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He pulled me down so he could get up

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StillAliveButImBarelyBreathing · 05/11/2023 23:38

Metaphorically speaking.

When we got together, he was down on his luck and I quickly fell unhappily into the mother role. I finally extricated myself from the relationship at the end of last year and was excited to finally start living life for myself after a string of toxic and abusive relationships. My hope for better things to come was quickly extinguished when he immediately struck up a relationship with my (ex)best friend who also happens to live a few streets away. Although I wouldn’t see it at the time, she was incredibly cruel to me and started distancing herself.

I was devastated but blocked them both and tried my best to move on with my life. I was feeling so much stronger until I received a letter from him, the gist of which is that life is amazing for him now and he’s over me. He thanked me for trying to help him but said that hurting him had made him sort his life out so he forgives me. Ever since, I have sunken back into the depths of grief and can’t find a way out.

I recently found out that he’s having a huge birthday party with (ex)BF’s circle that she always kept me at arms length from. He has a magnetic personality and everyone loves him so I’m not surprised things are going so well for him and he’s yet again found himself the centre of attention. I know I should be happy for him but it feels so unfair that I sacrificed so much to help him get his life on track and I’m repaid by catastrophic damage to mine.

My faith and trust in people has been absolutely destroyed and I don’t want to hang out with my incredibly small remaining support network because I’m such a drag to be around at the moment. My self esteem has been crushed, especially as one of the last things exBF said to me was that she preferred his company and implied I was boring. I have a milestone birthday coming up and I know it’s just going to be a reminder of all I’ve lost. I’ve already had my fair share of trauma yet it keeps on coming and I just want to give up.

How am I ever going to get over it? Right now I can’t imagine ever being happy again.

OP posts:
Pherian · 07/11/2023 11:55

I think you need to look into Narcissistic abuse. This guy sounds like a classic case. Dr. Ramani Durvusula on youtube is a great resource and it helped me out of a relationship with one.
What he is doing is called Hoovering.

StillAliveButImBarelyBreathing · 07/11/2023 20:31

@Nicole1111, that’s a good way to think of it. I’m so stuck and in pain that I can’t envisage the future at all. I’ve also read one or two threads where people are still not over a betrayal years later and I worry this will be me also.

@Acornsoup, you are so right, the work is excruciating. I guess some weight loss and a new adoring friendship circle has probably masked some of his issues for now but he’s still the same person. Thank you so much for your kind words.

@Newestname002, thank you, that really helped to hear that I come across as strong. Some days I resent that I have had to be so strong for such a long time, I’m tired but I have to keep going.

@Thisisworsethananticpated, has anything changed for you since you started therapy? I’m only a couple of months in and so far I feel worse although I am learning a lot about myself. Sometimes I just want to fast forward until I’m out the other side but I’m also acutely aware of the passing of time, triggered by the looming milestone birthday.

@MariaLuna, I’d not considered that before but yes, I’m seeing that what a cruel person she can be. This is helping to remind me that she was no great loss. I can’t wait to be able to say ‘fuck him’. I’m getting there i think.

@AliceOlive, that’s a really good point. She happily tortured me once they started getting close by ‘accidentally’ arse dialling me while they were together so I could hear them laughing and joking together, telling me how all her friends were asking about her new handsome man and everyone speculating about whether they were together, telling me he and I could never be friends (before he fell out with me) for x, y, z reasons, telling me how angry he was with me but refusing to hear a bad word about him, telling me I should go find some rich friends when my divorce money finally came through (10 years in the making and a lot of hard work on my part as I send repped the whole way through) etc. etc. Like I do far too often, I tried to see the best in her and didn’t recognise her cruelty for what it was. I imagine she’ll treat him better than she did me because I was a threat as a younger single woman and he’s potential boyfriend material.

@mushroomsinplantpots, yes, that’s true. I probably shouldn’t take the letter at face value. I have thought a lot about moving which is another layer to the trauma because this is my first house and he’s well aware of how happy I’ve been living here. It was a new area and a fresh start for me and my children which has been tainted by what’s happened. For a long time, I felt such pain having to pass her house and see his car in the driveway. There’s no prospect of moving anytime soon as the house is a doer upper which aren’t selling right now plus it quite quirky and niche so won’t appeal to many people. Thank you for reminding me that there’s life on the other side, it feels so impossibly far away right now.

@Pherian, I’ve never considered that he could be a narc but a few posts here have got me thinking. He’s the best covert narc going if so!

OP posts:
StillAliveButImBarelyBreathing · 07/11/2023 20:39

Thank you again for all the support and kind words. They’ve been so so helpful. I feel ever so slightly better today.

I would never tell her but it’s made me feel like I have a little power in the situation as what MB doesn’t know is that he was very unkind about her behind her back, always making jokes about her and was quite forward about the fact he didn’t like her when he and I were together. She backed the wrong horse.

I had my therapy today. My homework is to think about what I want my life to be like in 5 years. I’m finding it very hard to imagine a happy future at the moment so hopefully this will help. We talked about all the things going on in my life right now and how I’m having to navigate without the support of my (now ex) closest friends and without anyone similarly close to me which helped me put the depth of my pain into perspective. Still feels so unfair. I think it always will.

