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TW (suicide/OD) - how many people do you know who have died?

76 replies

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 09:47

Didn't really know where to put this. I'm just wondering if I and my social group are anomalies in the amount of peers who have either killed themselves, OD'd or died of addiction issues? I've averaged at least two a year since I was 16 (now 38) and have had two suicides of good friends in just the last week. In one case the partner of the guy who died by suicide lost her partner in exactly the same way two years ago, leaving her with two toddlers in her early twenties. This is fucked up isn't it? The other suicide was my sister's ex, and she already lost her fiance to addiction issues a few years ago when pregnant. I feel like I have more dead friends than alive. Is anyone's else's social circle like this or is mine particularly toxic??

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AngryBirdsNoMore · 02/06/2023 13:59

One people? One person. Typo because I said two originally, but the other was euthanasia so a bit different (old, terminally ill, near the end)

AngryBirdsNoMore · 02/06/2023 14:01

idrinkandiknowthings · 02/06/2023 13:12

I work in criminal defence and many of our clients have either overdosed accidentally or committed suicide.

On a painful personal note, my younger sister was a heroin addict. She managed to get herself clean and had secured a Prince's Trust grant to become a mobile hairdresser when she tried some methadone and it killed her in her sleep. She was only 20.

Ah, I’m so sorry for your loss. Thank you for the work you do in criminal defence, it’s a hard profession but so important.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 02/06/2023 14:03

Oh - I know of quite a number of attempts though. Under exam pressure at university probably six or seven friends and acquaintances made attempts on their own lives, although who knows which of those were a cry for help and which really wanted to go through with it

Gooseysgirl · 02/06/2023 14:05

I knew two people personally who died by suicide, one when he was 19, the other when he was late 20s. I don't know anyone who has died from addiction.

mydogisthebest · 02/06/2023 14:05

None in my family or among my friends or work colleagues. I am in my 60's

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:08

Bowbowbo · 02/06/2023 13:52

This must be very hard to deal with, I’m so sorry for your losses. I had one BIL die by suicide 20 years ago and a SIL by alcohol 5 years ago. The pain of both reverberates to this day.

So I think your high rate is very unusual/fucked up. Is it common in the area where you live? Have you considered moving away to start again in new friendship groups? Obviously with family you can’t ever get away…

I'm from a traveller background (new age, not Irish or Romany). So yes lots of drugs, addiction issues, mental health issues. I think once you have had a few friends die through suicide or OD it kind of makes it easier to see that as an option. I know I have. So sorry to hear of others' losses.

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Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:11

AngryBirdsNoMore · 02/06/2023 13:58

I agree.

I am so sorry for your losses.

Im early thirties and know one people who has died by suicide. More friends / acquaintances have died from cancer to be honest - probably half a dozen, though (thanks be to god) no close friends.

I've had one good friend die of cancer, in her late 30s. Tbh it was more of a shock than anything that she died of natural causes.

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BertieBotts · 02/06/2023 14:12

I don't know anybody personally who has died by suicide. I've lost 2 friends (accident/illness) and some older family members (cancer/old age/heart attack) but that's it.

I also don't know very many people who have had addiction problems.

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:13

Sorry for being maudlin guys! Probably should just step away for now. Thanks everyone and massive sympathy to everyone who has suffered losses

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Bowbowbo · 02/06/2023 14:15

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:13

Sorry for being maudlin guys! Probably should just step away for now. Thanks everyone and massive sympathy to everyone who has suffered losses

It’s good that you’ve been able to get it off your chest OP. I hope it’s helped 💐

Star0Fire · 02/06/2023 14:17

I would say that's very unusual and I'm sorry you've had to go through this. I'm 33 and don't know anyone (personally) who's died from suicide/addiction/overdose

peachespeachespeaches · 02/06/2023 14:17

I know 2 directly, in that one was family and one a close friend of my partners. I know of (I think) 6 who I 'know' to the extent that I'd have said hi in the street.

sorrynotathome · 02/06/2023 14:18

RoseJam · 02/06/2023 10:04

I'm really sorry for your losses OP.

