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Is he the problem and if he is, what can I do to help our relationship

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uptomuch · 26/08/2023 16:27

TLDR - DH an absolute arse when we argue but perfect in all other areas. Should I put up with it?

We've been together for three years. Had a bumpy start but got ourselves sorted. Looking back, I think the foundations were laid then around the way we argue and now we can't undo it and I'm worried that I am staying in a really unhealthy relationship.

About 80% of the time, we have a great relationship. We are supportive of one another, respectful, good partnership and get on well.
However, if we have an argument, it goes down hill, and fast!
Today was the latest example. Did all the back to school stuff, was quite a nice day (no kids with us) and popped by McDonalds drive thru on the way home. Driving out, DH put his foot on the brake and a load of chips ended up on the floor. I said “FFS” (loudly) as was annoyed by the mess and made an ill judged poke at him for braking when he did (obviously braking can’t be helped). Really wasn’t anything major and was simply a reaction to a situation but still, wasn’t his fault and so not fair of me. Anyway, I asked him to pull over so I could clean up and he said no. He said he was driving and he would make the decisions and that it was my fault for “throwing” the chips on the floor. This then escalated beyond all recognition with him shouting that he was right about everything (yes - literally). Told me that I had “started it” by shouting at him and told me it was completely my fault and I should apologise and that he would keep shouting until I did.

So in and of itself, that’s a stupid argument where had I just said sorry and cleared up it would have gone away. Problem is, he gets so verbally aggressive and so shouty and dominant and entirely unwilling to accept that there would be another way of looking at things and it’s all so QUICK that I start to cry. And then I get told things like I’m pathetic and that I need to stop “whimpering”. And I KNOW this isn’t ok.
The only reason I am crying is because I have had my voice taken from me and I am now completely overwhelmed.
I genuinely don’t know if I need to change some of my behaviour because I’m
nitpicking or if he is the one who is unreasonable.
All our arguments are like this. They start off over tiny, inconsequential things, escalate to boiling point very quickly and then I get dominated and cry. BUT (importantly) most of the arguments are started by me.

I suppose I need to know if there is anything I can change and that it is reasonable for me to change or if it is just a bad idea to be in this relationship.

And to the LTB tribe - I hear you. But what I am genuinely interested in is whether there is an alternative way for me to manage these outbursts to support some more continuous harmony!

OP posts:
Alcemeg · 26/08/2023 20:43

BUT (importantly) most of the arguments are started by me.
This rang alarm bells with me, OP, because I was once married for many years to a similar man. Arguments rapidly escalated out of control and combusted spectacularly. I always felt it was all my fault, because that's how he played it somehow (long ago, I can't quite remember the exact tactics!). I'd be the one in tears, and I'd always be the one to apologise. I was never quite sure what was going on, I only knew that I dreaded conflict because it could get very bad very quickly and there seemed nothing I could do to stop it.

I think you should take a long hard look at who/what is actually causing these distressing crises, and try to look at it all through the lens of "he is an adult in control of his emotions" instead of what you said about him being unable to help himself.

Did you, like me, grow up in a household where you tiptoed round male volatility?

uptomuch · 26/08/2023 20:48

@Fizzology

Yes. That is a normal way to deal with that situation. And 9 times out of 10, that is what we would do.
If I hadn't pushed the issue after he had made the "I'm driving I'm not pulling over" because I was so fired up at his twattish arrogance, he would have pulled the car over in the next few minutes because he would have seen it was an awkward mess and probably wouldn't have helped to clear up but would have at least moved on straight afterwards and not lingered over the issue. To avoid any confusion on anyone's part I KNOW HIS RESPONSE IS ABUSIVE AND NOT OK.
I'm a lingerer and a pusher and if I feel like I've been wronged I want justice. And he gets pissed off and yells.

OP posts:
uptomuch · 26/08/2023 20:54

@meadowflower2023 quick! Runaway!

(But seriously, even if we are both being stupid, I appreciate the solidarity!)

And to answer @alcemeg yes - they are started by me. He is a placid man until he is pushed. And the more arguments I have started, the more dominant he has become in his responses.

OP posts:
PickAChew · 27/08/2023 00:20

No glee, here. Sadness, if anything.

ThisWormHasTurned · 27/08/2023 07:47

Here’s what I did - I tried everything - challenging the bad behaviour when it happened, after it happened. I tried not aggravating him - I ended up treading on eggshells. It hadn’t started like this..I didn’t really see it until after we were married.
Over time, it got worse. When I had a significant accident, came home at 1am after hours in A&E in plaster/on crutches, he complained about having to do everything around the house!
In the end, I did LTB. That’s the only way you can ever really win with a man like this is to leave.

Alcemeg · 27/08/2023 14:26

uptomuch · 26/08/2023 20:54

@meadowflower2023 quick! Runaway!

(But seriously, even if we are both being stupid, I appreciate the solidarity!)

And to answer @alcemeg yes - they are started by me. He is a placid man until he is pushed. And the more arguments I have started, the more dominant he has become in his responses.

So it sounds as though you are "two bulls on a bridge" 😊
... neither of you giving the other an inch.

In which case, you might as well learn to enjoy the conflict!

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