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Advice about new relationship

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Denis44 · 25/09/2023 21:50

I’ve been with my boyfriend for almost a year. We don’t live together, he lives in a council house and I have a mortgaged house. We both have children from previous relationships.
I keep having reservations about this relationship and keep asking myself whether this is the right person for me. I have been single for 4 years.
On the plus side he is great company, really emotionally supportive, good sense of humour, sex is ok, gets on with my kids and good role model, helpful, always steps in to clean if I’m busy with the kids, good looking, fit, attentive, available and overall keen to be with me, does some diy etc. He has a good relationship with everyone and people really like him, has good friends and people like his company as he is kind and generous and just likeable. His kids and my kids all love him as well and like his company. He works and gives a lot of his free time to help others.
My reservations are around the fact that it’s unlikely we could ever live together. He is on low income and would loose his benefits if he moved in with me and I just don’t see this happening. My salary just about covers me and the kids. He also says that at this stage he doesn’t think he could loose his house as would end up homeless if we didn’t work out. He is always skint. Don’t get me wrong he is generous with the money he has, but it means we can’t do very much unless I paid, which I sometimes do. He eats at mine a lot and recently I thought actually I need to plan meals differently as it’s becoming too expensive and he eats large portions or double even. He brings sometimes some small food items or leftovers from his home that we can use, but it still costs a lot. He sometimes cooks. He could improve his financial situation, but always finds reasons why not to go for something better and lacks the drive and confidence. He gives very little towards his kids’ maintenance and doesn’t seem to be overly bothered, or just doesn’t think it’s within his control.
Whereas I am under very intense pressure to provide for my kids, not just the basics but their wants and desires, he is ok with going somewhere with us, but his kids missing out as he can only pay for himself.
I am now looking into getting extra income because of cost of living. He asks when he can come to mine and I’m just thinking it’s very much like back to being married rather than the fun of going on dates and doing nice things just as adults other than tv and sofa. It’s perhaps not his fault, but that’s the main thing on offer. What he doesn’t get is normally I don’t just lie on the sofa in the evenings. I work till I go to bed or I do laundry or I book a babysitter and see friends occasionally. So I don’t really want to spend several evenings a week planning and cooking meals and lying on the sofa as I’m getting behind with work and it’s getting boring already.
What also bothers me is that some of his views are not compatible with mine. I find myself feeling irritated and thinking that he should educate himself instead of believing a random person on Facebook.
At times I feel a massive amount of love for him, but then other times I think I need to end it. I don’t want to loose him on one hand, but then not sure how can this work long term. Or am I just being a perfectionist? I did a lot of online dating and he was by far the most keen and loving guy. I’d love to hear people’s thoughts.

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junebirthdaygirl · 26/09/2023 15:48

Even though he has given up gambling and drinking he is still not out of that mentality...a dry drunk it's sometimes referred to. So he has not grown up, taken responsibility and learnt to stand on his own two feet. He is happy to feed off you and is lacking ambition. Often these guys are the nicest in the world and easy to like but not easy to live with or rely on. I think he will continue to drive you mad as your life goals are miles apart. Yours are fine, by the way. Let him off.

Ladyj84 · 26/09/2023 15:51

Sorry but not for me, you can be a nice guy but I have standards and he may not want to move in but he sure is making the most of you. Get rid enjoy life and see what's around the corner

CurlewKate · 26/09/2023 15:55

He's not bothered about contributing fairly to his own children? Dump.

TheShellBeach · 26/09/2023 15:58

Okay, so the sex is just "okay".
That's enough to end it.

Add in the fact that he doesn't pay much towards his children, and he's sounding even less attractive.

Time to bin this one off.

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 16:16

junebirthdaygirl · 26/09/2023 15:48

Even though he has given up gambling and drinking he is still not out of that mentality...a dry drunk it's sometimes referred to. So he has not grown up, taken responsibility and learnt to stand on his own two feet. He is happy to feed off you and is lacking ambition. Often these guys are the nicest in the world and easy to like but not easy to live with or rely on. I think he will continue to drive you mad as your life goals are miles apart. Yours are fine, by the way. Let him off.

