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Denis44 · 25/09/2023 21:50

I’ve been with my boyfriend for almost a year. We don’t live together, he lives in a council house and I have a mortgaged house. We both have children from previous relationships.
I keep having reservations about this relationship and keep asking myself whether this is the right person for me. I have been single for 4 years.
On the plus side he is great company, really emotionally supportive, good sense of humour, sex is ok, gets on with my kids and good role model, helpful, always steps in to clean if I’m busy with the kids, good looking, fit, attentive, available and overall keen to be with me, does some diy etc. He has a good relationship with everyone and people really like him, has good friends and people like his company as he is kind and generous and just likeable. His kids and my kids all love him as well and like his company. He works and gives a lot of his free time to help others.
My reservations are around the fact that it’s unlikely we could ever live together. He is on low income and would loose his benefits if he moved in with me and I just don’t see this happening. My salary just about covers me and the kids. He also says that at this stage he doesn’t think he could loose his house as would end up homeless if we didn’t work out. He is always skint. Don’t get me wrong he is generous with the money he has, but it means we can’t do very much unless I paid, which I sometimes do. He eats at mine a lot and recently I thought actually I need to plan meals differently as it’s becoming too expensive and he eats large portions or double even. He brings sometimes some small food items or leftovers from his home that we can use, but it still costs a lot. He sometimes cooks. He could improve his financial situation, but always finds reasons why not to go for something better and lacks the drive and confidence. He gives very little towards his kids’ maintenance and doesn’t seem to be overly bothered, or just doesn’t think it’s within his control.
Whereas I am under very intense pressure to provide for my kids, not just the basics but their wants and desires, he is ok with going somewhere with us, but his kids missing out as he can only pay for himself.
I am now looking into getting extra income because of cost of living. He asks when he can come to mine and I’m just thinking it’s very much like back to being married rather than the fun of going on dates and doing nice things just as adults other than tv and sofa. It’s perhaps not his fault, but that’s the main thing on offer. What he doesn’t get is normally I don’t just lie on the sofa in the evenings. I work till I go to bed or I do laundry or I book a babysitter and see friends occasionally. So I don’t really want to spend several evenings a week planning and cooking meals and lying on the sofa as I’m getting behind with work and it’s getting boring already.
What also bothers me is that some of his views are not compatible with mine. I find myself feeling irritated and thinking that he should educate himself instead of believing a random person on Facebook.
At times I feel a massive amount of love for him, but then other times I think I need to end it. I don’t want to loose him on one hand, but then not sure how can this work long term. Or am I just being a perfectionist? I did a lot of online dating and he was by far the most keen and loving guy. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts.

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momtoboys · 26/09/2023 22:42

I'll say it - I could never go for a skint man who didn't seem to care about improving his lot.

FedUpWithEverything123 · 26/09/2023 23:21

If he earned more would it make him ineligible for benefits and/or council house OP?

LastHives · 27/09/2023 00:02

Time to move on. You have identified too many reasons that make you a bad match. You sound ambitious, hard working and sensible. He is none of these. You deserve better.

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 08:16

FedUpWithEverything123 · 26/09/2023 23:21

If he earned more would it make him ineligible for benefits and/or council house OP?

Yes to benefits, but I think he can stay in the house regardless. So this came up that even if he works full time in a job, he might not have much more because of it. That’s frustrating but you get sickness pay, paid leave, pension contributions which he doesn’t have.

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Denis44 · 27/09/2023 08:16

LastHives · 27/09/2023 00:02

Time to move on. You have identified too many reasons that make you a bad match. You sound ambitious, hard working and sensible. He is none of these. You deserve better.

Thanks

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Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 08:45

Ive had this OP eons ago. He used to come to mine to eat without bringing anything, was happy to stay in a low paid job and not improving his finances. He was a leech and a chancer. Owt for nowt as we say in yorkshire. I also paid for holidays, day trips etc. I never had anything. Just because someone is 'nice' doesnt mean your compatible. Youre settling OP. Youll never have anything and the resentment will get worse. I think you already know what you need to do but want it confirming. You dont just take on OH and him dwindling your finances but you also take on his kids financially when he sees them. Youll be paying for him and his kids.
Personally id let him go.

