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New Man - feel weird and awkward after last night.

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EasterEggs22 · 09/04/2023 12:52

Morning all. I’ve been following the relationships board for a while now and have seen some great advice given to others, so I’m hoping you can all help me too. Hopefully this makes sense..

I recently started seeing/meeting up with a man that I met off tinder around a month ago. Very early days I know. For context, I’m 26 and he’s 32, no kids and both work full time. We’ve met around 9-10 times at various locations for walks, food and coffee dates (last night was the first time at my house) as we live over an hour away from each other, but both of us drive so it’s not really an issue. We get on very well, have lots in common, he makes me laugh, seems really kind and sweet (last night he turned up with a bunch of flowers and an Easter egg in hand). I do like him and have enjoyed spending time with him over the last few weeks.

Last night didn’t go to plan at all and I’ve woken up this morning feeling really disappointed about it. He was working until 1pm and then decided to go and play golf with a friend for a few hours afterwards. He didn’t actually get to my house until 8pm. I’d gone out to the shops and bought us some bits to have for tea, so I was just waiting around for him. By the time he arrived it was too late to actually do anything other than have food and watch a film. I wrongly presumed that he was staying the night as he didn’t arrive until late, had a long drive back and also brought a bag filled with clothes. We went up to bed around 10 and had sex for the first time. For context, I’m not on any contraceptives at the minute as I’ve been single for 3 years and haven’t had sex in over a year, so I bought some condoms yesterday just in case.

I explained this to him before we started having sex and he put a condom on. We got a bit carried away and (sorry, TMI) he took the condom off in between us having sex so I could give him a blowjob but we stupidly forgot/didn’t put the condom back on to have sex again. He pulled out to ejaculate, but I know that there is pre ejaculation to consider. He was in a panic straight afterwards, saying he was worried I might get pregnant, he’s not ready for kids yet. I told him I would buy the morning after pill (ordered it online in front of him) and said try not to worry. He told me that he’d dated/slept with women in the past who lied and said they were pregnant just to keep the relationship going, so he was worried it might happen again (I won’t lie, this comment pissed me off because it felt like he was accusing me of doing something like that). For context, I don’t want kids yet either. I actually became pregnant when I was 15 with my first boyfriend and suffered a miscarriage at 12 weeks. It changed my life and I’ve always said I don’t want kids until I’ve met the right person/been with them a long time. Even though this is very personal to me and I don’t talk about it very often, if ever, I told him as I thought it might reassure him that I don’t want children yet and that I’m not out to trap him with a baby or whatever he was thinking. This wasn’t good enough though as he just kept going on about it all night, even though I’d done everything I could (ordering the pill) in that moment.

Anyway, the rest of the night was so bloody awkward. We just lay in bed watching tv, barely spoke a word to each other, other than him asking me about when the shop would be open again so I could pick up the pill. He didn’t even touch me/cuddle me after sex, and then announced at 11 that he was going home as he needed to be up early the next morning to visit his cousin. I told him he could stay over and just get up earlier if that was easier but he said he didn’t want to wake me up really early. I think that was an excuse though just so he could get out. I’ve woken up this morning to an email from the doctor at Superdrug authorising the order but it won’t be available until Tuesday to collect. I naively thought it would be ready by tomorrow, and I’m due to go away tomorrow night for work and won’t be back until late Tuesday evening, so I have sent a message to the doctor explaining all of this. The only thing I can do is go in there tomorrow to see if I can speak to someone, and maybe try Boots as well.

