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Do I leave my fiancé for having an emotional affair?

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Bee2k · 27/07/2023 00:43

I’m a 37 and was previously married to someone who ended up being emotionally abusive as well as a cheater, so our marriage ended and I started my life again with our two small children. I went on to meet someone wonderful (my now fiancé), bought a house with him and he is a wonderful step father to my children (aged 10 and 8). We’ve been together 6 years and are engaged to be married next year. I thought our life was perfect - we have an amazing relationship - no arguments, a happy fulfilled life, great s*x life, and hopes and dreams for the future. He’s my soulmate and my best friend. My friends and family adore him. He’s never even made me cry, ever. Until 2 weeks ago.

I was on his phone and accidentally discovered hidden messages from a past female work colleague. They’ve been messaging for three years and have been meeting for walks together just the two of them every few months for the past two years. The messages weren’t sexual, or complimentary of her appearance, but they obviously have a close “friendship”. She has been offloading to him frequently about the problems in her relationship, but he says nothing about our relationship or our life in the messages. Although there was one that said “it’s so easy with you. Best mate…best everything 🤩” On one of the occasions he had even met her for a walk after we had viewed our wedding venue. I remember him rushing it towards the end! Obviously to get away to see her.
I confronted him immediately after seeing the messages and he admitted he’s been lying because he knew I wouldn’t approve of it. He swears there has been no sexual contact, not even holding hands or kissing. I believe him on that front. He knows I wouldn’t have approved of his “friendship” as this woman has a history of messing around with different guys. He used to bad mouth her to me when he worked at the same place as her. Now I’m feeling he did it to try and deflect his feelings. He had previously told this woman he fancied her (before he met me) and she made it clear she didn’t feel the same way. I also went on to see his Facebook activity which shows he searched/clicked on her profile every day for at least the past month. I feel like he’s been obsessed and infatuated with her. He’s saying he’s been naive and didn’t realise what he was doing. I feel like he’s been having an emotional affair and it hurts so much. I feel that she has manipulated him and used him for an ego boost when she’s been feeling down/had problems in her relationship. She’s played him like a puppet and he’s allowed her to.

On top of this I started digging into his bank accounts and found Only Fans payments - he’s been using it on and off for three years and has spent a whopping £700 on subscriptions and videos. I’m mortified.

I don’t know what to do and can hardly ask my friends and family what their thoughts are given the nature of what I’ve discovered. I’ve confided in my best friend who feels that he’s been naive, stupid, but that he loves me so much and if this is the only problem we’ve ever had/will ever have, then it’s a speed bump and we can get over it in time and grow stronger for it. But the deception hurts so much and I’m not sure I will be able to get over it.

He’s since deleted his Facebook and instagram accounts, given me his passwords for everything and has said he will cut contact with all his past work colleagues so I never have to be reminded of her. He’s also signed up to start counselling as he acknowledges there are deep rooted emotional attachment problems in his head.

I feel so sad for my children just thinking that they would lose another father figure in their life. It’s been a huge shock to me and I feel like someone has died as this just isn’t like his character at all. He’s been perfect on the outside, as has our relationship and if I end it with him I uproot my family again, as well as having to face moving house, as I simply couldn’t afford our house as a single parent.

Do I leave him, or try to move on from it? If he had any negative traits I wouldn’t be asking on here for advice, I’d just finish it with him, but he’s a good man deep down and has never ever done anything before to make me doubt him, nor has he ever upset me in any way, we never even argue. We’ve always had the most healthiest relationship, which is why it hurts so much.

OP posts:
PoliticallyIncorrectHitchling · 27/07/2023 11:36

He obviously does not respect you. He wouldnt have done all those things if he did. I couldnt live with someone like that. I would leave. Dont make excuses about the kids missing him. Kids are resilient and will be hurt but is it worth staying with this useless person?

neonjumper · 27/07/2023 11:38

Bin him .

You'll never be able to trust him . Trust us so fragile in relationships and once broken there is no repairing it.

If you stay, you will constantly be wondering what he's up to , you're going to be checking everything all today time and it's exhausting.

