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Do I leave my fiancé for having an emotional affair?

102 replies

Bee2k · 27/07/2023 00:43

I’m a 37 and was previously married to someone who ended up being emotionally abusive as well as a cheater, so our marriage ended and I started my life again with our two small children. I went on to meet someone wonderful (my now fiancé), bought a house with him and he is a wonderful step father to my children (aged 10 and 8). We’ve been together 6 years and are engaged to be married next year. I thought our life was perfect - we have an amazing relationship - no arguments, a happy fulfilled life, great s*x life, and hopes and dreams for the future. He’s my soulmate and my best friend. My friends and family adore him. He’s never even made me cry, ever. Until 2 weeks ago.

I was on his phone and accidentally discovered hidden messages from a past female work colleague. They’ve been messaging for three years and have been meeting for walks together just the two of them every few months for the past two years. The messages weren’t sexual, or complimentary of her appearance, but they obviously have a close “friendship”. She has been offloading to him frequently about the problems in her relationship, but he says nothing about our relationship or our life in the messages. Although there was one that said “it’s so easy with you. Best mate…best everything 🤩” On one of the occasions he had even met her for a walk after we had viewed our wedding venue. I remember him rushing it towards the end! Obviously to get away to see her.
I confronted him immediately after seeing the messages and he admitted he’s been lying because he knew I wouldn’t approve of it. He swears there has been no sexual contact, not even holding hands or kissing. I believe him on that front. He knows I wouldn’t have approved of his “friendship” as this woman has a history of messing around with different guys. He used to bad mouth her to me when he worked at the same place as her. Now I’m feeling he did it to try and deflect his feelings. He had previously told this woman he fancied her (before he met me) and she made it clear she didn’t feel the same way. I also went on to see his Facebook activity which shows he searched/clicked on her profile every day for at least the past month. I feel like he’s been obsessed and infatuated with her. He’s saying he’s been naive and didn’t realise what he was doing. I feel like he’s been having an emotional affair and it hurts so much. I feel that she has manipulated him and used him for an ego boost when she’s been feeling down/had problems in her relationship. She’s played him like a puppet and he’s allowed her to.

On top of this I started digging into his bank accounts and found Only Fans payments - he’s been using it on and off for three years and has spent a whopping £700 on subscriptions and videos. I’m mortified.

I don’t know what to do and can hardly ask my friends and family what their thoughts are given the nature of what I’ve discovered. I’ve confided in my best friend who feels that he’s been naive, stupid, but that he loves me so much and if this is the only problem we’ve ever had/will ever have, then it’s a speed bump and we can get over it in time and grow stronger for it. But the deception hurts so much and I’m not sure I will be able to get over it.

He’s since deleted his Facebook and instagram accounts, given me his passwords for everything and has said he will cut contact with all his past work colleagues so I never have to be reminded of her. He’s also signed up to start counselling as he acknowledges there are deep rooted emotional attachment problems in his head.

I feel so sad for my children just thinking that they would lose another father figure in their life. It’s been a huge shock to me and I feel like someone has died as this just isn’t like his character at all. He’s been perfect on the outside, as has our relationship and if I end it with him I uproot my family again, as well as having to face moving house, as I simply couldn’t afford our house as a single parent.

Do I leave him, or try to move on from it? If he had any negative traits I wouldn’t be asking on here for advice, I’d just finish it with him, but he’s a good man deep down and has never ever done anything before to make me doubt him, nor has he ever upset me in any way, we never even argue. We’ve always had the most healthiest relationship, which is why it hurts so much.

OP posts:
Circumferences · 27/07/2023 05:49

Sorry to break it to you but men don't have "emotional affairs" they've probably been shagging on the car on the way back from their romantic walks!
(Mind you I am mistrustful of blokes generally)

C1N1C · 27/07/2023 05:57

Maybe my own naivety showing through here... but I don't actually see the big deal.

He's basically got a female friend. Maybe someone could explain the issue? Meeting up, she's confiding in him, nothing sexual over this time, no suggestive comments etc. If you replace 'her' with 'him', no-one would care, and it's obvious everyone would have disapproved had he mentioned it was a female friend, so isn't him hiding it justifiable?

If it was the other way round and there was an indication your man would be uncomfortable with you meeting up with one of your male friends, he'd be deemed controlling, and you might also meet up in secret, because why should he dictate your friendships?

Genuine (as I said, perhaps naive) question... where did this transcend from three-year meeting a friend and not saying or doing anything remotely 'involved', to three-year meeting someone and not saying or doing anything 'involved' but now considered an emotional affair???