Thank you, not heard of it before, but yes I think he is upset that he wasted a lot of money and time on addictions and is focused on making himself better. It’s honestly great that he is, but while he finding time on helping others, keeping fit etc., his ex is taking all the responsibility for his kids and he is just floating around.

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category12 · 26/09/2023 16:22

Don't settle for this guy because you don't like being single or dating has been tough.

It's not enough to be the best of a bad bunch - have a bit more ambition for yourself in man department, OP.

Better to be single and open to meeting someone new, than settling for someone where you have to do the heavy lifting financially and mentally, where the sex is mediocre, and there's no real future. If he does training, if he then gets a job in that field, maybe he'll make a better wage. If he doesn't relapse into drinking or gambling again and drag you down with him, which is always a possibility.

If you find it a drag now, it'll only get worse to always be the one taking the initiative.

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 16:24

TheShellBeach · 26/09/2023 15:58

Okay, so the sex is just "okay".
That's enough to end it.

Add in the fact that he doesn't pay much towards his children, and he's sounding even less attractive.

Time to bin this one off.

He really tries to please, but I’m a tricky customer probably 🤣 it’s not bad actually, I’m not sure what he could do to improve it.
i agree about the kids. He can say that they don’t need anything, but they’ve had a quite limited life, because of him. They’ve not been to many places, abroad once, never done an lot of activities that people do like caravans, camping. are very fussy with food, because have had a very limited exposure to different foods, they are anxious about food you could say. They’ve had very little extracurricular activities, one of them has very low aspirations. Still higher than their dad’s though 🤣 they have good clothes and things like consoles, but that’s about it. I think most of us would want a bit more for their kids. And I get it if you can’t improve your situation because of illness or disability, but he is a very able, very skilled guy. A lot of it is down to upbringing and personal choices. I’m really sad actually. Really wish it was all easier

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ImAStallionBaby · 26/09/2023 16:25

Just had another thought. He's probably not taking steps to earn more, as any excess money could throw him straight back into his addictions.
Please bin him!

Rockschooldropout · 26/09/2023 16:27

Trust your Instincts- you don’t need a cocklodger

TerribleDogMother · 26/09/2023 16:44

Ew. He's a man-child and edging towards cocklodger-y.

Just ick all the way around.

You're fundamentally incompatible.

Get rid.

Just tell him that its not really working for you and get on with your life.

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 17:58

So not even one person thinks I should give him a chance and see how it develops?

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category12 · 26/09/2023 18:02

If a friend was asking you and had told you all this (and you really believed she wanted an honest answer), what would you say?

CurlewKate · 26/09/2023 18:05

Have you any idea what his kids' mother thinks about his parenting?

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 18:10

category12 · 26/09/2023 18:02

If a friend was asking you and had told you all this (and you really believed she wanted an honest answer), what would you say?

Good question. Stop extending yourself and be clear with him. Don’t pay for his kids. Focus on saving, as you have none. You can go out with friends and don’t need to include him if he is skint. He is a lovely guy and I get that, so if you want it to work, then yeah give him a bit more time but be clear with him as to what you expect from him. Things might then happen organically maybe? He might step up, or it might just fizzle out more organically? Don’t hide your feelings and be honest. But the outcome is likely to be still the same as it’s boring doing nothing.
My friends say that he is lovely, but also don’t have to be with him just because he is nice. They say he is a nice and a genuine guy and we work great together. Some friends hear me complain and say that I’m gorgeous (I’m not) and deserve the world. Some understand why I have the ick and also would be put off. Older friends tend to say it’s really not much choice out there, so if I found a half decent guy who is great with my kids, I should stick with him. My mum loves him. My sister, everyone thinks he is great.

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category12 · 26/09/2023 18:17

Older friends tend to say it’s really not much choice out there, so if I found a half decent guy who is great with my kids, I should stick with him
Yuk, I wouldn't listen to those ones. Makes me wonder what they've settled for.