I’ve told him all of this, and we have been speaking as normal today but it still feels really awkward. It’s not the way I thought the night would go, especially since it was our first time having sex. But I do understand his worries. I wonder if he feels awkward too. I’m also concerned that every time we’ve met up it’s always been during the evening for a few hours. Not that I think he’s after me for just sex, because we’ve spent time doing other things too, but he always goes out with his friends after work and then meets me in the evening for a few hours. Today he’s gone out with his friend, and tomorrow he’s decided to take an extra shift at work, and didn’t bother to ask me what I was doing/or if I wanted to do anything with him. I’ve only just noticed this because I normally work until 5pm, so meeting up at night has worked really well for us so far, but I’ve been off work this week and it’s been the same thing. I’m worried it will be like this on weekends, and I don’t want a relationship where we just see each other for a few hours at night. I want to go out and do things together during the day as well. He has been really trying this morning to keep the conversation going, but I’m worried he’s just doing that until I get the pill and then he’s going to end things. Should I get in there first and let him know I don’t think it’s going to work out, but will obviously let him know when I’ve collected and taken the tablet? I do really like him, and feel so disappointed it’s ended up like this.

Sorry, this thread is a lot longer than I expected but I didn’t want to drip feed and there are a few issues to think about.

TIA

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IDKandIDC · 10/04/2023 07:14

Rockingcloggs · 09/04/2023 15:39

Totally off topic but that sounds really boring and scheduled! Step 1) kiss step 2) blow job/foreplay step 3) penetration!

Surely it's quite common to do all these three things at different intervals and more than once?!

I see it as a three course meal. I think sex can be awkward, I like knowing what happens next and follow a clear structure. Granted, I'm not the most adventurous in bed and I just wouldn't want to do oral after penetration. I like simple, straight forward sex. Not into copying porn or anything elaborate and creative. Maybe because my favourite part is PIV so I would be offended if they wanted oral midway through fucking. Like, this should be the best part!
It can be passionate and satisfying if the man is also into this. I relax and enjoy it more when I know what comes next but I know some people like to be 'surprised' and improvise on the spot.. not me.

IDKandIDC · 10/04/2023 07:17

Moser85 · 09/04/2023 20:05

Imagine the first time you had sex with someone and they didn't want to 'waste' a condom by removing it to enjoy some more pleasure 😂One would surely only cost a max of £1 in the UK.

He'd be getting dumped for being the stingiest man alive 😂

I don't think oral is more pleasurable than PIV and if he thinks so I would be so offended, my vagina should be better than my mouth surely!

IDKandIDC · 10/04/2023 07:26

Sailingaround · 10/04/2023 04:41

you’ve expressed what I was trying to say much better, it’s everyday misogyny the fact that for some it’s a given a woman has to be on contraception to be “responsible” when condoms actually exist. And especially as this doesn’t appear to be a long term committed relationship- does no one consider STDs? Why was the man not prepared with condoms himself? Very disrespectful.

I know a girl age 21 who caught worse than a pregnancy from unprotected sex with a guy she was seeing. No idea if she was on the pill or not but she’s HIV positive now.

Well no. The sensible thing is condoms for STIs and pregnancy prevention AS WELL AS contraceptives as neither is 100% fool proof. or just abstain and have sex with a condo when it's with someone who if you got pregnant you'd be happy. Casual sex doesn't benefit women anyway. This is not about misogyny this is about protecting women. Read The Case Against The Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry.

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 07:50

Neither you nor he are ready for a sexual relationship. You like him, perhaps, but he is not committed to you and you are not committed to him. You don't like the timing of dates. That's a pretty easy thing to settle before you give yourself to some guy. Discuss with him whether you could go on a daytime date. The whole purpose of dating is to see whether you are compatible for a lifetime of love and devotion to one another. It's not to muck about in a bedroom and then experience the highest stress of your life worrying if you might be pregnant!

Sheesh! What kind of stress do you think is normal? Your stress level in a properly entered -into marriage would be significantly lower. As in, you might live til 50.

Abstinence before marriage. That's the ticket. Weed out the bad behaviour before you put your health at risk.

washinwashoutrepeat · 10/04/2023 07:59

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 07:50

Neither you nor he are ready for a sexual relationship. You like him, perhaps, but he is not committed to you and you are not committed to him. You don't like the timing of dates. That's a pretty easy thing to settle before you give yourself to some guy. Discuss with him whether you could go on a daytime date. The whole purpose of dating is to see whether you are compatible for a lifetime of love and devotion to one another. It's not to muck about in a bedroom and then experience the highest stress of your life worrying if you might be pregnant!

