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Reassure me breaking up is right decision

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dayofmeh · 09/05/2023 17:10

Sorry for the length but didn't want to drip feed.

Been with my bf for 3+ years, we are both 37. I decided to end things with him yesterday because our relationship is stuck with no progression. I had made it clear in the early days of dating that I wanted marriage and kids by the time i was 38 - he had agreed at the time and said he understood the biological pressures. He has always maintained he would want to be married before having kids, so I know he isn't against the idea of marriage.

We still do not live together. Initially this was ok because he had just bought his first flat and was renovating it which took 2 years (why it took soooo long is another story). I already have my own place and had offered for him to stay with me while he did his own up but he preferred staying with his mum as she lived closer to his place than I did, and he was doing most of the work himself. I reluctantly accepted this as I felt I still lived close enough for him to travel to and from.

Anyway, we still live separately as now he is now enjoying living in his new place and doesn't want to rent it out just yet. And it's far too small for us both to move into. But we spend most of our week with each other, discuss and know each other's finances/spending habits, and have done long periods of travel so we know we can cohabit comfortably. We agreed that we didn't need to live together before getting married, and once married would move into my place, then sell both places and buy somewhere together.

Which brings us on to getting married. Last year he said it would be best if i put some timelines so he had something to plan towards. We both agreed later this year (Sept/Oct) for marriage - no wedding, just us going to registry office and honeymoon straight after, but he wanted to propose. I checked in with him in Jan if we were still on track as at work i need to book my holidays well in advance. He said Sept - we bought tickets for our 'honeymoon' and both took the time off.

We talked again in March and he said he wasn't sure he was ready as we hadn't lived together....We agreed he would spend most of the week at mine, however this never happened as there was always a reason he needed to be back home. It got to April and he said he felt Sept was too soon as he wasn't sure our relationship was strong enough. That we've been arguing recently (over his reluctance to move in, and his about turn on readiness for marriage!). So we agreed 21 May as the absolute deadline for him to figure out what he wanted. Yesterday, he told me he thought my timeline was too rushed and marriage still felt like an alien concept to him. That it feels like a big step. So i asked him what timelines he preferred - he admits he doesn't know!! But doesn't want to break up, can't imagine his life without me, just needs more time but doesn't know how much more time or what new information he needs to help his decision.

So basically, it feels like doesn't want to marry me and is just dragging his feet. I ended it with him yesterday as he doesn't like my plan, doesn't have his own plan and we are just stuck. He can't seem to understand why I don't have unlimited time to give him at my age! I still love him but it's making me feel really deflated that he keeps coming up with excuses to not marry me. So please tell, did i do the right thing or should I be more understanding?

OP posts:
MagnificentDelurker · 09/05/2023 17:15

I am really sorry you are going through this. It must be heartbreaking.

He is taking you for granted. You mage the right decision.

Fedupofdiets · 09/05/2023 17:17

He is stringing you along by moving deadlines. Look if he loved you that much and wanted to be with you he would commit to you but he doesnt want to. You have to take control and do what is right for you and not put up with this half arsed relationship. You are doing the right thing.

TheYear2000 · 09/05/2023 17:28

You deserve better. Actions speak louder than (vague) words and you are ready and want to live together and get married, and he isn't. And he is a coward for stringing you along. However, I'd say better to break up now that get married when he isn't 100% and then have to divorce.
I am sorry, it sucks going through a break up at our age. But things will get better!

Starbrand · 09/05/2023 17:28

You’ve been brave and done the right thing. I think you’ve been patient. Beware …:he might come
back offering to do what u want…then change the times again x

SavBlancTonight · 09/05/2023 17:29

OP, I think that sad as it is, you've done the right thing. Becuase ultimately, you were not happy. You want to live together, to get married and start planning for children and he doesn't. Neither of you is right or wrong, but you absolutely have the right to say that this isn't working for you.

And while I absolutely don't think that you have to live with someone before marriage, I would be concerned that he's so unwilling to live together. It suggests that he likes life better when he's with his mum or alone at his own place as he doesn't have to do anything or consider someone else.

Maybe this will be the kick up the bum he needs, but I suspect not. I'm sorry.

anthurium · 09/05/2023 18:22

Have you ever considered going it alone? Have you had preliminary fertility checks done?

I'm a solo mum by choice (happy to answer any questions!) and by removing the pressure of having children the relationship might develop at a more organic pace?

blueshoes · 09/05/2023 18:38

It is the right decision. He moved the goal posts at the last minute, which was a dirty thing to do to you when you have a biological clock. Whether it was conscious or unconscious, he cornered you so as to make it as difficult as possible for you to start a new relationship at your age so you are forced to accept his crumbs.

You are right to call his bluff.

It does not have to be final. As they say, "if you love something, let it go. If it comes back to you, it's yours. If it doesn't, it never was”. Give him time and space to get over his cold feet in his own head or whatever it is.

In the meantime, go NC, move on and date other men or look for donor sperm. He has wasted enough of your time.

Shapemyeyebrows · 09/05/2023 18:41

@dayofmeh definitely. After 3 years you should be living together by now considering you are both late 30s and wanting marriage and kids. He probably likes things as status quo but somethings stopping him committing and he’s dragging his heels. He will keep messing your around and don’t you want to find someone who is all in with you? Don’t go back to him now as you will be wasting more time, it sounds like you have given him several chances and he’s still not sure.

