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Am I being harsh with MIL?

121 replies

Eva6437 · 07/07/2023 06:31

Hi there,

Does anyone else have issues with their MIL?
My MIL is so annoying and pessimistic, I hate being around her! She has this self importance personality and always plays the victim.

MIL is divorced and lives alone 1.5 hr away. Divorce has been over 20 years and she still harps on about it and bad mouths her ex husband.
She depends on my DH emotionally and almost expects him to care for her like a husband cares for his wife? She thinks the sun shines from my DH ass and expects him to call her every week or to visit her regularly even though he works full time.
I thought things would change when we had our LO but it’s gotten worse, she expects to stay over regularly - this was the case even 2- 3 weeks postpartum with our first child and when we explained that she couldn’t stay when the baby arrived , she threw in the waterworks. We have suggested maybe staying in a hotel nearby but she doesn’t want to. I hate the assumption that she thinks she can stay whenever she likes to.

Whenever she visits she travels via public transport despite being able to drive, so she expects to stay over / being chauffeured/ to be waited on- as if she deserves it all. She’s rude with no manners as she often forgets to say please and thank you- no coincidence that this is only with me. I’ve already told my DH about this but he also finds her annoying so his solution is to ignore everything to avoid upsetting her, otherwise he will never hear the end of it. He often ignores her in person as he has very little patience with her and makes excuses to leave the house so that I’m stuck with her. This is also to avoid him from lashing out on her.

i used to hold my tongue and just let things slide out of respect for my husband, but now that LO is here, that’s my priority.
LO still wakes up for feedings in the middle of the night and going through separation anxiety, so I’m getting up multiple times to attend to LOs needs and naturally I want minimal distraction so that LO can get back to sleep.
I should mention here that the MIL stays up until early hours of the morning watching TV in her own house, but she also thinks it’s ok to do that at my house, even with my LO around- I find this is extremely selfish and inconsiderate.
As a result, she wakes up late in the morning, so I feel like we are hanging around waiting for her before we can do stuff in the day. This is obviously difficult with LO, so a few times I’ve just taken my LO out while she sleeps in til 10-11 because I’m not waiting for her / wasting my time.

She uses my LO as a topic to engage with my DH more even though she has my number and has messaged me previously about other things. Yet when she’s here, She doesn’t post E has never once offered to help with the baby- not even one nappy change!

I have bluntly told her that it no longer suitable for us to have guests in the house while LO is so young and sleep regression etc.she has ignored my message and complained to my husband.

I don’t need this negativity in my own house and I don’t want my LO to be brought up with grandma bad mouthing granddad. If it was up to me, I wouldn’t have her around at all- Is this harsh ?

OP posts:
standardduck · 07/07/2023 17:03

4 days every 4-6 weeks sounds like a lot to me, I wouldn't enjoy it if I had to be the one doing all of the hosting.

Your DH needs to be the one handling it though. He should be at home when she visits. You need to tell him you are not willing to host her on your own anymore.

standardduck · 07/07/2023 17:05

I also don't see why she needs to stay overnight if neither you or your DH enjoy it - but again, he needs to be the one who handles this without hiding at work when she is over.

LadyJ2023 · 07/07/2023 17:31

Sorry but if my hubby acted like yours and we have 3 under 2s I wouldn't stay married to him. He dives on with everything after work. This isn't your mil the problems it's your dh it comes accross your anger at her but like many others are saying she's actually doing nothing whatsoever wrong your aiming your upset at the totally wrong person and it's up to you to address that. We have family stay often doesn't bother us then sleeping on the sofas or whatever or having a lie in. They come to see the kids and have an amazing time each time someone stays. I wouldn't expect any to change or feed my toddlers but if they do it's one less for me to. We've always made it clear tv can be watched but low from a certain time and aslong as our fam doesn't get woken we only care all are happy.

Eva6437 · 07/07/2023 17:41

To those asking, she has another son who lives 20 minutes away . By the sounds of it he acts the same way as DH too as she complains about him and her other DIL when around to which I don’t ever get involved because it’s not my place.

I also agree with everyone regarding DH having to step up.

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jannier · 07/07/2023 18:12

Eva6437 · 07/07/2023 16:52

Well maybe that’s the thing, my parents / friends would not expect to be waited on when visiting us and especially not when they know I am sleep deprived LO, and they offer to help out in any way that they can.
Also, they don’t expect to stay over when they’re aware my LO is crying awake every 2 hours for an hour

Maybe they feel more welcomed and comfortable but she picks up that she's not so doesn't want to risk being called interfering or judgey

Eva6437 · 07/07/2023 18:50

standardduck · 07/07/2023 17:05

I also don't see why she needs to stay overnight if neither you or your DH enjoy it - but again, he needs to be the one who handles this without hiding at work when she is over.

She cries whenever we try to set boundaries when she visits, DH gives in because he doesn’t want to deal with her being upset.

not sure if you read earlier post, I had PND after having LO and wasn’t ready for visitors to stay, instead of being understanding she cried.

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woodhill · 07/07/2023 18:59

It wouldn't hurt her to lend a hand when she's staying

Yanbu

Fraaahnces · 08/07/2023 19:41

Honestly, I think you need to start crying too if it works for DH.