As someone up above said , do you really want to be in a relationship where you have to be his jailor?

KarrieKoKo · 27/07/2023 11:44

He’s a bare faced liar, and what does ‘best everything’ mean? He’s not who you thought he was: imagine leaving your wedding venue to see another woman? He’s looking her up a lot: meeting her, he’s clearly invested and it’s been 3 years. It’s likely there’s feelings there, do you really trust it when he says he’s only met her as a friend? That’s what the msgs are showing; so he doesn’t need to come clean to you. He’s only telling you as much as you’ve seen. OF is another problem, more gratification from women outside his relationship. I think it’s best you cancelled that wedding

DemelzaandRoss · 27/07/2023 11:49

In finding out your DP’s secret life now, you have had a lucky escape. View this positively.
There is no trust now or will there be in the future.
Retain your dignity & move on.

Feverly · 27/07/2023 11:53

@Guavafish1 it would be the liar that’s ‘throwing it all away’. If you could overlook this mans foul behaviour choices just to have a man, that’s your issue to work on, but don’t encourage other women to accept utter trash. It’s cringey.

EvelynKatie · 27/07/2023 11:55

ExtraOnions · 27/07/2023 07:47

“Emotional affair” the catch all phrase for women who don’t think men should have female friends.

Had it been a man he had been messaging & going for walk with you wouldn’t be bothered. In the strange old world of MN though, all women are predators and all men are opportunistic… so must be shagging.

I have lots of male friends, I don’t tell my husband ever message, or if I go out for lunch or dinner with them … why would I ? I don’t feel the need to forensically account for every moment of my time.

You have dumped your fiancé, and cancelled a wedding over some text messages (none of which hint at anything untoward), and a few walks.

Did you read the OP? Previously admitted he fancied her, referred to her as 'best friend... best everything 😍' and has searched her facebook profile on a daily basis. I wouldn't do that with any friend, no matter what sex.

EvelynKatie · 27/07/2023 11:56

C1N1C · 27/07/2023 07:49

@Ladybug14

You missed my point... OnlyFans aside, had he been truthful that he was meeting up with a female friend, would it have been allowed? Cafes, walking along the beach, sitting in fields, pub days... whatever it might be. I'm talking times alone with a girl for catching up, simply talking as the OP has said, nothing sexual or suggestive at all.

Yes, don't get me wrong, it could be something more, but I've done all of these with my male best friend. It's clear no-one here trusts a man alone with a woman (although many women here seem perfectly fine with having male friends and being alone with them)... so for him to admit it is to be opening the door for an argument and "I'm uncomfortable with you spending so much h time with her"...so playing devil's advocate, doesn't it explain why he might have kept it a secret?

All of the above is simply going on platonic female interactions, so just putting that question out there.

BUT, truth be told, i do think he likes this girl... I think the suggestion has been made and it looks like she has turned him down... now he's pining after her. For me, the question is was it a pull or was it a push...

Previously admitted he fancied her though. I'm sorry but out of respect to your partner you don't then hold down a close, secretive friendship with someone you had 'fancied' and been turned down by. Plenty of other people to be friends with.

Escapetofrance · 27/07/2023 12:18

You do what you want to do, but I wouldn’t be able to trust someone that had relationships like this behind my back.

Feverly · 27/07/2023 12:23

Personally I wouldn’t find a liar or OF subscriber attractive enough to date at all. Spunking away £700 is utterly pathetic beyond words. Posters handwringing over all the pukeworthy behaviour choices this man has made and how much they’d happily accept it is strange.

Iona345 · 27/07/2023 12:27

There are two types of people. Those that cheat and those that don't. If it's in there it's in there. Save your future self.

wayyour · 27/07/2023 12:32

I'd be done with just one of those examples you've given @Bee2k

Both the emotional affair (so he says ) and Onlyfans it would need ending swiftly Shock.

Sprig1 · 27/07/2023 12:33

I would, things won't get any better (speaking from experience).

babygirl88 · 27/07/2023 12:38

Going through the same now.

My hurt is nearly 100% focused on the effort and time he took to carry this out. I could overlook an impulsive act, the premeditation has killed me. Its scary.

