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Handhold - guy I've been seeing has met someone else. Need to vent!

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ineedtoventahhh · 07/06/2023 14:19

Sorry if this is long but god I need to get this off my chest!

Been seeing someone casually for the last 3-4 months. I’ve actually known him for 8 years through friends, but never fancied him before now. We’ve gone to the same gym for the last few years but it’s never been more than a ‘Hi, how are you?’ and the odd chat about work etc. However, earlier this year we started speaking more. He then started to chase me romantically and at first, I really wasn’t interested and tried to keep it platonic. But after a while, I realised I did actually like him, so we started to meet up. Went on a couple of dates and regularly met at his house. I ended up doing a total 180 from not being interested in him at all, to becoming infatuated with him!

After the very first time we slept together, I noticed that he stopped saying all of the nice things (e.g. ‘Morning beautiful’ texts and telling me how amazing/different I am). Sometimes, he would go a few days with no contact at all. This would eat me up and I would wonder if it was over, until I would see him at the gym and then it would start up again. Rinse and repeat. This has happened a good 2-3 times since we’ve been seeing each other, and left me feeling horrifically low when I didn’t hear from him.

A couple of weeks ago, he went away for a week to visit friends. We met up before he left and slept together, had a really nice evening. However, I just knew in my gut that this trip would change things. He messaged me when he landed and for the first morning he was there, and then……. Nothing for the rest of the week. I drove myself mad that week, wondering what he was up to and who with, but I didn’t contact him on principle.

When he got back to the UK, I still didn’t hear from him. Then I went to the gym as normal on Monday morning, he was there and he completely ignored me. As in TOTALLY blanked me. At one point, I was in one area doing my exercise and he actually came and stood 2 metres away from me to do his exercise and said absolutely nothing. Did not even look at me or say hi. It took all my strength to hold it together, I couldn’t believe his nerve.

All week, he has continued to ignore me. I haven’t had any messages from him, and I haven’t messaged him either. This morning, he left the gym at the same time as me. We walked outside together and I asked if we could talk. He agreed that we definitely needed to talk. Turns out he met someone whilst he was away. He only met her on his first night and then she flew home (she doesn’t live in the UK) but he wants to see what happens with her. Obviously I was absolutely crushed, even though I knew it was coming. I tried SO hard to maintain some self-respect/dignity and just thanked him for telling me. I ended up walking away from him as I knew I was going to burst into tears and just cried all the way home.

I messaged him a few hours later once I had had a chance to process it, and said I had a couple of things I wanted to say before drawing a line in the sand and moving on (I couldn’t get my words out when I spoke to him in person). He said he’s happy to discuss on the phone at some point. Although I’ve just left it there, I cant even bear to reply to him and I don’t think I will. I’ve muted him on social media so that I cant see his posts anymore. Annoyingly I will still see him at the gym but I can’t go any other time of day, nor is there another one close to me and I refuse to stop doing my hobby because of him. Rest assured I will not be speaking to him or even looking at him.

Sorry, I’m just venting as this really stings. I’m trying to think of all the negatives about him (aside from the blowing hot & cold with me) – the big one being that he is late 40’s and I am early 30’s, and one day I would really like another child. If I was with him, its unlikely this would happen and I don’t know if I want to give up that dream. He is also quite materialistic and self-obsessed in that he talks about himself & his own business A LOT. He also usually goes for the ‘insta-model’ type girls who are a lot younger than him (and me!), so if I was ever in a proper relationship with him I know I would feel hideously insecure.

The last few months have been such a rollercoaster of highs and lows. I’ve been struggling to concentrate at work and I know I need to sort it out. I need to stop letting him have this much power over me. I know I don’t love him, I know its lust, and I also know from experience that I will get over it and feel better, but fuck it hurts right now.

Please throw some words of wisdom my way as I desperately need to hear them! Just keep torturing myself of how he’s saying all the lovely things to her he once said to me, which I know is bloody irrational. Feeling so crap about myself right now, although I definitely feel better for writing this down.

OP posts:
Joeylove88 · 07/06/2023 17:06

Oh I'm sorry that you are going through this.