Suicide is the no 1 cause of death in the UK and US. I really wish more was done to raise awareness and encourage suicide prevention, particularly among young people. But unfortunately, I fear that it is very much regarded as a taboo subject.

No, that’s entirely untrue. It is however a leading cause of death in people (esp men) under 25 - mainly because they’re too young to die of the other things that kill people early, like heart disease and cancers.

MadEyeMoodysEye · 02/06/2023 14:23

I'm really shocked and saddened to read how many people some of you know who've died this way. I had one friend who died by suicide and don't know anyone who's died from OD or addiction. And I know a huge number of people.

BriocheForBreakfast · 02/06/2023 14:24

I'm so sorry OP. That's a lot of sadness to go through.

I'm in my mid 50s and I've known of a few suicides in my lifetime until now but they weren't people I actually knew and had never met them: partners of friends of friends and all happened a long time ago. A friend of DD's took his life in the last week. He was only 20. My DD is so distraught about it and I can only imagine what this poor lad's family are going through. I met him a number times over the last 7/8 years and he was a really lovely person. I'm feeling so sad about it 😞

drpet49 · 02/06/2023 14:26

O, none at all

SunLightButMoonlightIsBest · 02/06/2023 14:28

I am in my 40s and have only known 1 indirectly (friend of a friend), nobody close to me has.

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:30

Again so sorry for other people who have gone through this. I really think once a couple of your peer group have died like this it just becomes normal? I've been sectioned twice for trying to commit suicide (probably tmi there), but there are so many people I know who have tried it just feels like a perfectly valid option.

I should probably get some therapy.

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Porkandbeans1 · 02/06/2023 14:30

Many of the people I associated with during my teenage years are dead or in prison. I had a crap childhood and was homeless for a while. Similar for the friend group at the time. We were all messed up and used drugs along with an unhealthy relationship with alcohol.

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:33

Porkandbeans1 · 02/06/2023 14:30

Many of the people I associated with during my teenage years are dead or in prison. I had a crap childhood and was homeless for a while. Similar for the friend group at the time. We were all messed up and used drugs along with an unhealthy relationship with alcohol.

Absolutely the same here. Including my parents' generation. I don't think I really know of anyone sober and 'normal'

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MMMarmite · 02/06/2023 15:10

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 14:30

Again so sorry for other people who have gone through this. I really think once a couple of your peer group have died like this it just becomes normal? I've been sectioned twice for trying to commit suicide (probably tmi there), but there are so many people I know who have tried it just feels like a perfectly valid option.

I should probably get some therapy.

Yes I agree exploring therapy would be a good idea, if you feel it might help you. You've been through a huge volume of traumatic events losing so many people.

MissWired · 02/06/2023 15:27

Whichwhatnow · 02/06/2023 13:16

I don't know which of the PP's bereavements you're talking about but I didn't see what she said wrong? One of my friends had a lovely Christmas with his fiancee and kids, complete with happy FB posts and declarations of happiness. Then hanged himself on Boxing Day with no indication of why. None of us had any idea. Other friends have absolutely drunk themselves to death or accidentally OD'd on heroin. It's just factual to say what happened.

Baffled me as well.

It's a straight forward description of their deaths. If it unsettles you, ask yourself why.

Framboisery · 02/06/2023 15:32

Very sad reading here.
I've only known 1 person to die by suicide, a colleague back in the 90s.

TrueScrumptious · 02/06/2023 15:36

I’m in my 50s and know quite a few -perhaps ten. None by drugs or addiction or OD, though. All were men.

dooneyousmugelf · 02/06/2023 15:51

A few. Since we're on the subject, I have a couple of opinions I wouldn't usually share (however this thread is about suicide): it's contagious. And talking about it to the extent we're all encouraged to do on social media/in campaigns probably does more harm than good. And if not, it doesn't help in any case. The narrative is 'just reach out, just tell someone'. Once it gets to that point that's just not going to work. People kill themselves either because they've made a choice based on being disillusioned with life or literally can't afford to continue in it, or because of mental illness. It's not a case of just talking it over with someone and then that person is going to magically give you solutions or fix your brain.
Sorry for your losses, OP. And sorry you're having a shitty day Flowers

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