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 08:47

Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 08:45

Ive had this OP eons ago. He used to come to mine to eat without bringing anything, was happy to stay in a low paid job and not improving his finances. He was a leech and a chancer. Owt for nowt as we say in yorkshire. I also paid for holidays, day trips etc. I never had anything. Just because someone is 'nice' doesnt mean your compatible. Youre settling OP. Youll never have anything and the resentment will get worse. I think you already know what you need to do but want it confirming. You dont just take on OH and him dwindling your finances but you also take on his kids financially when he sees them. Youll be paying for him and his kids.
Personally id let him go.

Thanks for this. It does sound very similar. Did you meet someone better? How did you break up and after how long?

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Denis44 · 27/09/2023 08:50

He is convincing when he talks with things like there is more to life than money, it’s good for his mental health what he is doing now etc. And he is very generous when he has any money. But it is a different lifestyle in a way. He’d be happy just sitting at home and would just eat what I put in front of him. Aaargh I still think can I just somehow make it more casual or something or try and set boundaries more… or I wish we could ne friends instead as I do love him and deeply care about him.

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Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 09:04

@Denis44 tbh i didnt want to meet anyone else but i did, after i had little time to myself. I was on my own for over a year. I broke it off..

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 09:09

Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 09:04

@Denis44 tbh i didnt want to meet anyone else but i did, after i had little time to myself. I was on my own for over a year. I broke it off..

That’s great. Did he take it well and did you tell him the reasons? I think my kids would be really sad not to see him again and I’d be sad as well as we do have really good times together 😢

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Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 09:11

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 08:50

He is convincing when he talks with things like there is more to life than money, it’s good for his mental health what he is doing now etc. And he is very generous when he has any money. But it is a different lifestyle in a way. He’d be happy just sitting at home and would just eat what I put in front of him. Aaargh I still think can I just somehow make it more casual or something or try and set boundaries more… or I wish we could ne friends instead as I do love him and deeply care about him.

Lol is it my ex? 🤣
He used to say theres more to life than money...that was excuse for him to do nothing about his situation and to make me look like i loved money too much...it was laziness on his behalf...he will make do because hes happy staying as he is...oc he is...youre paying for him and his kids in essence. He can get another job outside the home and do part time what hes still doing if it's good for his mental health..theres ways around it .
My ex used to wolf down food id made, i got resentful real quick, no financial help food wise, expected it..and tbh he would always turn up near lunch time. Freeloader.
He was a decent bloke but a crap boyfriend. I wouldn't have done FWB there was too much a connection beforehand...i think a FWB can turn into relationship but not other way around. OP believe me, youll never have anything with him and youll exhaust your resources. Youll regret it if he walks down the line because youve given too much. Id walk again tomorrow if i had same thing again.

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 09:20

It could be 🤣 did you stay in touch at all? I was thinking just friends rather than FWB. But he told me already that it wouldn’t work as I’m his all world and he’d be devastated. I was just thinking that he probably thinks that there are no issues for me as I stopped raising anything. As soon as I raise issues he goes into such low mood, has been tearful before very quickly and goes into feeling sorry for himself that he wasted time before and not built his life properly etc. But it doesn’t translate to any problem solving or planning forward. He has done some changes, but is very reluctant. People have given him ideas for his business, but he just doesn’t implement anything. Well it’s ok that it’s ok for his mental health, but then I don’t have time to exercise, have coffees with friends and do nothing and even thinking about taking on more work while he is looking after himself and his mental health. I think I am becoming resentful

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PaminaMozart · 27/09/2023 09:31

As soon as I raise issues he goes into such low mood, has been tearful before very quickly and goes into feeling sorry for himself that he wasted time before and not built his life properly etc. But it doesn’t translate to any problem solving or planning forward. He has done some changes, but is very reluctant. People have given him ideas for his business, but he just doesn’t implement anything. Well it’s ok that it’s ok for his mental health, but then I don’t have time to exercise, have coffees with friends and do nothing and even thinking about taking on more work while he is looking after himself and his mental health. I think I am becoming resentful...

