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Could I ask for women's perspectives please

61 replies

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:32

As per my title, I'd really appreciate some female perspectives on this situation. I've only had one and it was quite negative (end the relationship).

Met my girlfriend through a sport that she brings some of her kids to about 5 months ago.

She was widowed young and has raised her kids as a single parent. She's had a few relationships with single (divorced or separated) Dads but nothing that worked out.

She's 7 years older (31/38) if that's relevant (she has mentioned the age difference recently). She told a white lie about her age when we were first chatting (knocked a couple of years off), which I found funny/a bit ridiculous when she fessed up about a month in). I didn't really understand why she did it and wondered what the point of knocking only two years off was.

We live 40 mins or so apart, and she only has one official night off, as it were, when kids stay with their grandparents. I mostly stay at hers on that night because she likes to be at hand for the kids.

To get to the point (sorry); I occasionally get opportunities to go out in my hometown with friends/acquaintances during the week and very occasionally at the weekend.
I take the opportunities during the week, and occasionally take the opportunities at the weekend, which are usually a Sat night (her night "off"). These are not frequent. Some are couples things, others all guys and she would be the only female present if she went.

She is increasingly expressing annoyance and upset at me doing this. She says that she only gets one night off, that's "her" night and that I should not accept invites/arrange to meet others on a Sat. When I've done this (twice in 4 or 5 months so far) I've arranged to see her on Fri or Sun instead. Apparently this isn't good enough. I've explained that Sat night is the most likely night for a night out as people are whacked on Fri and working on Mon, but that didn't seem to register.

She's also getting increasingly annoyed at me even going out for a quiet drink (once a fortnight or month) on a mid week night; and the last time I did it; got upset and angry and accused me of not caring about the relationship and not being committed to it. She even suggested we finish then but didn't follow through as such.

She's said she's not used to people in a couple going out on their own and that it's a single person thing.

On the age comment; when we haven't had sex every weekend I see her (didn't happen til recently) she said "I was wondering how a 31 year old fella could be attracted to a nearly 39 year old". I assured her otherwise but she seems to have it in her head that I couldn't really be committed and that me going out for a drink also shows that.

I'm now very conscious/a bit stressed about accepting any invitations and feel like it shouldn't be that way.

She has one friend but she also has a family and doesn't seem to go out or do much without her husband.
She was a member of another sport club that has a social aspect to it, but left (it was where she met her most recent ex). She said there was an event on and he had asked if she was going, but she didn't because it wouldn't be appropriate now she's with me. I said I didn't mind her going and that if they were all that likely to get back together, I'd have thought they would've done it in the last year or so since they've been split. I told her she didn't need to avoid events at the club due to me but she didn't seem to take it onboard.

I like her a lot and saw a future (she is open to having more kids, if possible of course) but am feeling increasingly uncomfortable about these issues.

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BIWI · 24/04/2023 13:34

Hmm. I'm with the other person - I'd get rid. She sounds very controlling.

It's perfectly alright for you to go out without her, and also with members of the opposite sex.

samestyle · 24/04/2023 13:41

She doesn't have the time and flexibility for a relationship and she's taking out on you, fair enough you have your own life too, nothing wrong in seeing other friends and a mid week drink that doesn't affect you seeing her anyway.

Matildahoney · 24/04/2023 13:42

She is being ridiculous! You should still have your own lives as part of a couple! Ever heard the saying don't ditch your friends?! If it was 4/5 times in 2 months then yes she'd have a little more to be unhappy about, but youn shouldn't be expected to drop everything because she only has Saturdays off!

antwacky · 24/04/2023 13:42

She sounds very controlling, if she's like this after only five months then she will only get worse and end up being a nightmare.

whattodoforthebest2 · 24/04/2023 13:46

I agree that she's controlling, but I'd suggest it's because she's insecure and doesn't trust you. These are her own personal issues and until and unless you give her a reason not to trust you, I'd tell her she needs to get used to it. I don't, however, think it's a reason to end it.

