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Partner said: ‘I know which side my bread is buttered on’

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Beelips · 14/09/2023 20:59

So tonight my partner and I (3-year relationship) were having a lighthearted chat and within a certain context he said jokingly: ‘I always knew I’d find myself a nice certain nationality girl’. I said: ’Yes, you’ve done well, they are the best’. To which he responded: ‘Trust me, I know, I know. I know which side my bread is buttered on’.

Now… English is not my first language so asking for others’ opinions as it’s the second time he’s used this phrase in relation to our relationship.

I don’t know if I’m misunderstanding the nuances of this saying but I don’t take it as a compliment, more of a ‘I know what’s to my advantage’, rather than saying something like (what I’d rather hear): ‘Yes, I’m so lucky, you are the best’, or similar.

Am I overthinking? (I didn’t say anything to him obviously).

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Superfood · 14/09/2023 21:56

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/09/2023 21:05

I'd be more concerned that he's with you because you are a stereotype to him.

Yes, this.

Dery · 14/09/2023 21:56

It’s a compliment. Another here who is intrigued to know your nationality!

Beelips · 14/09/2023 21:56

MuggleMe · 14/09/2023 21:02

It's quite self satisfied and smug, he's made a good choice. He's thinking of himself rather than you.

That’s possibly how I was interpreting it…

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Superfood · 14/09/2023 21:57

Beelips · 14/09/2023 21:56

That’s possibly how I was interpreting it…

You are interchangeable with other women of whatever ethnicity/ nationality it is that he fetishises.

QueenCamilla · 14/09/2023 21:58

I'd only equate this with a material gain or monetary benefit so I don't think he's using the phrase correctly.

For example : I wouldn't swear at my boss as I know which side my bread is buttered on (where my money is coming from).

MisschiefMaker · 14/09/2023 21:58

It's a compliment. Don't overthink it.

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 14/09/2023 22:00

He knows he's lucky....that's how he meant it.

donquixotedelamancha · 14/09/2023 22:02

Superfood · 14/09/2023 21:57

You are interchangeable with other women of whatever ethnicity/ nationality it is that he fetishises.

I think people who do this (deliberately puts the worst possible spin on something when an OP is being paranoid) are just nasty.

The whole conversation is just a normal, jokey compliment @Beelips.

Beelips · 14/09/2023 22:04

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/09/2023 21:05

I'd be more concerned that he's with you because you are a stereotype to him.

I am not too worried about this from knowing him and his dating history. It was said in a context where we were chatting lightheartedly about another couple where the guy said a similar thing about his wife: ‘I always knew I was different and would not comply’ (he married out of religion).

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Indiacalling · 14/09/2023 22:04

it does sound a bit like he has a stereotype in mind for women of your nationality, which he associates with being a positive thing for him.

on the other hand, I can also see that he means he knows what side his bread is buttered on because he has lucked out with you (you say women from your nationality are the best and he is agreeing; he knows he is with someone who is the best - meaning both you and his idea of your nationality which links to this).

I think he means it that he has done well and he knows it.

Beelips · 14/09/2023 22:05

Wow, thank you everyone for your views, I really appreciate them. Seems that the majority think the comment benign or even complimentary. I shall take it as such 🙂

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QueenCamilla · 14/09/2023 22:07

The conception of this idiom “Know which side your bread is buttered,” came from a time where people needed to know exactly where their interests lie and who to support, mainly if their next meal depended on it. Source: theidioms.com

⬆️ Origins of the idiom.
Probably used in a wider sense these days meaning to be aware to do/not do something to one's own benefit.
I still see it in a more financial context though.

know on which side bread is buttered

know on which side bread is buttered meaning origin example sentence history

https://www.theidioms.com/know-on-which-side-bread-is-buttered/

Berlinlover · 14/09/2023 22:08

Where are you from OP?

inamarina · 14/09/2023 22:08

Superfood · 14/09/2023 21:57

You are interchangeable with other women of whatever ethnicity/ nationality it is that he fetishises.

Oh, come on, you don’t even know their relationship.
My husband says similar things occasionally, yet I never felt interchangeable in all those years we’ve been together.

eastiseastwestiswest · 14/09/2023 22:09

It means he knows he's done well by being with you. It's a compliment. There's no other way to interpret it unless you don't really understand the phrase.

inamarina · 14/09/2023 22:10

donquixotedelamancha · 14/09/2023 22:02

I think people who do this (deliberately puts the worst possible spin on something when an OP is being paranoid) are just nasty.

The whole conversation is just a normal, jokey compliment @Beelips.

Agree.

Beelips · 14/09/2023 22:11

Dancesaideveryone · 14/09/2023 21:15

Ot means he knows he's lucky. That he's 'punching' above his level with you.

It's a compliment not delivered brilliantly.

Do you like him? Does he treat you well?

Great questions…. Yes, I like him. Most of the time. And yes, he treats me well…
Sometimes things do creep up that make me think though. Sorry, I don’t want to digress from the thread topic (although I guess it’s all interlinked and important for context).

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ChocolateCakeOverspill · 14/09/2023 22:11

It’s a compliment, he means he knows he’s lucky to have you

Bruisername · 14/09/2023 22:12

If I heard someone say that in this context I would assume he didn’t really understand it as it doesn’t sound right.

Beelips · 14/09/2023 22:13

littleripper · 14/09/2023 21:15

It means that he knows what to say or how to behaviour to stay in your good books! It's funny and nice!

Thank you.

I agree. And I may be crazy but I don’t necessarily take it as good thing. Him having to try to please me… if that makes sense?

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Itisadifficulttime · 14/09/2023 22:13

Bruisername · 14/09/2023 22:12

If I heard someone say that in this context I would assume he didn’t really understand it as it doesn’t sound right.

This.

And to me, from your OP, it doesn't cone across as a compliment.

TotalOverhaul · 14/09/2023 22:14

It means he knows he has the best life with you and never thinks someone else would be any better.

QS90 · 14/09/2023 22:15

Yes a compliment... with an edge of good-natured cheekiness I'd say. There is an element of "it's what's best for me and I get something out of it" with the expression imo. But that makes it a joke of familiarity - I very much doubt he'd say it if he really was just being mercenary.

Itisadifficulttime · 14/09/2023 22:16

Is he British? If he is, he definitely knows the right context in which to use that phrase. The scenario you described is not the right context.

Beelips · 14/09/2023 22:16

Karmakarmeleon · 14/09/2023 21:38

Do you mind me asking what nationality you are, just being nosying as to which one is special 😅
Agree with the majority, I don’t think he meant anything negative

Hehe, I want to stay as anonymous as possible but it’s a small Eastern European country. Not sure it’s more special than others 🙂.

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