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Do I leave him?

55 replies

whycantIthinkofadecentusername · 28/06/2023 14:16

Not sure why I'm posting, I suppose to get this off my chest and order my thoughts.

This might be long to avoid the classic drip feeding.

Four years ago DP (as he was then) lost both his best friend and sister to cancer. Obviously I was there to support him. Held his hand all the way through, was his literal shoulder to cry on. Helped organise his sisters funeral, did all the running around etc. never once questioned that. Six months before I lost my grandad, the man who raised me.

Anyways fast forward to 2020 and he gained a promotion at work, then obviously covid hit. My work increased, his furloughed all team except him. Fine. During this time I noticed him going downhill in terms of mental health. Over the next three years he got worse, withdrew from the family, was glued to his phone, snapped all the time, and said some truly nasty things to me. I begged him to go to the doctors, counselling, asked what more I could do to support etc. each time I had my head ripped off.

It all came to a head on our 15th anniversary 2023. We went out for the first time in three years. He made a huge deal about how he arranged something, dress up nice, etc etc. So we end up at the local harvester, not a problem but not quite the hyped up experience, where he proceeds to sit glued to his phone answering work emails. I tried to make conversation several times and was ignored. For context I work a job where I am on-call one week in every seven. I made special arrangements to not be that night at his request.

After an hour of being ignored, of which I had been to the bar three times and had comments made to me by others about being ignored and cried in the toilets for 10 minutes. I cancelled my food order, grabbed me jacket and walked the five miles home. It was another hour before he noticed I had left.

That night he confesses he was depressed and wishes he wouldn't wake up in the morning and that it was my fault for forcing him to take the promotion. The only conversation we had was me saying I think you can do it, and would be good at it, but it's your choice. I give him the ultimatum go to the doctors and get the professional help you need or I will take DS out the house until he does.

He goes to the doctor is diagnosed with depression and anxiety and given medication and counselling. He initially refused and I reminded him that I am not prepared to have DS around this anymore as it was affecting him and that I don't deserve the horrible things that were being thrown at me. In particular he said he resented me for DS being born and the life we had built as it wasn't what he wanted. And that MIL will always be the priority to him.

He engaged with the treatment for two months, then in December of 2023 declared himself healed and refused to take any more tablets or go to counselling.

Early December saw a major incident in my area. I worked 48 hours straight dealing with a large evacuation. Came home to him arguing about me being at work, he was left with DS, I always put work above my family, I'm a bitch for doing this to him, his mom needed him and he was stuck with DS. I told him that night I wanted space from him as I work through what happened and that we are in serious trouble.

For the last six months he has not once respected my ask for space. Has continued the verbal bashing with gems such as DS is better off without you, I'm sick of no physical relationship, why aren't you just over it, you can't punish me for being ill, you trapped me into DS, and I don't wish he wasn't here. I'm not punishing him for being ill but I can hold him to account for the vile things.

I saw a counsellor to help deal with it and he made it so uncomfortable every time I came back creating arguments because he was worried what she would think of him, that I actually stopped.

This week I accepted a new job offer for a Director position, following consultation with him where he agreed I should go for it. Every since, when I mention things like the neighbours having a loud drive party at 11pm at night being annoying, or I want to switch my 10 year old car to something a bit newer, he says I'm being snobby and because of this new job I think I'm too good for everything.

The usual comments of he then resents me for DS and out life, I'm punishing him for being ill, and he should just throw me on the end and have his way with me to show me what I'm missing because he is sick of no sex.

Sorry for the essay, I don't want to drop feed. I've been miserable for years, given him chance after chance. Do I leave? Or do I just put it down to his depression and wait for it to get better?

Are these red flags?

OP posts:
chickenwings2 · 28/06/2023 14:19

I absolutely would leave him you deserve so much better as does your kid. Let him live with his mum seen as she's such a priority

Always4Brenner · 28/06/2023 14:22

I’d be flying out that door so quick concord would have a job keeping up, get ducks in an and get out as soon as. You have complete my sympathy.

Always4Brenner · 28/06/2023 14:24

Always4Brenner · 28/06/2023 14:22

I’d be flying out that door so quick concord would have a job keeping up, get ducks in an and get out as soon as. You have complete my sympathy.

As for sex comment he’ll be crap selfish Ken like this usually are.

Hazelnuttella · 28/06/2023 14:24

OP you really glossed over this one:
and he should just throw me on the end and have his way with me to show me what I'm missing because he is sick of no sex.

The rest is pretty appalling but threatening to rape you is something else.

Yes you should make arrangements to leave now. There is no coming back from this.

Zanatdy · 28/06/2023 14:25

His comment is disgusting. I think the relationship has reached its end and the longer you’re with him the longer the misery living like this.

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 28/06/2023 14:25

LTB don't wait till his behaviour escalates, get your DC out of that toxic environment.

theWarOnPeace · 28/06/2023 14:28

Your poor son. This will be affecting him already, please look at ways to get free from this toxic bastard. Sounds like you’ve got a great job and every chance of being able to thrive without him. He’s a miserable pig, there’s no hope.

LifeExperience · 28/06/2023 14:29

Leave. And as a devout Christian that is not something i say lightly. Please get your son away from him. He is abusive to you and the things he says about your son are unconscionable.

Bettyneptune · 28/06/2023 14:35

As an outsider what you've written is pretty horrific.

You need to get out for the sake of your son and yourself. You sound incredibly self reliant, you will find it easier without him.

Get things in order quickly and end this relationship, your son is in the middle of this and must be suffering greatly

GoldDuster · 28/06/2023 14:35

Leaving alone all the other unreasonable abusive and controlling behaviour, he has outright threatened to rape you.

Leave him.