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 18:20

His ex seems to be accepting that he doesn’t contribute much and seems grateful when he sends some money, but doesn’t put pressure on him. So if he gives 40-70 a month for two kids, she seems ok with it.
She gets her new partner to pay for them more, which apparently he does. So this new guy has taken them places. The new guy also has his own children, but doesn’t contribute much for them. So it’s a very weird dynamic! The kids then comment how mum’s partner is great and my boyfriend is not impressed. It just feels that there are guys and to some extent my boyfriend is like that as well that they just pay for whatever child is in front of them, to maybe impress their mum, rather than think about their own kids? My boyfriend likes to treat my kids at times with things I wouldn’t want to spend on normally like going to mc Donald’s or vending machines and I can’t help but think, why don’t you save and invite me on a date instead.

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Therealjudgejudy · 26/09/2023 18:21

Your standards are on the floor. Seriously, you have kids!

Set an example. God grief. I actually despair for some kids these days what their parenrs willingly expose them to.

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 18:23

category12 · 26/09/2023 18:17

Older friends tend to say it’s really not much choice out there, so if I found a half decent guy who is great with my kids, I should stick with him
Yuk, I wouldn't listen to those ones. Makes me wonder what they've settled for.

Good point.
one is online dating utter time wasters and the other one is in a long term relationship but deeply unhappy most if the time

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Denis44 · 26/09/2023 18:28

Therealjudgejudy · 26/09/2023 18:21

Your standards are on the floor. Seriously, you have kids!

Set an example. God grief. I actually despair for some kids these days what their parenrs willingly expose them to.

My kids really love him. He gives them a lot of attention, plays with them, fixes things for them and teaches them a lot of practical skills. They also see him clean and do chores and being kind to me. In terms of money they witness us having conversations where I offer to pay and then he says no he will pay and then I say , it’s ok you’ve just told me you have no money so it’s fine..
So I think the kids are benefitting somewhat as when he is around I actually have a bit more time for them for instance when he sometimes cooks or when he cleans which is every time he is here, he will do some cleaning. You could argue though that the fact he has no money is going to affect the kids as when I subsidise him or say it’s ok for him not to pay, it then goes from our family’s budget.
But they will be very sad if we break up as they always ask when is he coming and absolutely love him 😢

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category12 · 26/09/2023 18:39

Everyone else might love him, but I'm not sure you do, really? You find him a bit boring and irritating and passive.

I think that will get worse, rather than better.

I think he feels safe (although I'd argue he isn't in terms of possible relapse) and you're under familial/social pressure to have someone. I can see he's got his good points, but is it enough?

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 18:48

category12 · 26/09/2023 18:39

Everyone else might love him, but I'm not sure you do, really? You find him a bit boring and irritating and passive.

I think that will get worse, rather than better.

I think he feels safe (although I'd argue he isn't in terms of possible relapse) and you're under familial/social pressure to have someone. I can see he's got his good points, but is it enough?

Thanks 🙏 I think I wish I had more love for him and that my feelings were stronger. They are a bit up and down.
I wish the situation was a bit different and I didn’t have to have these concerns.
yep, there are those reasons as well a man can fix things, don’t have to say I’m just a single mum but also have a boyfriend as if this was some kind of a status thing 🤣
you’re right it’s not enough probably, sadly.

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Greengrassohla · 26/09/2023 21:49

You’ve described the sex as ‘ok’ and ‘not bad’ and ‘he really tries to please’. Jesus Christ, find someone who gives you the fanny gallops!

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 21:51

Greengrassohla · 26/09/2023 21:49

You’ve described the sex as ‘ok’ and ‘not bad’ and ‘he really tries to please’. Jesus Christ, find someone who gives you the fanny gallops!

Lol my ex did, but that’s the only thing he did well tbh 🤣 this made me laugh so much though, thanks for that 🤣🤣

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INeedAnotherName · 26/09/2023 22:06

Denis44 · 26/09/2023 17:58

So not even one person thinks I should give him a chance and see how it develops?

No. He's sponging off you for his dinner and to pay for his kids. If he didn't have a council house he would have done the full cocklodger and moved in.

He has his own business and does some freelance work,
If he can't afford to pay for his kids, or feed them, then he can't afford to be self employed. He needs a proper job which won't happen while you are giving him money. He's grifting you.

Rockschooldropout · 26/09/2023 22:25

If he’s not making any money from his self employment- he needs to look for other work , sorry but he sounds like he has the get up and go of a table mat