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Co parenting...confusion

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Zola1 · 05/05/2023 08:14

If you co parent with an ex, what sort of things do you do together and how much time do you spend together?
If you partner co parents with an ex, what sort of expectations do you have around it?

For reference, I'm talking about 50 50 shared care of young children (under 9).

Do you, for example, go on trips out together leaving your partner at home? Do you spend time in ex partners home? How much phone contact do you have? Does your ex partner still ask you to help with things? (such as their car- not lifts for the kids).

Would you sit in your ex partners house overnight when they just got back from holiday while they and the kids were asleep?

What about birthdays, would you go round there to play happy families after the child has already opened their presents from you, to see them open their presents from their other parent?
What about phone calls and facetime, how often is this reasonable?

I'm current partner.. my other half seems to just spend a lot of time with his ex. I found a 'mummy' sock in the washing before that isn't mine, he claims oldest child was wearing it. She rings him all the time it feels like, and he goes to the extent of pulling the car over and getting out to talk to her so I can't hear, even though I've told him it feels weird and cagey.

She doesn't come to our house when I'm here, but he goes to hers and just lets himself in, he still has a key that he uses, and he told me even when he takes the kids back to her he just opens the door and lets himself in. The other day we argued and I had to drive past his exs to do school run, and his car was outside his exs. For her birthday she sent him a list of things like new bedding, charm for bracelet etc for herself that she wanted and he ordered it. There was a time he told me he was in a work meeting but when I drove past hers (she lives on an A road which is the only route to work for me) his car was outside her house and he wasn't in it.

He will say he's going to pick the kids up but be at her house for 1 or 2 hours.
Yesterday was one childs birthday, child opened presents at our house and then we went out together (polling so school closed). Partner then took child to exs house and spent 3 hours there..apparently while child opened presents etc. Am I wrong to think if we have time with child here opening his presents, his mum should have the same one to one time with her child? She doesn't come here at all ever. I've never met her. She pretends I'm not real and even ignores me if she sees me in the street. Partner doesn't allow me to speak to her or even be in the car when he picks the kids up.

When his nan died, he told me I wasn't welcome at the funeral as his ex would be there. His sister and his mum still spend loads of time with his ex, play dates and dinners out, visiting each others homes etc. This is all fine and and get they've known each other a long time but it feels they only bother with me if they want me to do something like mind someone's children.

More than all this though...if he ever does answer the phone and he's out with me, she gets moody with him. I've heard her ask things like 'OH is zola with you this time'. She pretends I don't exist and I think he seems to do the same when he's with her. He doesn't really answer the phone when he's with her. I've seen her in the front of his car when we were in an argument but he always has a believable excuse.
Once she phoned him about 8 times in the morning while we were still in bed, when he answered she said oh I was worried you were going to sleep through X important work thing that I know you've got today. It just felt uncomfortable and not appropriate.

I wasn't the other woman, they split before I ever knew him. I'm worried there's more going on between them, or just that he's being ridiculously disrespectful to me as I've told him that I feel like the third wheel in the relationship. He never tells me anything about her or when they disagree on things etc so it feels like I'm always on the outside and they're a little family.

I understand he needs a relationship with her, but I don't think it's necessary that he spends hours in her house, and prioritises her to the detriment of our relationship.
Am I being overly sensitive? Is this inappropriate? Please give me some perspective!

OP posts:
Squooka · 18/05/2023 12:54

You have done so well for you and your daughter! There may be difficult times ahead in the short term but focus on the happy, calm life you are moving towards. Wishing you much love and strength x

Doggymummar · 18/05/2023 13:24

Well done. You can report him for harrassment and get an idea to keep away from you if necessary. Let work know so security can keep him away too. So proud you left.

Pastryapronsucks · 18/05/2023 13:43

When I first started reading I thought you might be being a little unreasonable, then thought no you are being controlled, and now I see you are (were) in a full-blown abusive relationship. I imagine his over involvement with his ex is to keep control of her life too.

I was so relieved to read you had left. That takes enormous courage. Just be prepared for him to try all avenuesto regsin control, aggression, violence, love bombing, threatening suicide. Wishing you strength and peace. You have got this 💪❤️

Zola1 · 17/09/2023 15:50

I thought I'd come back to this.. I left, went back, left again.. turned out he'd been sleeping with the kids mum the entire time and she was in our home if I was out. He threatened to kill himself (again) because I didn't want to answer the phone to him, and I ended up ringing police. It escalated hugely over the following days to where he was arrested for following me and stopping me getting into my car. He's on bail right now. I'm trying to put our lives back together and it is so hard. It's been a month since he was arrested and every day I can breathe a tiny bit more. I've done 2 police video interviews and they've got my phone etc. Work are involved.
Some days I cry for what feels like hours. This is so difficult.

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Catsafterme · 17/09/2023 15:56

Oh, that's awful so sorry you are going through this. What a bastard.

When you're feeling low, just remember he's done all of this and there will be someone out there that will treat you well.

Zola1 · 18/09/2023 08:44

And how do I even begin to recover.. all of the hurt and abusive behaviour, everything I've given to him. All of the gaslighting and making me believe I was crazy. How do I move forward now?

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Catsafterme · 18/09/2023 09:07

It's difficult, I've recently been through the worst patch and still going through it now as my situation is still going on in other ways so I'm not out of the woods.

All I can say is ride the waves and after a certain amount of time things will settle down. Cry and get angry if it comes that's how your mind heals, don't bottle it. Talking about it to someone you can trust also helps get it off your plate.

Just know that all that head fuckerys purpose was to make you feel crazy and doubt yourself but it's not you. His behavior is not normal, you are not to blame for that, he is responsible for his own actions.

You will in time level out and come out of the other side and look towards the future in a different light. There wil be someone else if you go that route that will treat you right, without all that chaos.

harriethoyle · 18/09/2023 09:13

@Zola1 turn this around - your gut told you something was wrong. He gaslit you but it turns out your gut instinct was spot on. That shows you have great instincts and should trust them. You have dodged SUCH a bullet. Keep moving forward to get through this - knowing you were right all along.

Hellno45 · 18/09/2023 09:19

Zola1 · 18/09/2023 08:44

And how do I even begin to recover.. all of the hurt and abusive behaviour, everything I've given to him. All of the gaslighting and making me believe I was crazy. How do I move forward now?

You have no choice but to recover. Go to counselling. Work on your self-esteem. Exercise, it's great for your mental health and will allow you to build strength in your body. Join a club or do something you're interested in. It will help you get out and meet people. You need to grieve and then rebuild. Also, do the freedom programme

It's tough @Zola1 but don't let him fuck with your happiness more than he already has.

somethingischasingme · 18/09/2023 09:21

I just wanted to say well done. Breathe and hold on to your freedom. You have done a strong and brave thing. You have done the very best for your daughter. Take care.

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