idling my time away will start my novel next year too.

Edited

Excellent missing of the point of the thread