MMmomDD · 09/05/2023 18:51

Many men have been stuck in indecision land like this, around that age.
We have the urgency with ticking clock. They get paralysed and scared.
Few have been nudged to make a decision by facing a choice.

I’d probably have proposed to him and made him make a decision on the spot, rather than plain breaking up.

But regardless - if forcing the issue doesn’t make him see things clearer now - it’s not meant to be.

Stay strong!

Milkand2sugarsplease · 09/05/2023 18:59

I'm a firm believer that if a guy likes you and wants to be with you, he'll let you know.
He knows you have a clock where children are concerned so that tells me he's really not bothered about you enough to plan a life with you.

Harsh words, but better to know now and have the chance to move on than be strung along for a few more years and then he drops the bomb.

Lovestoned · 09/05/2023 19:04

I know too many women in this position. The guys never change, they just keep stringing them along. If he wanted to propose to you, in your late 30’s after 3 years together, he would have. I work in an industry with lots of financially sorted men who like their freedom and space and their money all to themselves. They won’t grow up. Some of them ended up having kids in their 40s, and yet still don’t marry their partners, maybe the women gave up and “the contraception failed”? Don’t lose any time now, at 37 your dating pool is very limited, but people move faster at this age. Find someone else as soon as possible. Only take him back if he gets on one knee with a ring.

CC222 · 09/05/2023 19:26

This guy is wasting your time and stringing you along. You definitely made the right decision and you deserve so much more.
I hope you find what you're looking for ♥️

dayofmeh · 09/05/2023 20:13

Thank you for kind responses. Thought I did all the right things - discussed it early doors to make sure we wanted same things, was flexible and compromised and gave him space to figure things out, set my expectations and a deadline. And still ended up in this situation of wasting so many years on a guy who didn't want to marry me.

I should have guessed when he was so reluctant to move in together, but figured it would just happen organically. Worst part is he's now saying I should have sensed his reluctance and known he wasn't ready!!! Him blaming me has just cemented my belief he was never ever planning on marrying me. Ugh. I feel so burnt, don't know how I can date again without worrying this could happen with someone else. I wish there was a BS detector for men that sounded loudly when they weren't being honest.

OP posts:
Starbrand · 09/05/2023 20:17

Let yourself feel the emotions. Ive been there and worn the t shirt. It’s really selfish of him! That wont make you feel any better but I think you’ve dodged a bullet

xfan · 09/05/2023 20:21

Men are very well aware of the fertility clock. He just doesn't want it ot doesn't want it with you on your timeframe.

Thisweeksname · 09/05/2023 20:26

You’ve definitely done the right thing OP. It’s hard and breakups are awful but at least you aren’t wasting any more time with the wrong guy. Focus on yourself and what you want. If you want children, would you consider going it alone? Men are like buses, there’s always smother eventually.

Thisweeksname · 09/05/2023 20:26

*another!

Milkand2sugarsplease · 09/05/2023 20:37

At least he's making it easy to see it was the right decision!!!

Take a moment then fist yourself off and move on without him.x

Clove42 · 10/05/2023 06:53

I think you have done the right thing. You should never wait for someone else to start living your life how you want. If the person you're with is not compatible then you need to do what is right for you.

Clove42 · 10/05/2023 06:58

Also, I am reluctant to say any time is a waste of time as through every experience you learn and experience joy and gain memories. However, you have already waited long enough. Don't wait anymore. At that point you will be wasting your time as you have taken what you needed from the experience now. Thats the knowledge of what you dont want in a relationship and signs of someone stringing you along.

GreyCarpet · 10/05/2023 07:36

I think it's the right thing to do too.

He's constantly moving the goalposts.

You both agreed that you didn't need to live together before youarried but now he's saying that you can't get married because you haven't lived together? Let guess, the initial decision was initiated by him? Well of course it was - he didn't stay with you when his flat was being done up and seems to be driving all off the joint decisions.

He has always maintained he would want to be married before having kids, so I know he isn't against the idea of marriage.

An alternative interpretation is that this makes him sound mature, responsible and reasonable whilst he's actually just telling you "No children" and it stops you from mentioning it because, well, he is being so mature responsible and reasonable.

GreyCarpet · 10/05/2023 07:41

Just read your update. What a prick.

AssertiveGertrude · 10/05/2023 07:41

Absolutely dump him
I was in a horribly selfish relationship but I appreciate it now as dh was totally different

don’t allow yourself to be used - the big red flag was when he stayed with his ‘mummy’ rather than moved in with you

evuscha · 10/05/2023 07:56

OP, you absolutely did the right thing. And you also did the right thing having those discussions with him. It’s really crappy of him to suddenly change his mind. Unfortunately the “not ready right now/need more time” from my experience just means no. After 3 years and in your late 30’s he knows whether he wants to marry you or not, and his reluctance points to a no. We got engaged after 2 years with my DH and married a year later - you really don’t need years and years of dating first at this stage.

You still have time to meet the right guy, maybe consider a fertility checkup and freezing your eggs to buy yourself more time/put your mind at ease? I know plenty of friends that had their first baby after 40. Breaking up with this guy was definitely the right call - one step closer to the right one.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 10/05/2023 09:09

Milkand2sugarsplease · Yesterday 20:37
At least he's making it easy to see it was the right decision!!!

Take a moment then fist yourself off and move on without him.x

Definitely don't do this 🤣
But agreed with all the others, he's very much made it clear he's been stringing you along. "You should have sensed my unspoken thoughts and feelings even though my words were lying to you" is some fucking bullshit. What a useless tool.

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