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 28/06/2023 14:37

You are not his emotional punch bag and you are not responsible for his mental health or obliged to let him take it out on you. His attitude towards his child is appalling. Send him back to his mother, since it sounds like that's where he'd rather be. You and your son deserve better.

InSpainTheRain · 28/06/2023 14:55

Wow! He is treating you appallingly! They are far worse than red flags - which are an indicate something may be wrong. These events you describe are very wrong, he is controlling you and saying some utterly awful things.

Congrats on your promotion that's amazing. Please seriously make plans to leave. I don't think you or DS should be around him if he is as you describe. Even if he decides to engage with his treatment I think you leave and assess how he is later on after 6+ months.

Bookworm20 · 28/06/2023 15:20

OP it sounds like you've done everything possible to help him and save your marriage. And he isn't even meeting you half way. in fact he's barely got off the chair. Save for taking a few pills and attending councelling - which he is resenting you for - he does not appear to want to help himself, let alone your marriage.

And the vile things he has said are just not acceptable. Depressed or not, thats no excuse whatsoever to say those things. Those are not workds of a depressed man crying for help, they are the words of a total arsehole who blames everyone but himself for his apparntly shitty life.

I agree, let him go live with his mother if she is the priority to him.

You've done literally all you can. Its now ok to say you've had enough and start looking after you. And your little boy.

This man is bringing you nothing but pain and heartache and sadness. Do you want that for the rest of your life? Or do you walk away with your head held high, knowing you did everything you could, and start living a life free from all that angst and anger?

HelpMeUnpickThis · 28/06/2023 17:54

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 28/06/2023 14:37

You are not his emotional punch bag and you are not responsible for his mental health or obliged to let him take it out on you. His attitude towards his child is appalling. Send him back to his mother, since it sounds like that's where he'd rather be. You and your son deserve better.

@whycantIthinkofadecentusername

The poster above said everything I was going to say.

Honestly you have done more than most.

Marriage is not supposed to be like this.

Yes he is ill (maybe?, although I felt a selfish / jealous of
you vibe as well) but you don’t owe him your life, your happiness or your son’s happiness. You and your son deserve a good life.

I say that as someone who has a colourful mental health history - I have worked my behind off engaging with the GP, suggested therapies, taking meds and dealing with any side effects they cause etc. I do this because I love my children and my husband and I don’t want them to be living under the cloud of misery my depression can bring.

Not that I want to be or chose to be ill but to me the only thing worse than finding myself in a dark space is then dragging everyone I care about down with me.

You tried. He didn’t / wont. It’s over now.

Leave and be happy.

TwilightSkies · 28/06/2023 17:57

Christ. Just leave. There’s no way to fix this.

whycantIthinkofadecentusername · 28/06/2023 20:12

Wow. I'm really overwhelmed by all these comments.

I'm sorry it's been a while, I posted on my lunch break, then decided to take DS and DDog to go meet a friend and his DS for a few hours to get out the house.

It's odd because never would I stand for this behaviour at work, yet I've accepted in my home.

I told my friend today, the first real person, what has been going on and he has actually offered me, DS and DDog the holiday let he has (he has a farm and uses it for family to visit) for as long as we need to get sorted. he also said that the moment something escalates to call him and he will be there. I'm not ashamed to admit I cried.

Thank you all for helping me see it's not me. I've got a bit of a plan together already. Things like which important documents I need a copy of, or things like mine and DS's passport. It seems I have a place to stay sorted until we sort either selling the house or him buying me out (I don't want it so I won't be buying him out).

I've decided not to tell him until I have everything in place, and that is purely because I can see this getting nasty between him and I.

If anyone has any pearls of wisdom I'll gladly listen to your advice.

OP posts:
GoldDuster · 28/06/2023 20:18

Well done OP, well bloody done. You sound like you've got this sorted, absolutely to the paperwork and the passports, and keeping it under your hat until you're out of there. Womens Aid have a chat service and they will have some good advice for you on the logistics of moving out in the safest way.
Good on you, now keep going.

holym0ly · 28/06/2023 20:28

So good to hear you've got a plan and a supportive friend. Sure what comes next won't be easy but it can't be harder than years of being bullied, neglected and harassed. Cheering you on OP. Get out of there. Onwards and upwards x

strawberry2017 · 28/06/2023 20:55

Can you subtly start moving bits out of the house? Anything that's important to you.
X

PaigeMatthews · 28/06/2023 21:05

Well done. He sounds vile.

whycantIthinkofadecentusername · 28/06/2023 21:33

@strawberry2017 I can move some of the really sentimental things. Said friend who has offered so much already above, drives past my house on his way to the city for work.

He's said to put anything and everything I want to one side, he will pick it up and store it for me safely. No one will notice they have left the house. To be honest most of it will be the little sentimental things, like the Christmas ornaments my Nan.

I think I'd rather start again with nothing than be beholden to 'D'P for anything.

Thank you @GoldDuster for the Women'sAid suggestion. That's a good shout and one I will be using for their advice.

OP posts:
cracktheshutters · 29/06/2023 06:37

Didn’t want to read and run, although I don’t have any advice, I’m sure you’ll get lots today. Good luck on leaving, 100% the right decision, for both you and DS. And what a lovely friend you have!

Ladybug14 · 29/06/2023 07:07

Wow. You're amazing, OP. And what a fab friend you have there. You're definitely doing the right thing, leaving. Much better for you and your child

Pancake678 · 29/06/2023 07:11

I agree leaving is the best option and it's lovely you have an option to help you. I'm thinking of tell my DP to leave for a lot less. He'd have to find a place to go cause this is my home.

Always4Brenner · 29/06/2023 11:34

Really pleased for you you’ve back up. When I left people said to a friend how unhappy I’d seemed for years. All the best and remember your life will be much better once you’ve left hugs.

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