Mybusyday · 08/07/2023 19:45

This sounds very familiar to my own experience - I hate to say it but she will only get worse, if you can nip things in the bud now it will be better for you. I have been NC with my own mother in law for 18 months now and she is dead to me in my own mind

billy1966 · 08/07/2023 20:10

Fraaahnces · 08/07/2023 19:41

Honestly, I think you need to start crying too if it works for DH.

This is so funny.

Years ago my older colleague had a super "sensitive" future SIL who cried and got her way.

Her husband was a bit soft and conditioned over the years by this.

There was some drama with her wanting to be a bridesmaid before the wedding and my non crying colleague was having none of it.

She started a big loud ugly snotty cry, desperately upset.

He had NEVER seen her EVER shed a tear and nearly fainted with shock.

He was straight on to his mother and sister, put them totally in their place so firmly.

She told us if anyone is going to be manipulating my husband with tears going forward, it will be me.😁

She was lovely, we were young, and she was hugely entertaining.

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 20:28

Mybusyday · 08/07/2023 19:45

This sounds very familiar to my own experience - I hate to say it but she will only get worse, if you can nip things in the bud now it will be better for you. I have been NC with my own mother in law for 18 months now and she is dead to me in my own mind

Thanks.

As I say, with LO in my life now, I’m going to put my foot down.
I have told her no overnight stays which will hopefully improve things and make her visits more enjoyable.

I will call her out if she’s rude to me or have no manners in my own house- it’s disrespectful and unacceptable.

The reason why I’m standing up to her is because as mentioned , DH doesn’t want to upset her- so yes it’s pretty shitty that DH doesn’t have my back but also I have a voice and my own mind. I’ve only held my tongue for the last 15 years out of respect for DH, but with LO around, it is not ok to act like this and I’ve reached the end of my tether.

OP posts:
Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 20:32

Fraaahnces · 08/07/2023 19:41

Honestly, I think you need to start crying too if it works for DH.

Thanks for the advice but No I won’t manipulate my DH this way.
he’s had this done to him his whole life and I’m not going to stoop to that level.

In an adult manner, I have had words with DH and since has apologised and has been a lot more hands on with LO and house errands

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Mybusyday · 08/07/2023 22:51

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 20:28

Thanks.

As I say, with LO in my life now, I’m going to put my foot down.
I have told her no overnight stays which will hopefully improve things and make her visits more enjoyable.

I will call her out if she’s rude to me or have no manners in my own house- it’s disrespectful and unacceptable.

The reason why I’m standing up to her is because as mentioned , DH doesn’t want to upset her- so yes it’s pretty shitty that DH doesn’t have my back but also I have a voice and my own mind. I’ve only held my tongue for the last 15 years out of respect for DH, but with LO around, it is not ok to act like this and I’ve reached the end of my tether.

I honestly think this is the right way to go with things. I really wish that I had put my foot down with my MIL right from the start - good luck

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 22:52

Mybusyday · 08/07/2023 22:51

I honestly think this is the right way to go with things. I really wish that I had put my foot down with my MIL right from the start - good luck

Thank you

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billy1966 · 08/07/2023 22:52

Good for you OP.

I think the point being made was some men bend to the squeaky wheel getting the most oil.

Putting your foot down and insisting that he be a better husband, father and decent son, will make your life better in the long run.

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 22:54

Thank you!

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PrinceHaz · 08/07/2023 22:58

It’s a DH problem. He shouldn’t dump her on you.

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 23:07

PrinceHaz · 08/07/2023 22:58

It’s a DH problem. He shouldn’t dump her on you.

i completely agree DH has issue and should be dealing with her, but at the same time, MIL should not be rude and should have manners- that is something that mothers teach their children, not the other way around right?

just because she’s my MIL, does not mean she is entitled to do what ever she wants in my own house and expect people to run around after her? I mean we did for so many years when it was just me and DH, however, with a baby , this is far more difficult.

I would never, in a million years, do this if I was a house guest.

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DeeLusional · 25/01/2024 09:43

Eva6437 · 08/07/2023 20:28

Thanks.

As I say, with LO in my life now, I’m going to put my foot down.
I have told her no overnight stays which will hopefully improve things and make her visits more enjoyable.

I will call her out if she’s rude to me or have no manners in my own house- it’s disrespectful and unacceptable.

The reason why I’m standing up to her is because as mentioned , DH doesn’t want to upset her- so yes it’s pretty shitty that DH doesn’t have my back but also I have a voice and my own mind. I’ve only held my tongue for the last 15 years out of respect for DH, but with LO around, it is not ok to act like this and I’ve reached the end of my tether.

15 years? You have one child? Does DH's brother have any children? Is your DC MIL's 1st grandchild after a long wait? (4 nights is still too long but I would tolerate a 1-night stay as it's a 3-hour round trip).

Despair1 · 14/06/2024 19:24

Gosh, you seem very harsh and critical of your MIL. Phoning every week and expecting to stay over when she visits every few weeks????? Suggestion that she could stay in a hotel????? That sounds unkind.
It comes across that you don't like her.
If this comes across as being too judgemental, that wasn't my intention but it is important that I'm honest

Finallyhappyat58 · 16/06/2024 18:46

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