So sorry this happened to you x

Crikeyalmighty · 27/07/2023 12:45

@QueenofLouisiana I had a very similar situation too, except I found out a long time after the event (10 years). We stayed married for reasons as you have said, I also cared a great deal about him still- however like you I cut the co dependency and no longer have him on a pedestal and I answer back far more too than I ever did.it's fine but to be honest killed our sex life as I just never felt 100% the same - I am 61 though and it all came out when I was going through menopause.

Personally OP, I would put yourself first- and make sure you get plenty of space- I found out that when they think you might tell them to bugger off- they become like limpets and it's the last thing you want

Abouttimemum · 27/07/2023 12:53

Anyone spending money on Only Fans would be out the door well before my best friend could give me terrible advice. Sorry OP.

pamplemoussemousse · 27/07/2023 13:02

Softoprider · 27/07/2023 10:32

My only thoughts on this are why do they always say 'going for walks'. Going for walks. Going for what ???

This!! Do you mean walking as in hiking, op?

Crikeyalmighty · 27/07/2023 13:09

@Abouttimemum now I agree with that. Along with webcams it's basically digital prostitution

Softoprider · 27/07/2023 13:42

@pamplemoussemousse

My only thoughts on this are why do they always say 'going for walks'. Going for walks. Going for what ???
This!! Do you mean walking as in hiking, op?

I mean as in any other activity apart from walking- unless it is horizontal walking

pamplemoussemousse · 27/07/2023 13:50

Softoprider · 27/07/2023 13:42

@pamplemoussemousse

My only thoughts on this are why do they always say 'going for walks'. Going for walks. Going for what ???
This!! Do you mean walking as in hiking, op?

I mean as in any other activity apart from walking- unless it is horizontal walking

It's just bollocks isn't it, the last time me and DH went for "walks" that weren't of the hilly climb kind was during lockdown when we didn't have anything else to do. I thought potentially if there was a hobby involved it might make it slightly less awful. But I'm basing that on him telling the truth about "walks".

OP for me the trust would be completely gone, I would not be staying or marrying him.

NarcNarc · 27/07/2023 13:50

He’s a pig OP. Sorry, but he is. Well done for cancelling the wedding. I’m surprised by the shockingly low standards of posters who claim they’d be ok with a cheating, lying, digital prostitute user. Where’s your self esteem ladies? If you’re just sealioning, have a few herring and swim back to where you belong 🤦🏻‍♀️

Natty13 · 27/07/2023 13:59

We’ve always had the most healthiest relationship, which is why it hurts so much.

But you don't have the relationship you thought you did...

Didimum · 27/07/2023 14:06

This just got worse and worse and worse as I read. You say he's 'never before upset you in anyway' but this shit (that you know of – what don't you know of?) had been going on for half the time you've known him. Your best friend has extremely low standards. I absolutely can't stand the line 'I didn't know what I was doing' – bullshit, he's an adult, he knew exactly what he was doing and chose to do it for years. Yes, I would leave 100%.

StellaJohanna · 27/07/2023 14:26

He's a complete dud - and a fake. He showed you what he thought you wanted to see and hid the rest. Very, very common behaviour.

You say "He is a good man deep down". NO he isn't. He's weak, he's obsessed with an old female friend and meets her behind your back. He has paid £700 for Onlyfans encounters behind your back. That's what you know about - there could be a lot more. He is a seedy, pervy, lying, sneaking, cheating FAKE. The man you thought he was does not exist.

You need a reset. If I were you, I would take a complete rest from men and concentrate on yourself and children.

Brk · 27/07/2023 15:00

I’m so sorry 😭 there is no getting past this.

The worst part is how he deliberately deceived you, hiding messages etc. And the sneaking away from a wedding venue viewing to see her is beyond weird. Did the romance of the wedding venue make him need to see her?!

Whatever is going on in his head, this isn’t someone you can trust.

billy1966 · 27/07/2023 15:04

I feel so sorry for you.

He is absolutely not whom he appeared to be.

He's slime and a sleaze and you are simply to good for him.

Tell the truth to people.

This is all on him.

I'm so sorry.