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Never going to tell anyone in real life, want to say it here - I think I should leave him

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CreateAUsername3000 · 04/10/2023 15:19

NCed for this as don't want anyone to know it's me.
I've been with my husband for over 20 years, met in our early 20s, now early 40s.
We've got 2 boys, they are the absolute loves of my life, 6 and nearly 3.
DH and I have both got baggage - my mum died when I was young and dad abandoned us. His parents divorced when he was 11 and then his mum sent him to boarding school to punish him for being sad about it.
He suppresses his emotions, then very rarely - once every few years or so - he just loses it completely.
I'm more emotional and have a shouty night maybe fortnightly, getting frustration off my chest - but both of us have a firm rule of never in front of the kids.
We had a rough pandemic (like most people!) and got completely sick of each others faces. He was drinking too much and being fairly vile to me.
Money has often been an issue, he has low self esteem and really struggles with job applications, hates failing, hates being judged, hates networking... He is nowhere near earning enough to keep us on an even keel.
I had bad health after baby 2, auto immune condition and chronic fatigue, lost my income. Felt so poorly and couldn't understand why he wasn't stepping up to cover me.
We have been going to counselling and I felt like things were getting better - more affection, more closeness, more like we were on the same team.
But it's been a hideous week - kids are ill with colds and grumpy and not sleeping, poor dog is having an arthritis flare up and we are not sure if it's time to pts. I'm retraining in a challenging area so that finally we could have a decent household income, and I have homework due, and he's not supporting me at all. It came to head last night in cross words and a huff.
Got back from the vets with dog's new medication this morning and tried to clear the air. 6 yo at school, nearly 3 yo was playing with his toys and I put my hand on m husband's arm and said let's not be ratty with each other, life is short, I just need more support sometimes. He started arguing, saying it was my fault, I'm unreasonably demanding, and always blame him unfairly. I raised my voice then and something snapped behind his eyes and he came at me, shoved me across the room and pinned me on the sofa, hitting me and grabbing me. It went on for a minute maybe? I was pinned and couldn't do anything, just felt totally powerless and terrified.
Then the toddler was sobbing and that's when he did the worst thing - ran to the toddler and picked him up and said "he's my son, I'm keeping him". The poor child was reaching for me and screaming and husband was turning his shoulders so I couldn't get to my child - I was terrified he'd hurt him so had to wait a minute or so while our son screamed for me until he'd calmed down enough to give him to me and then I could comfort him.
After the toddler was napping I went down and he was sat there saying it's really important for us to understand what happened so that we can avoid it happening again. He's sorry and I provoked him beyond what he could stand but this isn't something to break up our family over.
I am sick to think of the trauma caused to our baby and I have no clue what to do. I'd like to think I can keep our family together but can I? Should I leave? I don't have any money or anywhere to go. The boys love their dad and he's been (mostly) good to us for a long time. I'm not perfect by a long shot. My heart keeps skipping out of my chest, like he's pinning me again. He's gone to the gym, the boys are at school and nursery. I can't tell anyone in real life. If anyone reads this far I'd be grateful for any thoughts or advice. x

OP posts:
OfcourseitsaNC · 06/10/2023 13:14

Thanks for the update @CreateAUsername3000

I'm so glad you've made a police report. Well done. That must have been hard to do, but you did it anyway.

I understand just how difficult it is to get someone to move out. My ex refused to go for months, as it was his home too. And financially, you need to be able to afford living in two separate places. I understand it isn't as easy as just saying "it's his problem and he needs to move out". I get it

Keep taking steps forward towards splitting for good and keep your little one and yourself safe as you do so. Sending you more hugs.

MariaVT65 · 06/10/2023 13:21

Please get out of there with your children Op, even if it’s temporary. Is there anyone you can stay with at all? I’d call women’s aid again to ask about your rights in this situation so you can then stay at your home with out your husband. He literally bruised you. Please don’t risk your safety. Get out now.

Soberfutures · 06/10/2023 13:31

He need to go ASAP. To a hotel or mates house. Put a claim in for universal credit as a single person. This is allowed if you are separated and in the same house. You have to explain Domestic violence and explain you are living separate lives. Don't do his dishes or washing etc. It his responsibility to sort a place for himself even if he says he can't afford it. He can be a lodger or houseshare. He doesn't deserve any more than that.
Once that line has been crossed it won't fix itself no matter how much counselling. He is already saying he did it as a reaction to your actions. What happens next time he doesn't like your actions? Death? Attacking the kids?

Acornsoup · 06/10/2023 13:35

IP you don't need to wait for anything and you aren't responsible for making sure his needs are met. When you are ready (see
Advice on WA website about safety) you can go/or get him to leave). If he gets worse or it happens again call the police straight away. You are doing the right thing for you and your DC Flowers

Bex5490 · 06/10/2023 19:10

Amazingly brave steps OP. Sending strength, support and admiration ❤️ x

Maplestars · 07/10/2023 13:43

I am not trying to scare you but around Christmas is also when you see some of those awful occasions where blokes decide that rather than endure a break up they'll just do in their entire families

op I also don’t want to be alarming, but Christmas can be an emotional and difficult time for everyone. This man is unstable and violent even when things are relatively calm.
his response after the attack, towards you, your relationship and your son are really unsettling. You already know he’ll physically try to ‘take’ your children and hurt them (emotionally) to hurt you. I wouldnt want to see if that can escalate

if you can get an injunction do, if you don’t feel you can please make sure you are ready to get yourself and the children to safety at a moments notice.
Well done for reporting it, that must have taken a lot of bravery

theduchessofspork · 07/10/2023 13:51

It’s great you are making some progress, well done.

I think it’s worth collecting all your joint financial info and seeing a solicitor to see how the assets would be split, and how you would arrange for him to leave if you needed to.

I would also see citizens advice to see what benefits you would be entitled to once you start your job and we’re he to move out.

Did women’s aid get back? If not give them a chase, they are busy.

Keep momentum going and explore all options

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