Your words, OP. Read them again. Your answer is right in front of you!

Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 09:32

@Denis44 lol i think hes same as my ex..to a tee. He did all of that. I didn't stay in touch, i needed to heal and space to grieve, having him around even as friends would have hindered my recovery. I went NC.
when i tried to talk about our situation etc he would get the sad face on puppy dog eyes ...i realise now that was just so i felt sorry for him and stopped going on about it, oc he wanted the status quo to remain. He also never improved his situation even with advice. He was happy bumbling along surviving, but im different. I think youre not compatible, it will hold you back and resentment will get worse. Yes, its all about him isnt it? Him doing what's good for his mental health but at the detriment to yours?
I would finish the relationship OP , theres no way he will change as hes happy doing what he does...why change?. Being a decent guy doesnt always mean a decent relationship xx

TheShellBeach · 27/09/2023 09:34

It just sounds like you'll gradually get more and more resentful about him as time goes on.

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 09:52

interestingly he has just been offered some paid shifts. He is like ‘I’ll do a few, but really wouldn’t like to do it full time’. It actually made me laugh. Just before Xmas when I’m pulling my hair out thinking how I’ll manage, he is so chilled. He just wrote ‘I’m not motivated by money, I’m not expecting to be well off’
ok…

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notapizzaeater · 27/09/2023 09:57

He doesn't have to be motivated by money as you and his ex are enabling him.

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 10:20

I said to him that I’m struggling with paying for everything and seeing how it can continue and he didn’t really offer any solutions.. So he told me that he is cutting down a lot and living really frugally and still trying to get his situation better. That he is focused on Xmas and trying not to let it bother him too much and he can only do what he can do.
happy to come to mine and join in with family life and stay over.
I’m tempted to reply that it’s not working for me or that I also need frugally and can’t afford him coming over. Like I get it what he is saying, but then he has to realise that it’s putting pressure on me to fill in the gaps? And I can’t

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Denis44 · 27/09/2023 10:25

I think perhaps he thinks I’m ok because my salary is ok? But I’m paying tax overpayments back, have a mortgage and a massive amount of expenses. I also don’t get any benefits and have v little child support. I know I shouldn’t even have to explain, like is an adult man with no responsibilities

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Olika · 27/09/2023 10:33

I think you should walk out of this relationship. This man seems to be fine with the way he lives and it's not going to change. You have yourself and your kids to think of and to take care of, not him and his kids too. It's just not worth it. Go out there and meet a man who enhances your life, who has similar mentality about things and with whom you can create something meaningful. Smile

SpringGreensPreens · 27/09/2023 12:23

notapizzaeater · 27/09/2023 09:57

He doesn't have to be motivated by money as you and his ex are enabling him.

Yes and he’s on benefits and with a council house - nice to have the choice not to work!

Loubelle70 · 27/09/2023 12:51

He said he doesnt want full time and been offered more shifts but doesn't want a lot of shifts?!!! No no no. He is comfortable doing minimal and claiming maximum from you. I have honestly had this before, coming xmas where they know food will be on table because you have kids..not contributing...hes actually a tight wad....you say hes generous when he has it? But he gives with one hand and takes a lot of your stuff with the other. I bet it costs you way more for him than it does with his 'generosity'. Hes at a win win. Personally, id get rid. Youre doing what i did, loved him, made excuses (hes good guy, generous when got it etc)...but he is siphoning off your money and good will through being a sponger tbh.

PaminaMozart · 27/09/2023 14:49

What @Loubelle70 said...

And, every single £££ you spend on him is money you could invest in your children and their future!

Denis44 · 27/09/2023 16:00

That’s all true ladies! I texted him about how I feel under pressure to work even more and that I think I need to focus on work this week and my own mental health and he replied that he is there for me if he can help in any way, and to just take it easy etc. He is full of support always, but ultimately you can’t tell someone that you have no money for food and then offer ‘support’. Like I can’t exactly ask him to go shopping, plan meals and cook this week, when I know he is skint right… aaargh so frustrating

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Bumblebeestiltskin · 27/09/2023 16:02

"Sex is OK". That in itself would be enough for me to end the relationship, never mind the rest!

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