Yes, it's easy to say he lied, he's scum etc, but would this friendship have been "approved" had he been honest from the beginning?

gamerchick · 27/07/2023 06:04

Anyone who checks their partners phone doesn't trust them whether they find anything or not. There's no such thing as accidentally finding messages.

That alone means it's game over. The going through everything else like bank accounts, definitely means it's over.

You don't trust him, it's done. Don't drag it out.

Fraaahnces · 27/07/2023 06:10

The lies “because you wouldn’t approve” are all you need to know. He knows you wouldn’t like it and he doesn’t give a shit.

Sunflowerdayss · 27/07/2023 06:20

I’m so sorry OP, sadly in time I think you’ll see he wasn’t quite the “man” he made himself out of be.. you’ve found out 2 very big things (the EA & the onlyfans usage) in only a few days and I imagine that’s just the start of things to come.

It’s going to hurt but in time you’ll be absolutely fine and I hope he kicks himself forever

Monkeylimas · 27/07/2023 06:22

Not married no kids together - run.

PostOpOp · 27/07/2023 06:23

She's not just a "friend" because he hid all contact with her from OP for three years, half the relationship.

If this person had been male and he'd hidden him from OP for three years, been meeting up for secret walks, rushing viewing the wedding venue to get away and see him, secretly texting for years, everyone would suggest he was having an affair with a man.

It's not like the poster with a 25 year marriage and a one month emotional affair. Firstly that was (apparently) only one 300th of their relationship, not half of it. And time aside, getting back together with an accomplished, habitual liar, which OP's DP is, hoping he'll change isn't such a great idea.

OP, he's going to therapy, given passwords and deleted the apps because he was caught. If you hadn't seen the messages he'd still be messaging and meeting up with her behind your back. He can always get a second phone if he wants anyway.

And the problem is, aside from all the lying, is that if you accept this behaviour by staying with him and hoping he changes, then it's also giving him a signal that it's forgivable. Now, it might be for you, but the message he receives is an important one to be aware of.

The same goes for OF as the woman btw, it's all lying.

5hrssleepaverage · 27/07/2023 06:23

What I see reading this is a man who isn't happy in his situation. This is no reflection on you, just some men can't be honest and leave a situation. You have two choices

  1. Go to counselling with him and make it work.
  2. Leave! Is he really the right person for you or is he just filling an empty void in your life.

Sending you a massive virtual hug as this must be awful for you. You deserve much more than this.

honeyandfizz · 27/07/2023 06:27

@C1N1C For me it would be the lies. It is naive to say well if this was a man because it isn't and he knows that and knows OP would be upset / question him yet he still chose to lie for 3 years. Searching her name of FB everyday for a month and saying shite like "Best mate…best everything 🤩” are not words I would want to see my OH write about another woman. As for spending £700 on Only Fans - just no, utter ick.

Olika · 27/07/2023 06:28

I am so sorry for what you have to go through. I personally wouldn't be able to continue with this man. I think you did the right thing by cancelling the wedding.

LawnmowerBlues · 27/07/2023 06:33

@C1N1C I thought that until I got to the bit about how he'd told this woman before all this that he fancied her, but she'd turned him down. And the bit about him checking her FB profile every day for the last month.

Sorry OP - what a shock.

Nailswithhearts · 27/07/2023 06:34

you don’t need to make any decisions right now! You can sit with it and decide over time if you can cope. Whether that’s a month, a year or never that you decide to leave.

the only fans is weird and gross but I don’t think it’s the end. There’s a reason OF is so successful. Many married men use it.

the emotional affair is worse imo - can you meet up with her? I would want certainty over what happened. If he stuck to the rest, went to counselling, I’d give it a chance. If it makes you miserable later, leave.

Sorry OP, lots of hugs!

PerspiringElizabeth · 27/07/2023 06:36

If there was nothing to hide then he wouldn’t have hidden it. Or rather, a good man wouldn’t have hidden it.

I’m sorry OP!

rainbowstardrops · 27/07/2023 06:40

He's been living a whole different life behind your back. For me, I think the length of time the emotional affair has been going on for would crush me. I wonder if this and the Only Fans thing is just the tip of the iceberg?

Bansheed · 27/07/2023 06:44

Definitely leave. You have no reason to stay with this half life on the table.

Thank your lucky stars you know now.

Ladybug14 · 27/07/2023 06:49

C1N1C · 27/07/2023 05:57

Maybe my own naivety showing through here... but I don't actually see the big deal.