Sheesh! What kind of stress do you think is normal? Your stress level in a properly entered -into marriage would be significantly lower. As in, you might live til 50.

Abstinence before marriage. That's the ticket. Weed out the bad behaviour before you put your health at risk.

Wtaf have I just read????

HarrietStyles · 10/04/2023 08:09

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 07:50

Neither you nor he are ready for a sexual relationship. You like him, perhaps, but he is not committed to you and you are not committed to him. You don't like the timing of dates. That's a pretty easy thing to settle before you give yourself to some guy. Discuss with him whether you could go on a daytime date. The whole purpose of dating is to see whether you are compatible for a lifetime of love and devotion to one another. It's not to muck about in a bedroom and then experience the highest stress of your life worrying if you might be pregnant!

Sheesh! What kind of stress do you think is normal? Your stress level in a properly entered -into marriage would be significantly lower. As in, you might live til 50.

Abstinence before marriage. That's the ticket. Weed out the bad behaviour before you put your health at risk.

Respectfully - it’s not the 1950’s anymore. Personally I’ve only had sex with the same man for the last 20 years. But a woman can have consensual sex with a man for whatever reason she likes, without expectation of commitment, love or marriage. Dating isn’t just about selecting a suitable husband! Women can have sex for fun/enjoyment you know, as long as they are sensible and willing to deal with any consequences, which is exactly what OP has shown she is doing.

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 10:00

washinwashoutrepeat · 10/04/2023 07:59

Wtaf have I just read????

It appears to be a manifesto proclaiming that women who give themselves to some guy out of wedlock will die before they are 50, Washin.

Sensible policies for a sensible Gilead!

CuriousMama · 10/04/2023 10:06

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 10:00

It appears to be a manifesto proclaiming that women who give themselves to some guy out of wedlock will die before they are 50, Washin.

Sensible policies for a sensible Gilead!

I'm nearly 55 so that's not true 😂

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 10:15

CuriousMama · 10/04/2023 10:06

I'm nearly 55 so that's not true 😂

Don't advertise the fact Curious! As I'm not sure whether it was 'advice' or a warning ....

Ofcourseshecan · 10/04/2023 11:27

I hope you’re all right this morning, OP. We learn from our mistakes. If I had £1 for every mistake I’ve made I would be relaxing in the Bahamas right now.

Please ignore all snarky comments from sad gits who have nothing better to do. Take care of yourself xxx

StopStartStop · 10/04/2023 12:26

Hmm. I used to be very religious. Probably still am, but have much more/different life experience to balance it.

It's true the 'the permissive society' was another con by men to get no-strings sex from women. However, women like sex too, and therefore should have no-strings sex if it makes them happy.

A lot of women aren't happy with that, and it should be just as acceptable to be highly selective about who you take into your own body as it is to have sex with anyone you fancy.

The 'casual sex isn't good for women' argument might have some truth in it but it reminds me of the incel view that 'for every man a woman has, she's standing on a ledge two-feet higher'. So, if you've had one man, you're safe enough, you could jump down the two feet. If you've had two men, your ledge is four feet high - not too bad. Three men, six feet high, getting dodgy. Any more, you're at risk of disaster. Sorry if there's a proper way of expressing that, I got it from a man who was trying to tell me women shouldn't have sex with many men. Fuck that, I thought.

Thekormachameleon · 10/04/2023 13:03

washinwashoutrepeat · 10/04/2023 07:59

Wtaf have I just read????

