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I have to stop my DC seeing a Grandparent they adore, and I feel horrendous

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ADHDBrainFood · 04/08/2023 20:00

I’m a single parent to a 9yo DC who has ADHD among other things.

Food is a big sticking point for us. DC does not feel the need to eat, they like most foods and don’t have many foods they dislike they just will not eat enough of the mains to get sweet things.

DC has physically lost weight due to refusal to eat so we’re working with a dietician specialist in Eating Disorders with Autism and ADHD whose helping with portion sizes (building up to bigger/correct size). One of the things she’s advised in DCs case is to not offer fruit, chocolate or sweets in the hour before they’re due to eat to hopefully stimulate them to eat. It’s not a reward it’s literally so they eat. If they want sweets or crisps or pudding an hour after they’ve eaten that’s when we offer it.

It was working. DC knew the new rules and was starting to put weight on, I have to be strict about it as I am often tempted myself to have a biscuit or small snack before eating but if DC saw me eating anything like that they’d ask and meltdown to have it. The school and DCs scout group got behind the new rules and really helped. They even started choosing their after meal snack and would set timers on their tablet and/or the alexa we have to know when they could have the snack. They went from eating 1 mouthful of food to eating 3/4s or more (and remember we’re building up to a proper portion for their age at their pace so this is amazing). They were starting to help me choose the meals they wanted to eat and we’d got to a place of positive association with food, we were so close to being discharged!

Last week my parent popped around to see DC. I was called to a meeting at work, and while it wasn’t urgent my parent said they’d take DC out. I reminded them of the rule, and that the meeting would only be an hour and I had food in the oven “don’t worry it’s fine” said my parent and off they went.

Less than 10 minutes later theres pictures on Facebook of DC eating icecream and popcorn.

When I asked my parent about it they just said “I’m sorry I forgot, DC asked for Icecream and I was getting one for myself, I don’t see the harm”.

And now DCs back to refusing to eat. We’ve been set back months and we’re at a crucial time in terms of puberty as we do not need an Eating Disorder on top of DCs SN and puberty.

Dietitian is helping again, but if DC loses too much weight or refuses to eat school have said they will have to say they cannot meet needs on the EHCP, and then I could lose my job. I'm lucky that they're aware I have no holiday childcare so don't usually invite me to meetings in holidays - this wasn't actually urgent it was about a new process, but my manager did say I could of left it.

All over a meeting that my parent encouraged me to do. It’s the final straw really, my parent is constantly undermining me, telling me DC is fine and that I need to chill out about things. I am done. DC adores them, but I am not putting them through this again. Everytime I think I'm making progress with DC my parent comes along and undermines me, tells me to force them to eat everything on their plate or it's what grandparents do - be a bit naughty and my grandparents did it to me - my grandparents always referred back to the parent(s) if my mum or dad said no then we didn't get it. It feels almost like it was delibrate by this parent to prove they know DC better than me (they don't).

OP posts:
FinallyHere · 05/08/2023 17:17

“I’m sorry I forgot, DC asked for Icecream and I was getting one for myself, I don’t see the harm”.

I don't buy this. What adult honestly gets themselves an ice creme and leaves a child to ask if they can 'have one too'.

The instinct to feed the people you love is very strong in some people. I'd suggest no unsupervised contact until weight is out of the worrying range.

It is not good but you are having to be the adult here and parent your child

ADHDBrainFood · 06/08/2023 13:48

Having had a think i won;t cut parent out but will change the way things are.

I think in future if parent is going to see DC alone I will supply the snacks. So I can give things like sausage rolls or pasties which DC loves and it matters less if they don't eat much of the meal I'm making. We were working towards this anyway with dietitian so it's bringing it forward slightly. Heck my parent is a great cook so I could maybe even pursuade them to make these especially for DC, I'm sure that'd go down well.

Will also change snacks to things like yogurts and rice pudding so if DC doesn't eat much they're still getting calories. Obviously there will still be treats of icecream and chocolate thrown in as well.

Thank you so much everyone for your insights, its helped me to reframe it in my mind that I need to change my mindset and not panic everytime we have one tiny setback. I will also discuss this with dietitian before changing it, but i'm sure she'll be happy with it.

OP posts:
User6424678852 · 06/08/2023 13:54

What a lovely considered update OP! I think that sounds like a great approach, and best of luck.

Lougle · 06/08/2023 13:56

That's brilliant news!

Snugglemonkey · 06/08/2023 22:40

saraclara · 05/08/2023 10:10

It should, but for the sake of the child who lives their grandma, I'd be trying this first.

If she still doesn't comply, then OP had a far stronger case to say "if you're defying a professional who has explained to you exactly why the protocol has to be followed, then I give up"

I would not. There is a serious issue if op is disrespected to this degree. The grandparent cannot be trusted. For the sake of the child, this relationship should be distanced to minimise the damage they can cause.

Thistlelass · 06/08/2023 23:21

No. This is a positive relationship for your child and needs to be upheld. The route to go is more education and support around the issues for your parent.

LemonPeonies · 07/08/2023 02:51

She only had your child for an hour and fed them all that? It was clearly deliberate, she didn't "forget". Being unable to see your child for 3 - 6 months will teach her a lesson hopefully.

Annoyingnamechangerperson · 07/08/2023 03:55

Bit off topic, but if your dc is medicated for ADHD have they had a medication review?
I have a dc with ADHD /Autism and some of the previous medications they tried caused massive weight loss and appetite suppression. Once swapped to another medication they were still a sensory eater due to their autism but ate a lot more and gained weight / height.

Redavocadoes · 07/08/2023 04:12

As a PP says, even without an eating issue and dieticians being involved, who gives a child a sweet snack just before a mealtime? That's ridiculous, it only ever leads to the child feeling full and not eating their dinner.
I'd never give my grandchild any treat without asking my daughter first.
I think allow supervised contact but make it clear before they come that they are not to bring any sweets or offer any treats and if they do you will be asking them the leave immediately. Tell them it doesn't matter whether or not they agree with you, you are the parent and you make the decisions, end of.

AlmostTotallyFake · 07/08/2023 07:10

I'm not saying what she did was right but is there any chance she was just getting calories in him?
We are not used to seeing underweight children in this country and it is possible she is worried and went about it the wrong way?
If not then obviously she is just an arsehole!!
I personally don't think your dietitian's plan makes much sense but that is irrelevant and you have said it is working for you so I would do as you asked because it is your child that it affects. She should be doing the same.

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