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Could I ask for women's perspectives please

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FiachraFinn · 24/04/2023 13:32

As per my title, I'd really appreciate some female perspectives on this situation. I've only had one and it was quite negative (end the relationship).

Met my girlfriend through a sport that she brings some of her kids to about 5 months ago.

She was widowed young and has raised her kids as a single parent. She's had a few relationships with single (divorced or separated) Dads but nothing that worked out.

She's 7 years older (31/38) if that's relevant (she has mentioned the age difference recently). She told a white lie about her age when we were first chatting (knocked a couple of years off), which I found funny/a bit ridiculous when she fessed up about a month in). I didn't really understand why she did it and wondered what the point of knocking only two years off was.

We live 40 mins or so apart, and she only has one official night off, as it were, when kids stay with their grandparents. I mostly stay at hers on that night because she likes to be at hand for the kids.

To get to the point (sorry); I occasionally get opportunities to go out in my hometown with friends/acquaintances during the week and very occasionally at the weekend.
I take the opportunities during the week, and occasionally take the opportunities at the weekend, which are usually a Sat night (her night "off"). These are not frequent. Some are couples things, others all guys and she would be the only female present if she went.

She is increasingly expressing annoyance and upset at me doing this. She says that she only gets one night off, that's "her" night and that I should not accept invites/arrange to meet others on a Sat. When I've done this (twice in 4 or 5 months so far) I've arranged to see her on Fri or Sun instead. Apparently this isn't good enough. I've explained that Sat night is the most likely night for a night out as people are whacked on Fri and working on Mon, but that didn't seem to register.

She's also getting increasingly annoyed at me even going out for a quiet drink (once a fortnight or month) on a mid week night; and the last time I did it; got upset and angry and accused me of not caring about the relationship and not being committed to it. She even suggested we finish then but didn't follow through as such.

She's said she's not used to people in a couple going out on their own and that it's a single person thing.

On the age comment; when we haven't had sex every weekend I see her (didn't happen til recently) she said "I was wondering how a 31 year old fella could be attracted to a nearly 39 year old". I assured her otherwise but she seems to have it in her head that I couldn't really be committed and that me going out for a drink also shows that.

I'm now very conscious/a bit stressed about accepting any invitations and feel like it shouldn't be that way.

She has one friend but she also has a family and doesn't seem to go out or do much without her husband.
She was a member of another sport club that has a social aspect to it, but left (it was where she met her most recent ex). She said there was an event on and he had asked if she was going, but she didn't because it wouldn't be appropriate now she's with me. I said I didn't mind her going and that if they were all that likely to get back together, I'd have thought they would've done it in the last year or so since they've been split. I told her she didn't need to avoid events at the club due to me but she didn't seem to take it onboard.

I like her a lot and saw a future (she is open to having more kids, if possible of course) but am feeling increasingly uncomfortable about these issues.

OP posts:
Opentooffers · 24/04/2023 15:07

If I was in her shoes, I'd change grandparents with the DC evenings to a Friday if possible - somehow, I've always preferred Friday nights out to Saturdays anyway, its a happier vibe out as the work is done and still the weekend to look forward to. That way, it's time for you to be together and you get your Saturdays.
I'm betting she'd never consider this though, because her aim is to restrict you, she's shown its as much, if not more, about jealousy and insecurity, rather than frustration from missing your time together.
How many DC's does she have, and how old is her eldest? Are some getting to an age where they can look after the others while she goes out?
Circumstances have left her very restricted for years, so Im surprised after all that she'd contemplate more DC and start from scratch again ( wears me out just the thought). If you want DC in the future, I don't think this is the woman for you. If free time was her only issue, the last thing she'd want would be more DC. She has other issues though and probably sees more DC's as a way to tie you to her. Bad idea.

fruitbrewhaha · 24/04/2023 15:10

This is not going to work out.

At 5 months you should be going on nice dates. Not tied to some commitment of one day a week. Can’t she get a babysitter?

Sounds like she wants someone to keep her company on Saturday evenings. If she doesnt like you going out for a drink with your mates now imagine what she’d be like if you lived together or had kids together. She’ll have you chained up in the house.

Bin it off

Annoyingwurringnoise · 24/04/2023 15:12

Nah, bin. A few months in and she wants to control you, it’ll only get worse.

pinkyredrose · 24/04/2023 15:14

Nah, chuck this one back.

HaggisBurger · 24/04/2023 15:28

Definite red flags for me - as a single parent with older teens dating a slightly younger man with no kids.

