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The script begins......

92 replies

Chewbaccaslime · 06/07/2023 19:10

Just that really. DH gone to PIL after lots of woe is me, 'mental health problems' that have appeared overnight, not happy, not sure if he loves me anymore blah blah blah. Meanwhile I'm left at home with the kids. Four years ago I would have been upset. Now I'm just pissed right off.

He swears blind there is no one else. There's always some fucker else, isn't there?!

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Chewbaccaslime · 08/07/2023 11:20

It's shit because we have been able to talk so calmly and respectfully with each other about all of this. I makes me think 'why can't we do this all of the time?'. But I know we are able to be calm because we haven't been under the same roof. We're both two people who work better alone. And it's shit accepting that.

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clareangel · 08/07/2023 11:43

Chewbaccaslime · 06/07/2023 19:10

Just that really. DH gone to PIL after lots of woe is me, 'mental health problems' that have appeared overnight, not happy, not sure if he loves me anymore blah blah blah. Meanwhile I'm left at home with the kids. Four years ago I would have been upset. Now I'm just pissed right off.

He swears blind there is no one else. There's always some fucker else, isn't there?!

Hugs to you and sending you strength, in same place, mine left a week ago for "time by himself" after 2 years of gaslighting, feel the same, leaving for 3 months housesit after 30 years together, my friend convinced he's moved in with another woman, almost don't care any more if he has! Hes in touch with the kids (20s) but ghosting me, other than when he wanted to pick something up (I went out) clearly doesn't care how I am so he can f off! Still hurts deeply but boy am I angry that I've put up with 2 years of shit. Don't mean to hijack, just wanted to let you know I understand how angry it makes you feel and sending you strength and sisterhood! Xx

clareangel · 08/07/2023 11:44

Chewbaccaslime · 06/07/2023 19:23

My ducks are getting poised as we speak.

LOVE this! Need to poise my ducks too xx

clareangel · 08/07/2023 11:56

Billybagpuss · 07/07/2023 07:22

So he says ‘you make him miserable’ marriage is a 2 way street, what has he done to make you happy?

I guess today will be a blur, but in amongst lining up your ducks and looking after dc, start thinking about you.

Whoa! This stopped me in my tracks!! After 2 years of gaslighting, now temporarily moved put and ghosting me .. not once did I ever ask myself what he did to make me happy! Too busy appeasing and blaming myself, thank you for this, really made me re assess! Xx

clareangel · 08/07/2023 12:01

Pixiedust1234 · 07/07/2023 23:35

but I'm terrified of sleeping alone.

For tonight get a pillow or two and place it on his side. As soon as you can get one of those large pregnancy pillows so it will always feel as though there is someone with you. It's the adult version of a teddy 😉

As for the evenings you will soon settle into a routine but for now maybe a deep relaxing bath with zenlike music, or clean out those kitchen cupboards you've been putting off for months.

I leave my book open on his side of the bed, and my phone, such a rebel! 😂my dog has been sleeping on the floor beside the bed since he left, wish she would take over his side but she is the sassy Independent Woman I wish to become! Lots of love to you, you are doing brilliantly xx

Catlover100 · 08/07/2023 14:23

You will get there OP. I remember that feeling of sleeping alone after years of sharing a bed, at first I hated it and cried buckets when my exH moved out but now I love having the bed to myself, really love it. Not sure I would share a bed every night ever again.
I had never lived alone, I went from home to shared houses/living with boyfriends to living with exH and when he left the idea of living alone really scared me.
I currently live with the kids but they are growing up, one is already at Uni, and now I am actually looking forward to living alone. I would never, ever have imagined I could feel like that when I was where you are right now.
I'm not saying it's easy, it's a tough road to travel with lots of sadness that things didn't work out the way you expected, but it really does get easier with time. Hang in there! xx

AcrossthePond55 · 08/07/2023 16:27

Chewbaccaslime · 08/07/2023 11:20

It's shit because we have been able to talk so calmly and respectfully with each other about all of this. I makes me think 'why can't we do this all of the time?'. But I know we are able to be calm because we haven't been under the same roof. We're both two people who work better alone. And it's shit accepting that.

This is not a case of 'two people who work better alone', it's a case of two people who work better without each other. Don't write yourself off as a 'loner' or AS until you've actually been on your own for quite some time. You don't know who you are now because he is affecting your 'mindset' and behaviour. And you won't know who you will become once he's gone until you've had time to 'decompress' and actually 'learn who you really are'. If you feel you want or need help to 'find yourself' seek counseling, it can really work wonders.

Give yourself time and don't be so critical of yourself. Now is the time to look for your strengths, and I know you've got them! Look at how you are moving forward. You had a decent night's sleep! Congratulations!! Don't denigrate the progress you've made because you think your steps are too small and you're shedding tears or having moments of panic. Those will pass in time and you will see yourself as the strong and capable woman that you are!

If I may suggest, you don't need to remind eldest to text their dad. Begin as you mean to go on, and that means that STBX needs to be responsible for his own contact with the children. If he wants to hear from them, he needs to initiate it. If they want to hear from him they need to initiate it. I think you've probably spent your marriage as the 'driving force' and 'chief organizer' for the whole family but it's time to take that hat off as far as STBX is concerned.

Remember, too, that there will be peaks and valleys, moments of strength and moments of weakness. One day you may feel you can conquer the world. The next day you may have trouble getting out of bed. This is all normal and you need to tell yourself 'This too shall pass'.

This poem by Dr Maya Angelou was written about the Black experience, but I think it also expresses the experience of every woman who has felt broken and down trodden. I've had times in my life where I've written in big black letters on a Post-It "I RISE" and I've stuck it to my makeup mirror. The words remind me that I have risen before and will rise again.