I was in this situation except it went on for over a year! Sleeping together, spending nights in together and the messaging etc then sometimes would be so blunt or just ignore completely. I only have myself to blame because there was a point I knew that he was taking girls on dates (he never took me on an actual date) and yet I still continued to see him. He was honest about not being ready for a relationship but he told me several times that if he was ready for a relationship then I was definitely the right girl which really hurt because when I eventually plucked up the courage to stop seeing him (it took so much strength because of how I felt for him) and stop torturing myself with hope that less than a year after later he got a girlfriend! He even told me it was because he had found someone who had completely changed his life instead of just being kind and saying that he's met someone unexpectedly he decided to be spiteful to me about it because I had tried moving on with my life. This guy of yours is a fuckboy. I'm surprised you managed to control yourself when he completely ignored you. I know your hurting now but when you get some proper time and space away from this douche you will start to see clearly. When you meet the right guy you will look back and think what the hell was I thinking.

Siameasy · 07/06/2023 17:16

SaturdayGiraffe · 07/06/2023 16:03

I think next time you could give more value to your first response. He worked on you, perhaps he likes a challenge, and then he used intermittent rewards on you to make you ‘addicted’ to having his attention.
You have good instincts and he managed to override them. This happens to people everyday by scammers of all sorts.
Go cold turkey, if you can. At some stage he will try and reel you in again. You know better now.

💯 very insightful and useful
It’s called random reinforcement and narcissists do it. I’ve experienced it. You feel you have to chase.
NEVER CHASE
NEVER BE DESPERATE
I recommend this lady on Insta:
https://instagram.com/peaceful_barb?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

It hurts like hell. Put it into your work at the gym.

Instagram

https://instagram.com/peaceful_barb?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Siameasy · 07/06/2023 17:18

PS I dated a guy like that for 6 months. Wasted so much time moping about him. Now I’m so relieved I didn’t end up with him-he’s a complete loser. Arrested for DV recently and his wife has left him.

perfectcolourfound · 07/06/2023 17:37

It stings when it happens, but without any doubt at all you will look back on this time and think you had a lucky escape.

You've listed some great reasons NOT to like him.

You deserve better.

Ellie450 · 07/06/2023 17:45

Oopsiedaisyy · 07/06/2023 16:11

I don't think you were seeing each other really, you were fwb, and he saw it very much as that. You need to be clear on your boundaries and what you want from a partner rather than accept the crumbs.

Exactly this. He was likely hoping that by blanking you you would realize that the casual sex/FWB was on hold for the moment.

Thankfully you haven’t said anything more
to him yet. If you try to talk to him I almost guarantee he will be very surprised at the idea of a relationship/dating/seeing each other and will bluntly say that it was just sex. This will make you feel awful, so please don’t give him the opportunity to be a dick. Just ignore, block, and move on. He doesn’t deserve any more of your headspace.

Justalittlebitduckling · 07/06/2023 18:03

What everyone else has said. You’ve had a lucky escape and you’re worth 100 of him. Just blanking you at the gym like that? Horrid.

CantGetDecentNickname · 07/06/2023 18:23

What a coward he is. Please just ignore him back and do keep on going to the gym at your regular times. Make yourself go out with friends and be sociable; don't hide away. One day you'll look at him and see how much older looking he is than you and know that you had a lucky escape.

No point having any conversations with him so if/when he does approach you just say that it's all water under the bridge now and you don't have anything to say to him and then walk away/ignore. Sounds as though he needs the attention and wants you to run after him, so well done for not doing that. He probably will try to reel you back in at some stage so well done for muting him and see if you can block him now. Don't look back as this is who he is and you would just get treated this way again.

ineedtoventahhh · 07/06/2023 19:00

Oh my god, I am so blown away by all of these replies I could cry. Thank you so so much, this is really helping. Keep them coming!

We had both talked about it developing into a relationship, so definitely not a FWB situation. We had casually talked about the future and things like holidays. He was definitely aware of my feelings and would tell me how much he likes me etc. He would also say how he could give me an amazing life, blah blah blah. His business is very successful so I guess I got a bit caught up in the kind of life I could have with him. However, what would those holidays and material possessions mean if I constantly felt like I had to live up to some Insta standard and worried about getting older as he might lose interest in me? I’d also be living in fear of him doing this again, and paranoid whenever he went away, especially as he travels for work.