WTF
FYI, I am dating right now purely to 'muck about in a bedroom'

I dont want or need love and devotion

Be gone with your ridiculous opinions

Fantasmagoricalan · 10/04/2023 13:08

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 07:50

Neither you nor he are ready for a sexual relationship. You like him, perhaps, but he is not committed to you and you are not committed to him. You don't like the timing of dates. That's a pretty easy thing to settle before you give yourself to some guy. Discuss with him whether you could go on a daytime date. The whole purpose of dating is to see whether you are compatible for a lifetime of love and devotion to one another. It's not to muck about in a bedroom and then experience the highest stress of your life worrying if you might be pregnant!

Sheesh! What kind of stress do you think is normal? Your stress level in a properly entered -into marriage would be significantly lower. As in, you might live til 50.

Abstinence before marriage. That's the ticket. Weed out the bad behaviour before you put your health at risk.

What the fuck is this?! 😆

CuriousMama · 10/04/2023 14:57

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 10:15

Don't advertise the fact Curious! As I'm not sure whether it was 'advice' or a warning ....

Oh past all that just with dh now

chaosmaker · 10/04/2023 15:39

StopStartStop · 10/04/2023 12:26

Hmm. I used to be very religious. Probably still am, but have much more/different life experience to balance it.

It's true the 'the permissive society' was another con by men to get no-strings sex from women. However, women like sex too, and therefore should have no-strings sex if it makes them happy.

A lot of women aren't happy with that, and it should be just as acceptable to be highly selective about who you take into your own body as it is to have sex with anyone you fancy.

The 'casual sex isn't good for women' argument might have some truth in it but it reminds me of the incel view that 'for every man a woman has, she's standing on a ledge two-feet higher'. So, if you've had one man, you're safe enough, you could jump down the two feet. If you've had two men, your ledge is four feet high - not too bad. Three men, six feet high, getting dodgy. Any more, you're at risk of disaster. Sorry if there's a proper way of expressing that, I got it from a man who was trying to tell me women shouldn't have sex with many men. Fuck that, I thought.

Wow, some of us like our precipices but then incels made that shit up as they haven't got the ability to connect with other humans except for the similarly deranged.

Mirabai · 10/04/2023 16:01

EasterEggs22 · 09/04/2023 16:24

Thank you @verdantverdure I hope so too.

I've just messaged him now to let him know what's going on, and he said he would have come with me if he'd known as he feels bad that I'm on my own. Bit late now lol.

Oh he feels bad now does he.

Can’t you just reply that that you don’t actually want to see him again anyway.

Why are you not telling him to do one? He’s given the whole thread the ick not just you.

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 16:10

It's amazing the stuff you all will come up with to justify mucking about.

I was acknowledging the hit the OP took in terms of stress. She's just been through a harrowing experience. Worrying she might be pregnant. Running about looking for a pill with who-knows-what side effects. Having to talk about memories about losing a child at 12 weeks. Worrying about STI. Worrying "it's not going to work out" with this guy. All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw.

To the one Thekormachamelion, you DO need love. At least, you will find out what it isn't.

Essentially, many of you are SETTLING for poor relationships for no reason whatsover.

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 16:24

I was acknowledging the hit the OP took in terms of stress. She's just been through a harrowing experience. Worrying she might be pregnant. Running about looking for a pill with who-knows-what side effects. Having to talk about memories about losing a child at 12 weeks. Worrying about STI. Worrying "it's not going to work out" with this guy.
I don't think any PP are in disagreement with this @ilikeyarn

All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw.
But WTF is this all about?
Is it a joke, or do you seriously believe that women should vet every man they choose to shag for marriage? If so - why? Are you aware that not every woman wants marriage? Or that some women just want a nice easy FWB?

Lookingoutside · 10/04/2023 16:29

Hey OP. I hope you got what you needed in the end and have had time to think about things.

Ignore the idiotic replies you’ve had. There are people on here who lose their tiny minds when a woman posts saying she’s had sex.

Good luck with everything ❤️

CaptainCorellisBagpipes · 10/04/2023 16:46

@KettrickenSmiled "All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw."
But WTF is this all about?