Still I Rise
BY MAYA ANGELOU

You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.

Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.

Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops,
Weakened by my soulful cries?

Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin’ in my own backyard.

You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I’ll rise.

Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?

Out of the huts of history’s shame
I rise
Up from a past that’s rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.

Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.

Chewbaccaslime · 08/07/2023 21:56

@AcrossthePond55 thank you. I'm already doing a bit of navel gazing and thinking about finding myself. My dad has made a few interesting remarks about suiting myself in all of this which do seem to be hitting a bit of a nerve. I feel awful but there are a lot of things I've thought of already where I will be happier to have a bit of my own space.

I can't believe how quiet the house feels without H in it and I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. He always had the telly on constantly and I haven't had it on much at all.

I still miss him so much it hurts. The kids seem to be OK although they are not big talkers about their feelings and they show their emotions in different ways. How DS1 has been today makes me wonder if he's worried. H is taking the kids tomorrow so will no doubt be busy and emotional. I'm dreading overnights but we aren't quite there yet

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AcrossthePond55 · 08/07/2023 23:35

I still miss him so much it hurts.

@Chewbaccaslime

Of course you do. There's no rule that says our hearts and emotions shut off when they walk out the door. IMO the best thing to do is acknowledge the feelings, don't try to 'talk yourself out of them'. Seems to me the harder we try to deny feelings the stronger they feel. You still love him? That's OK, because love doesn't shut off like a faucet.

But it DOES turn like the tide and eventually it will go away. You just have to keep doing the things you need to do, take time to enjoy the good things in your life, and keep reminding yourself "Maybe I do still love him today, but there will come a time when I don't love him anymore. It may not be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, but that day WILL come".

Chewbaccaslime · 09/07/2023 12:57

Feeling ridiculously positive today. He's taken the kids out for the day and I'm sorting out all the practical and financial stuff at my end. Although I am waiting for a couple of other things like updated tenancy agreement before I can complete my UC claim. So just getting a bit frustrated and wanna get the ball rolling. But it's Sunday and the world grinds to a halt on a Sunday.

I still get so sad. I still feel a bit shit about stuff. I worry about being lonely and the whole 'will I ever find anyone else?'. But I am also ridiculously excited about the future moving forwards. Its great knowing that Im in control of everything and there are already loads of things im thinking about changing in the house. I'm probably throwing myself into that as a way of avoiding the sadness.

I've always been one of those people who subconsciously puts everyone else's needs first and for the first time in my life I am one hundred percent in control of everything. And it's brilliant.

Although what is also becoming apparent is how separate our lives already were. Which is sad. But good because it makes everything easier to untangle.

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AlwaysReadyNeverSteady · 09/07/2023 13:09

Yes!!!!

This is amazing OP! So proud of you!! You can so bloody do this! Keep yourself busy and after you've done that, have a little peaceful sit in the sunshine and think of all the wonderful things you have lying ahead of you.

As a little aside, I thought I'd be alone forever too... Not going to lie had some eye opening experiences over the years that nearly finished me off 😂 but I'm now with the most glorious man and he's everything I ever wanted.

Keep the faith OP - You're doing brilliantly! xx

Chewbaccaslime · 09/07/2023 13:36

@AlwaysReadyNeverSteady I'm in absolutely no rush to meet anyone else TBH. My focus is on my kids. I catch myself thinking 'is this it?! I'll never have sex again in my life?!' 😆

I worry about my world becoming very small. I WFH and of course I've had my kids dad at home for childcare when I want to go out etc. It's just working all that out now.

But I am excited. I can paint my bedroom luminous green and no one can say anything about it. Well the landlord might!

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AlwaysReadyNeverSteady · 09/07/2023 13:48

No, I know it's extremely early days and that's the last thing on your mind, just wanted to give you some hope that you won't be lonely!

If you achieve 50/50 it's even more time to get out and do your own thing. The world is your oyster ❤️

GrinAndVomit · 09/07/2023 14:11

@Chewbaccaslime

You’re going to meet someone incredible very soon.

You’re going to meet yourself without the negative weight of this draining man zapping your energy, time and enthusiasm.

It’s your time now. Don’t worry about other men. It’s you who you need to be worrying about pleasing xxx

Chewbaccaslime · 12/07/2023 06:20

Just wanted to say I'm still here. Not felt the need to vent about it as much because I have been speaking to people IRL. Interestingly, STBXH hasn't mentioned it to anyone beyond his family. He's friends with one of the neighbours and not told them yet. So I was left in an awkward position when they asked about him packing up the car the other day.

He's found a new place and started moving out of here and in there. The speed at which its happening makes me wonder if he's had this planned for a while. But I don't really care if he has or not. I've been doing a lot of looking back through our relationship and we have both been miserable for a long time. There have been good times too. But the underlying current was one of unhappiness.

I'll be glad once this week is over. He will be moved out. The kids finish school next week and I have leave from work so can make a start on building a new life.

I've had a lot of trouble sleeping and I actually managed a decent night's sleep last night. I also realised I can take up the entire bed if I want to now. All of these tiny little moments are absolutely priceless. I've realised how much I've compromised myself all my life for someone else. And I never want to do that again.

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Whyemseeaye · 12/07/2023 10:37

Glad you're okay OP. It's very difficult but it sounds like you're keeping it together amazingly.

You're right to not worry if he's been planning this for a while. Like you say a look to the future and not to the past

momtoboys · 12/07/2023 15:39

I have been thinking about you and amazed at your strength. You and your kids will be fine. And you will have sex again. Maybe better sex with someone new! 😁

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