The ironic thing is, for the majority of the years I’ve known him I’ve thought he was a bit of a stuck-up prick! Comes across as a really nice guy to everybody and an absolute gentle, but also can tell he is a bit arrogant and obviously loves himself. I remember a couple of years ago saying to my friend ‘God, [Wanker] literally only ever talks about his favourite subject….himself, he didn’t once ask me about my holiday or anything’. That’s part of the reason why I’m so angry that he managed to reel me in!

With regards to me wanting to say a couple of things to him – initially I wanted to ask him why the fuck he thought it was acceptable to ignore me for the best part of two weeks and not have the balls to tell me he had met someone else. But fuck him, this thread has given me the strength not to do that (as much as I do kind of want to, I want to keep my self-respect). When something similar happened to me a few years ago I ended up begging, hysterical crying and completely losing all my self-respect. I look back at that now and I’m mortified, so I’m determined to keep my dignity this time. I’ve been through this before and been fine, and I know I will this time (although it doesn’t feel like that right now!)

This might sound childish, but unfollowing him on Instagram has made me feel really quite empowered. Mainly because he posts multiple stories a day and has previously commented about XYZ people looking at his story every day. He will 100% notice that I’m not looking and whilst he won’t mention it to me, I know that will really dent his huge ego so that is giving me a bit of satisfaction. HA! Sorry, I know that sounds petty but its making me feel better. I’ve not even done it to spite him, I’ve done it for my mental health. If I have to see photos of this girl it will devastate me and I’m not prepared to put myself through that. It helps that I have absolutely no idea what she looks like.

I’ve kept reading a quote on Insta this week that really resonates – ‘Don’t give someone so much power over you that their silence leaves you questioning your worth’.

Thank you so much for the support. Whilst I’m hurting, its helping me feel tons better. Please keep it coming! I’m going to reread this thread multiple times a day for the next few weeks!

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Beaverbridge · 07/06/2023 19:13

Like others have said, you've had a lucky escape. Block him on social media beware when his new situation changes, which it will. He, ll crawl back looking for a bunk up. Don't engage with him at gym. You, re worth so much more.

ineedtoventahhh · 07/06/2023 19:13

Oh and yes, this is a man who is turning 50 in the next couple of years. Who actually still uses hashtags, like #entrepreneur #business #lovemylife. Always made me cringe!

I have wondered why is he late 40's and not settled down (he does have a young daughter, obviously with someone more than half his age). He obviously has no problem attracting women... I suspect because he tells them what they want to hear then ditches them when he's done with them.

Whilst I'm upset he's met someone else, I'm much more furious that he didnt even think enough of me to fucking tell me and just flat out ignore me. As well never knowing where I stand with him.

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5128gap · 07/06/2023 19:15

Be happy you've got away from this one, and make sure you never go back.
He has manipulated you into becoming infatuated by him by a process of making you feel desired and special, and when you start to enjoy it, taking it away. Then throwing you another crumb. It's a common tactic men use when they want a women who would otherwise be out of their reach (most women your age would not be interested in a self centred unreliable rather sleazy man of his) and when the woman becomes attainable they decide to try for another.

You haven't enjoyed your time with him, you've just experienced a cycle of worry and rejection followed by relief powerful enough to fool you into thinking its happiness.
Now you're free.

hattie43 · 07/06/2023 19:18

He sounds awful and tbh the only person he loves is himself . It's very unlikely to work with this new woman in fact any woman with any self respect .
It'll sting for a while but you will meet someone far nicer . You'll be glad you dodged a bullet

Thebigblueballoon · 07/06/2023 19:20

He has probably ghosted so many women in the past, but didn’t have a clue how to deal with you because you’re in close proximity on a regular basis. So he cranked up the twatty behaviour in response and, well, ended up looking like a prize prat. You’re in the lucky position of having witnessed first hand just how disrespectful and dismissive he is to the women he gets involved with. Don’t forget it.

coxesorangepippin · 07/06/2023 19:22

At least he's showed his true colours earlier on op, what a fucking relief

Whatliesbeneath707 · 07/06/2023 19:52

I think you have got some really good insight into this already.
My advice would be:

*Look for the gifts of not being together- write down at least 10 reasons why you are better off without him. Revisit this list if he ever tries to tempt you back!