I am definitely the more restricted of us because I have kids / pets (but not as restricted as your GF sounds). In general, yes we prioritise seeing each other when we can - because we love each other. But I’d never object to my bf going out mid-week or out with others on a night I was without my kids. Nor does he mind if I use a child free weekend to go see girlfriends who are a flight away etc etc. It’s really controlling behaviour.

This ISN’T a case of - oh she will settle once she realises you aren’t going anywhere. Instead you will look around in 2 years and suddenly realise that your social circle has disappeared and it’s just you and her …

You sound like a really decent guy. Find a less complex situation with a woman who doesn’t have these issues. They aren’t yours to fix and she’s vv unlikely to fix them.

NCforthis123456 · 24/04/2023 15:41

HaggisBurger · 24/04/2023 15:28

Definite red flags for me - as a single parent with older teens dating a slightly younger man with no kids.

I am definitely the more restricted of us because I have kids / pets (but not as restricted as your GF sounds). In general, yes we prioritise seeing each other when we can - because we love each other. But I’d never object to my bf going out mid-week or out with others on a night I was without my kids. Nor does he mind if I use a child free weekend to go see girlfriends who are a flight away etc etc. It’s really controlling behaviour.

This ISN’T a case of - oh she will settle once she realises you aren’t going anywhere. Instead you will look around in 2 years and suddenly realise that your social circle has disappeared and it’s just you and her …

You sound like a really decent guy. Find a less complex situation with a woman who doesn’t have these issues. They aren’t yours to fix and she’s vv unlikely to fix them.

I echo all this. You sound like a decent guy OP, be with someone who values you.

Urgsleepmoresleep · 24/04/2023 15:49

Me and my DP see each other during the week and once at a weekend due to distance. During the weeks is a pain to travel but we do. We have no kids, but busy work life and live 1 hr away.

on a Friday night DP has a standing hobby that ends with a few drinks in the pub with his mates. I see my friends on a Saturday night out once a month or try and do a Friday. We don’t cancel when I am out on a Saturday. We just don’t see each other. no issues as we want our own social life.

In fact due to holidays, people visiting and life we having spent the last 3 weekends together. We tend to organise our own plans and work round that. We will cancel if an event comes up etc.

but if DP started to tell me when I saw my friends or dictated what I did, or vs versus we wouldn’t be together.

she is controlling.

gannett · 24/04/2023 15:50

Just want to reiterate, like most PPs, that OP - your feelings about socialising individually are completely normal and reasonable. It's normal for people in couples to go out on their own. Don't let her gaslight you into thinking your way of doing things is skewed. If she doesn't agree with that, that's her boundary and her problem - not yours.

The most generous interpretation of her behaviour is that she's incredibly insecure and has very different boundaries to you, and to most people. Her prerogative but this is wildly incompatible.

The less generous (but more likely) interpretation is the one most posters have come to - she is controlling and manipulative, and it's only going to get worse.

chocolatehoovering · 24/04/2023 15:57

The time you have available to spend with each other doesn't match up. She only has Saturday nights free. You have other nights free as well as Saturdays. She cannot expect you to only ever spend Saturday nights with her because other events often happen on Saturdays. She doesn't have the flexibility to say "Oh, shame about Saturday, maybe we could do Wednesday instead?" which would mean you could still meet friends on Saturdays from time to time.

I don't like the sound of the way she objects to you meeting friends during the week, when she doesn't have time anyway, and saying you don't care about the relationship. What are you supposed to do? Sit around at home not seeing anyone until Saturday comes round when she has time.

No, just no, it simply doesn't work between you and you are feeling uncomfortable so listen to your gut and end it.

Livelifelaughter · 24/04/2023 17:17

I think if it's one Saturday in 5 or 6 that's fine. Your GF probably really looks forward to her time with you. But it's a little odd that she has no other friends to share the odd night you would like to meet up with your friends.
Could you not spend the day with her on Saturday and see your friends later ?
Do you think she is insecure in your relationship and is anxious, maybe gently probe and see if she needs more affirmation ?

Tarantullah · 24/04/2023 17:24

I agree with others that there shouldn't be an issue with going out with friends or have plans at weekends. Of course there's compromise in any relationship and I can see why seeing you on a Saturday makes sense to her as it's her 'night off' but that shouldn't mean you're made to feel bad if you do something else. It might be that you're at different stages of life really, not even age related but when you have a child of course they take priority, but you shouldn't have to revolve your life around them at this stage.

I'd have a think about what you want.

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