I really don't understand these couples that cling together and can't socialise without the other person. It's so needy and I'd find it claustrophobic.

Seas164 · 24/04/2023 13:46

I think you're right to feel uncomfortable, she's being unreasonable.

AntoniaMacaronia · 24/04/2023 13:47

You're feeling increasingly uncomfortable about these issues, that she is causing, for a reason. Listen to your instinct.

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:47

Thank you for your replies.

When she suggested finishing and I asked her did she really want to do that or what was going on, she said she feels insecure and has fallen for me. I tried to reassure her Im not interested in meeting someone else and am not out looking, she accepted that but then seems to go back to being angry, upset and stressed if I go out for a drink or accept something on a Sat. I accepted a Sat night out while a group of guys (none of them are single guys) in a month or so and asked if it was ok if we saw each other on another night instead that weekend and she got very angry again. How is this going to change, will she settle over time when she sees I'm not leaving?

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SpringleDingle · 24/04/2023 13:47

There should be no issue at all with you going out with other people and no issue with her arranging to see someone else on her non-kid night. I assume the only night you can see her is Saturday when the kids are away so of course if you both make lots of other plans for Sat nights then you won't see each other much so eventually I'd imagine you'd both be saving that night to see each other predominantly or drifting apart.

The fact that she objects to you seeing others mid week when you weren't seeing her is a BIG red flag! I think it end it over that alone, that shit is not getting better!!

SunnyLion · 24/04/2023 13:51

End it. She can't accept that you don't have the same responsibilities as she does.
You're only a few months in, it will get worse.

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:52

SpringleDingle · 24/04/2023 13:47

There should be no issue at all with you going out with other people and no issue with her arranging to see someone else on her non-kid night. I assume the only night you can see her is Saturday when the kids are away so of course if you both make lots of other plans for Sat nights then you won't see each other much so eventually I'd imagine you'd both be saving that night to see each other predominantly or drifting apart.

The fact that she objects to you seeing others mid week when you weren't seeing her is a BIG red flag! I think it end it over that alone, that shit is not getting better!!

We see each other most Sat nights.
This third one would be 3 in 6 months or so.
If there's a (non couple) group night out, it's likely to be on a Sat night. She doesn't seem to acknowledge that.

I wish she had her own social life but I suppose it's understandable she doesn't being a single Mum to several kids and not wanting to impose on her relatives too much. She only seems to have one friend and as I mentioned, she don't really do anything without her husband.
She could maybe use that club for a social life but she doesn't seem to want to. She says she likes doing things in a couple and is suited to being in a couple.

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crackofdoom · 24/04/2023 13:53

Speaking as a single mum who only has every other weekend child free:

I would hope, if you were committed to seeing me, that you'd prioritise seeing me on my weekends "off", because that's the only time we'd have to see each other;

I wouldn't be bothered at all if you chose to go out with your friends on a night I wasn't free. That's a total red flag.

NCforthis123456 · 24/04/2023 13:54

She sounds controlling - I wouldn't think about a future with this one, you're in for a lifetime of it otherwise.

Seas164 · 24/04/2023 13:55

Angry, upset and stressed is not a reasonable reaction to you going out for a drink with some friends occasionally. I don't think this needs to be given a chance to "settle", it's got not much to do with you not going anywhere, and everything to do with her own insecurity which is hers to manage.

If you want to give it a chance tell her that you are not prepared to accept her behaviour as it has been when you have accepted social invitations. That you will be continuing to go out with friends going forward and if she continues to behave with anger when you do, then you won't be able to continue the relationship.

See how that goes, but be very clear that she's hit a boundary, and what you are and are not willing to accept going forward.