*Work on yourself. Think about what you want your future to look like, so if you meet someone new you have a clear idea if they are for you.

*Trust your gut instinct - ALWAYS! Your first thoughts about him were right.

*Write down all the things you want to say to him, in great detail. Really get it all off your chest. Read through it but don't send it to him. He doesn't deserve anymore of your time or the heads up from you, telling him how to act differently when he meets the next poor unsuspecting soul. Use these wise insights to guide you when choosing your next partner. His list are all the things to avoid! As others have said, you have dodged a bullet!

*Look at attachment styles and do the quiz to work out which style you are. You could even have a go at working out the exs attachment style. This can help you feel confident when you are moving into new relationships.

*Sit and write down all of the things that you have got going for you. How would your friends & family describe you. Know your worth and use your great insight and emotional intelligence to your advantage when you meet someone new.

*Enjoy working on yourself and look forward to new adventures with people who are worthy of your time and effort. Maybe in time to come, you can actually thank him for cutting you loose and avoiding getting further into a superficial & potentially destructive relationship.

Raise a glass and celebrate being single @ineedtoventahhh 🥂

Bucketoftwohorns · 07/06/2023 19:56

Ugh! Nothing less attractive than a man of his age who has the emotional intelligence of a very shallow puddle. You sound like you have conducted yourself well despite his awful treatment of you. He has probably aligned himself to this new girl because her living abroad makes her a challenge. It won’t last and it’s highly likely he’ll try to reel you back in. Make sure you tell him how you’ve realised the age difference is very off putting and he’s just not your type anymore.

barmycatmum · 07/06/2023 19:58

Ugh, he sounds gross.
once the brain-drugs (oxytocin etc) wear off, I bet you’ll go back to your early ick-feelings, and wonder “what was I thinking?”

just the fact that he’s a grown ass man and ignored you in the gym makes him sound like a complete loser.

You deserve FAR better than this. When he tried to reel you back in (and I think he will - he’s a predator type who likes to chase)- please please just laugh in his face.

he’s far too old for these stupid, childish games he’s trying to play.

Snoozingagain · 07/06/2023 20:03

Wow I can't believe he just ignored you like that, sounds more like the behaviour of a 20 yr old fuck boy than a 40 yr old grown ass man.. he obviously just shags about.. I think you came out of it well with your dignity intact 💐

LightlySearedontheRealityGrill · 07/06/2023 20:05

What kind of revolting human being behaves like that, it was sort of normal until the blanking you at the gym. The problem with these creeps is the hot /cold behaviour creates trauma bonds - its not real, its not healthy. The up/down and on/off - proper dirty psychological game playing. Hopefully its a lesson learned for you. Don't even engage with people like this, they are so damaged they create harm all around them.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 07/06/2023 20:05

Remind yourself that he was punching above & you are worth far more!

thisbathiscoldnow · 07/06/2023 20:08

Didn't want to read and run but just to echo what everyone else has said; you've definitely dodged a bullet there!

You've conjured up an image of Wayne Lineker in my head 😂🤢

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 07/06/2023 20:10

He'll come crawling back when it doesn't work out with the new woman. Mark my words. I hope you tell him to fuck off.

CreationNat1on · 07/06/2023 20:13

He is 20 years older than you, in midlife crisis zone, constantly chasing after the newest woman that takes his eye.

Go on dates with other people, date yourself. Don't be a sap, don't waste your time on him. He has repeatedly shown you who he is, he ll do the same to this new woman. Just move on.

MissingMoominMamma · 07/06/2023 20:13

Please ignore him if he tries again. He’s a user.

Houghmot · 07/06/2023 20:16

I’m not religious, but this helped me focus.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

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