He's basically got a female friend. Maybe someone could explain the issue? Meeting up, she's confiding in him, nothing sexual over this time, no suggestive comments etc. If you replace 'her' with 'him', no-one would care, and it's obvious everyone would have disapproved had he mentioned it was a female friend, so isn't him hiding it justifiable?

If it was the other way round and there was an indication your man would be uncomfortable with you meeting up with one of your male friends, he'd be deemed controlling, and you might also meet up in secret, because why should he dictate your friendships?

Genuine (as I said, perhaps naive) question... where did this transcend from three-year meeting a friend and not saying or doing anything remotely 'involved', to three-year meeting someone and not saying or doing anything 'involved' but now considered an emotional affair???

Yes, it's easy to say he lied, he's scum etc, but would this friendship have been "approved" had he been honest from the beginning?

He keeps this friend a secret. Do you keep friends as a secret part of your life?

He pays for only fans

Are you naive? Definitely

whenindoubtgotothelibrary · 27/07/2023 06:56

Sadly, he’s not who you thought he was. You’re worth more than this.

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 27/07/2023 06:58

So because his friend turned him down he's settled for you. I suspect if his friend changed her mind you wouldn't see him for dust. He highly values his emotional intimacy with her, plus he's getting cheap thrills from OnlyFans. Marry him and I reckon you'll be another sad and shocked MN poster in a few years from now.

letthatmango · 27/07/2023 07:03

@Bee2k what an absolute shock to the system!

Your gut instinct around his weird obsession with this friendship sounds spot on. He started by telling her he fancied her, moved to bad mouthing her to you and then he settled on a secret friendship with added social media stalking, and this has been going on for half of your relationship. He has also been on only fans.

He is quite simply not the man you thought he was or fell in love with. He had huge needs to seek validation and kicks from other sources. He is hideously selfish and entitled at his core. I suspect this is the tip of the iceberg.

I know he appears ‘sorry’ but I have followed cheating stories for years and I have never encountered a cheat who was remorseful in the first few weeks/months after discovery. They’re often trying desperately to engage in damage control before they can quietly start up all over again. They do behave like addicts.

He is absolutely not to be trusted.

Google surviving infidelity and 180 for a way of getting some emotional space. Then if you feel you can’t leave, sit firmly on the fence and watch. Time will tell if he is determined to be a better person. Time will tell if he is making whole school changes.

TBH staying with a proven cheat and liar is not a good bet. It’s a huge risk. It’s also hard work and painful. If you were my friend I’d support your decision but my advice would be to leave. You were supposed to be in the loved up stage of your relationship, I’m
not sure I could get over that.

Good luck.

Rainydays777 · 27/07/2023 07:04

There’s a reason OF is so successful. Many married men use it.

That’s ok then! Why is the bar SO low.

Whattheactualwhatnow · 27/07/2023 07:04

OP it’s been 3 years, he’s clearly in love with her and if she ever gives him a hint she’s interested he’s ditch you in a second so he has to go. But you sound like you blame her- this is squarely on him.

Hibiscrubbed · 27/07/2023 07:04

I feel like he’s been obsessed and infatuated with her

You would be right. He is. Utterly.

He rushed out of choosing a wedding venue with you to see her.

He needs to go. I’m really sorry.

Bananabedhead · 27/07/2023 07:09

Speaking as someone who did forgive an emotional affair, don't.
You've been together 6 yrs but he has been keeping her secret for 3, that's a lot of your relationship, the times when it was obviously going so well you were going to get married he still had an eye on someone else, what will he be like during the difficult times?
It'll hurt now but will be so much worse when you find he's still doing it in another 6 years, he obviously doesn't mind lieing to you on a regular basis, that is not a keeper.

chocobaby · 27/07/2023 07:35

I’m sorry OP.
im just shocked at how many women put ‘he’s and amazing this and that; or he’s such a good man’ and then go on to list the rubbish the men that have been so described have got up to. Is the bar in hell in at this point??
what is happening ladies, where are our standards?! He pays to see only fans for Christs sake. Only fans- he sees naked or half naked women who may or may not look like you. He PAYS for that. How is that a man who is good and respectful to you and your kids? Is he a role model for your young kids?

You don’t even know what this guy has been up to. I don’t care if he gives you the PW to his entire earthly existence. He has shown you he cannot be trusted. That is not a good man.

Bananabedhead · 27/07/2023 07:41

Additionally my experience of emotional affairs is that one half is saying no taking it further, the other is just waiting in the hope it will. He has already said he fancied her and she said no, he stalks her social media so I think is she had released the breaks he would have been there.
Only Fans is a dumpable offence on its own.