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:55

crackofdoom · 24/04/2023 13:53

Speaking as a single mum who only has every other weekend child free:

I would hope, if you were committed to seeing me, that you'd prioritise seeing me on my weekends "off", because that's the only time we'd have to see each other;

I wouldn't be bothered at all if you chose to go out with your friends on a night I wasn't free. That's a total red flag.

Fair enough.

But am I supposed to turn down every single male group night out ongoing? Theres prioritising, which I thought I was doing, and then there's never doing anything else on that one night of the weekend.

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ItsThePlayBusDingDing · 24/04/2023 13:56

Oh she's done a number on you.

Straight from the manipulators handbook.

She's insecure, takes it out on you, tells you it's because she likes you so much, gets you to the point you ask her if you're allowed out and refuses an event out of respect for you, even though you never asked her to.

It will come to the point you'll stop asking her if its OK because the drama will be too much, and that's where she is aiming to be.

Cut your losses here, this won't get better, only worse.

orangegato · 24/04/2023 13:57

It’s a massive red flag, quite selfish and controlling. If I’m not seeing you that day no one can. She’s booked up every week of your whole life. No love, it’s YOUR arrangement. Run, a lot of baggage and neediness.

AntoniaMacaronia · 24/04/2023 13:58

She is trying to isolate you, OP.

heldinadream · 24/04/2023 13:58

OP you talk about her kids as if there are loads of them and say she's open to having more too?

Are you really wanting this big family, most of it ready made? Because it doesn't sound like it.
I wonder if she's 'open to having more kids' because she's desperate to get you into fathering the ones she's got?

FetchezLaVache · 24/04/2023 13:58

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:55

Fair enough.

But am I supposed to turn down every single male group night out ongoing? Theres prioritising, which I thought I was doing, and then there's never doing anything else on that one night of the weekend.

No, not at all. It would be shit of you to drop your friends because you have a GF. All relationships need some effort to keep them going, not just romantic ones.

And it's not forever, anyway. If things become serious between you, at some point you will meet her DCs and you won't be restricted to just her Saturdays "off" any more.

Seas164 · 24/04/2023 13:58

I have been in her shoes and can tell you that if there's one night of the week in which to see your man, and he's got somwehere he would rather be, then good for him and you'll head out with friends and do your own thing and see him the week after.

It's part of the deal if you're a single mum. You're not rent-a-husband for Saturday nights. You're in a position she's socially limited at the moment, and that's not your fault.

FetchezLaVache · 24/04/2023 14:00

Seas164 · 24/04/2023 13:58

I have been in her shoes and can tell you that if there's one night of the week in which to see your man, and he's got somwehere he would rather be, then good for him and you'll head out with friends and do your own thing and see him the week after.

It's part of the deal if you're a single mum. You're not rent-a-husband for Saturday nights. You're in a position she's socially limited at the moment, and that's not your fault.

Brilliantly put. I've been in that situation too and I completely agree!

FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 14:00

crackofdoom · 24/04/2023 13:53

Speaking as a single mum who only has every other weekend child free:

I would hope, if you were committed to seeing me, that you'd prioritise seeing me on my weekends "off", because that's the only time we'd have to see each other;

I wouldn't be bothered at all if you chose to go out with your friends on a night I wasn't free. That's a total red flag.

Sorry I see you said weekend; she doesn't have the weekend off, just Sat night. The older kids sometimes need lifts to the grandparents until 8/9pm or so due to hobbies etc.

If we see each other on Fri or Sun night, it's a bit different because kids are at home. I stay in a spare room. She doesn't think it's right for her kids to see a man staying in her bedroom and that's fair enough. We obviously don't have the privacy we'd have in the Sat night. And wed be running the kids places regularly. Maybe that's why she sees the other nights as no good.

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Goneblank38 · 24/04/2023 14:01

I'd end it. She sounds insecure and controlling. It's a shame because you sound like you like her.

QueenAstrid · 24/04/2023 14:04

She is controlling and trying to isolate you as PP said. This will only get worse the more serious you get.