OP posts:
Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/11/2023 20:39

StillAliveButImBarelyBreathing

gosh that’s a big question !
look it’s November and my worst month
life is still very challenging

but it’s been a year and I’ve
realised my triggers
have a calmer and slightly less reactive approach
I’ve started to build bridges with my ex
and I’ve really cut alot of people out or down
have a better grasp of handling my sons mental health issues

ive also exited a very toxic relationship - in fact he exited which is making me so angry and I have been struggling with the aftermath , and I’m processing it

I actually think I hate your ex friend more than him now
my therapist would have them both for mincemeat ! Toxic losers

Nicole1111 · 07/11/2023 20:53

StillAliveButImBarelyBreathing · 07/11/2023 20:31

@Nicole1111, that’s a good way to think of it. I’m so stuck and in pain that I can’t envisage the future at all. I’ve also read one or two threads where people are still not over a betrayal years later and I worry this will be me also.

@Acornsoup, you are so right, the work is excruciating. I guess some weight loss and a new adoring friendship circle has probably masked some of his issues for now but he’s still the same person. Thank you so much for your kind words.

@Newestname002, thank you, that really helped to hear that I come across as strong. Some days I resent that I have had to be so strong for such a long time, I’m tired but I have to keep going.

@Thisisworsethananticpated, has anything changed for you since you started therapy? I’m only a couple of months in and so far I feel worse although I am learning a lot about myself. Sometimes I just want to fast forward until I’m out the other side but I’m also acutely aware of the passing of time, triggered by the looming milestone birthday.

@MariaLuna, I’d not considered that before but yes, I’m seeing that what a cruel person she can be. This is helping to remind me that she was no great loss. I can’t wait to be able to say ‘fuck him’. I’m getting there i think.

@AliceOlive, that’s a really good point. She happily tortured me once they started getting close by ‘accidentally’ arse dialling me while they were together so I could hear them laughing and joking together, telling me how all her friends were asking about her new handsome man and everyone speculating about whether they were together, telling me he and I could never be friends (before he fell out with me) for x, y, z reasons, telling me how angry he was with me but refusing to hear a bad word about him, telling me I should go find some rich friends when my divorce money finally came through (10 years in the making and a lot of hard work on my part as I send repped the whole way through) etc. etc. Like I do far too often, I tried to see the best in her and didn’t recognise her cruelty for what it was. I imagine she’ll treat him better than she did me because I was a threat as a younger single woman and he’s potential boyfriend material.

@mushroomsinplantpots, yes, that’s true. I probably shouldn’t take the letter at face value. I have thought a lot about moving which is another layer to the trauma because this is my first house and he’s well aware of how happy I’ve been living here. It was a new area and a fresh start for me and my children which has been tainted by what’s happened. For a long time, I felt such pain having to pass her house and see his car in the driveway. There’s no prospect of moving anytime soon as the house is a doer upper which aren’t selling right now plus it quite quirky and niche so won’t appeal to many people. Thank you for reminding me that there’s life on the other side, it feels so impossibly far away right now.

@Pherian, I’ve never considered that he could be a narc but a few posts here have got me thinking. He’s the best covert narc going if so!

If it helps I was in a domestically abusive relationship in my early twenties. I then entered my next relationship without having done any work in between and while it wasn’t as bad as my previous relationship I was still being treated poorly, I was parenting him and at times there was abusive behaviour on his part. After I ended the relationship he said he was heartbroken and begged me to try again. I said no and within a couple of weeks he had moved on with someone he knew while we were together. I’ll never know if there was a cross over but I no longer care.
When that relationship ended I took a year out of dating completely. I had a little bit of therapy, I did work on my self esteem and I did work on my attachment style. After that year I dated for around 6 months before meeting my now husband and the father of my child, with who I have the healthiest, happiest relationship I’ve ever had.
In other words have faith. If you do the work there is every hope of happy healthy relationships in your future.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 07/11/2023 21:05

Nicole1111

nice update . I’m at where you were after #2
and I’ve also (reluctantly ) taken myself off and although a year is daunting it feels like a good idea

Pinkbonbon · 07/11/2023 22:19

Yeah he's just setting you up for a bit of narcissistic triangulation (playing you off against his partner). He'll be dropping little hints to her about how he isn't over you. Probably even mentioned writing to you. Wanting her to think.you are the one who got away.

Letter also serves to say "you were the baddy and you hurt poor little me but it's OK because my life is amazing now and I'm over it". Aye mate, cool. I believe you. It's just spite for telling him to leave. He's pissed he didn't get the last word.

I mean yeah its a nasty shock but honestly op it's also pretty funny that you ditched him a year ago and he's still butt-hurt about it. I think you might be catastrophizing a bit op. It sounds like you're making your world smaller thinking it'll keep you safe, in reality you are doing yourself more harm. Bad people exist. Sometimes we get hurt. But we shouldn't let it stop us from living.

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