Is it a joke, or do you seriously believe that women should vet every man they choose to shag for marriage? If so - why? Are you aware that not every woman wants marriage? Or that some women just want a nice easy FWB?

What you are promoting (in your second paragraph) is the antithesis of the first quote, in the form of sexual objectification, which involves the reduction of a whole person person to a sexual object. Men as well as women can be objectified.

IMO this not only disrespects men, it disrespects women.

I have known women who didn't want marriage or even to live with a man, but I've never met a woman who didn't want a relationship based on love, care, trust and respect.
Just using men 'for a shag', as you put it, isn't going to create an atmosphere where this can flourish.

ApplesandPares · 10/04/2023 17:23

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 16:10

It's amazing the stuff you all will come up with to justify mucking about.

I was acknowledging the hit the OP took in terms of stress. She's just been through a harrowing experience. Worrying she might be pregnant. Running about looking for a pill with who-knows-what side effects. Having to talk about memories about losing a child at 12 weeks. Worrying about STI. Worrying "it's not going to work out" with this guy. All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw.

To the one Thekormachamelion, you DO need love. At least, you will find out what it isn't.

Essentially, many of you are SETTLING for poor relationships for no reason whatsover.

‘Mucking about’ 🤣 it’s SEX. You can say it! SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX! See, nobody died 🎉🎉🎉

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 17:37

CaptainCorellisBagpipes · 10/04/2023 16:46

@KettrickenSmiled "All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw."
But WTF is this all about?

Is it a joke, or do you seriously believe that women should vet every man they choose to shag for marriage? If so - why? Are you aware that not every woman wants marriage? Or that some women just want a nice easy FWB?

What you are promoting (in your second paragraph) is the antithesis of the first quote, in the form of sexual objectification, which involves the reduction of a whole person person to a sexual object. Men as well as women can be objectified.

IMO this not only disrespects men, it disrespects women.

I have known women who didn't want marriage or even to live with a man, but I've never met a woman who didn't want a relationship based on love, care, trust and respect.
Just using men 'for a shag', as you put it, isn't going to create an atmosphere where this can flourish.

You are welcome to your opinion @CaptainCorellisBagpipes

It's sad that you think an adult, mutually satisfying, predominantly sexual relationship precludes care, trust or respect & must always be objectifying.

Having sex mutually desired sex with a person doesn't objectify them.
Viewing them as an object does.

Fantasmagoricalan · 10/04/2023 17:39

ilikeyarn · 10/04/2023 16:10

It's amazing the stuff you all will come up with to justify mucking about.

I was acknowledging the hit the OP took in terms of stress. She's just been through a harrowing experience. Worrying she might be pregnant. Running about looking for a pill with who-knows-what side effects. Having to talk about memories about losing a child at 12 weeks. Worrying about STI. Worrying "it's not going to work out" with this guy. All for what? She needs to properly vet a man, which means vet him for marriage, btw.

To the one Thekormachamelion, you DO need love. At least, you will find out what it isn't.

Essentially, many of you are SETTLING for poor relationships for no reason whatsover.

Stop calling it ‘mucking about’ you loon.

It’s sex. Something I suspect you have a really unhealthy, guilt-laden relationship with.

KettrickenSmiled · 10/04/2023 17:39

Just using men 'for a shag', as you put it, isn't going to create an atmosphere where this can flourish.

Where are you getting the "using" from @CaptainCorellisBagpipes
You know grown ups can choose to have caring, trusting, respectful sex with each other, without falling in love or vetting each other for marriage - right?

Maybe you don't!

Fantasmagoricalan · 10/04/2023 17:43

There are some women with desperately archaic approaches to sex on this thread.

They don’t seem to realise that men and women can engage in sex, without any strings attached, purely for mutual gratification, without either using the other.

Instead these posters seem to truly believe respectful sex can only take place between a married pair, a sort of traditional approach that tends to come alongside other ‘traditions’ that leave a woman extremely disadvantaged.