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I (F27) feel like my marriage with (M29) is falling apart due to his sexual preferences

74 replies

Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 11:13

Hi guys, trying to keep this as short as possible. Want to start by saying sorry im not native to English, if you find some faults please read past them!

So, my husband of now nearly 3 years has an addiction to women. Not as in, physically cheating, but through the internet. I first noticed when my husband wanted to show me something and scrolled through his photo album which had a bunch of women pics that he forgot to delete. (This occasion was a bit after we got married) All of them thick women, big bum etc. Let's just say, I am not like that. I do think I have a beautiful body though, but I don't have the biggest bum. I didn't think too much of it at the time, don't know why. Just kept on living. Couple months later he was watching a video on Facebook and when he swiped down to the next vid I saw another girl who was being sexually there lets say. This is I think when the alarm bells started ringing and I remembered the pics he had saved.

Now, I am in no means proud of this and actually pretty ashamed of it but this is when I started to check his socials. I saw his Facebook videos were full of girls, thick girls yet again and his algorithm kept up showing. I found out you can see the videos someone has watched and it was full of that type of videos. His websearch was full too with all different kind of thick women pornsites. So did his instagram even though he tried to delete it. I felt disgusted and didn't look at it again. I had a conversation with him about it and he pretty much denied everything, sweet talked to me and I guess I just accepted that. This is around 2 years ago.

I tried to not let it bother me, still had sex in that time. I think almost a year ago I logged in again and found all the same stuff. In my mind he stopped all of that cause we were fine together, I even found old fake accounts of his, he didn't use them anymore but it was full of content like that too. Saved pictures from girls that he send to another fake account. I would say around a 100 pictures he had saved. He used that account in the beginning of our relationship but I could see it wasn't active anymore.

From this period of time we didn't have sex again. I felt disgusted, and even the thought of having sex gave me the biggest ick. It still does. I still check his socials from time to time and it still shows up the same type of content. I honestly don't know what to do. We are great friends. We have an amazing future ahead of us (a lot of upcoming plans). But I feel like I just can't get past this. I had talks with him about it throughout the last years even recent ones, told him I think he is addicted and yet he would still say he's not and it's not him watching those things.

I want to have sex with the man I married, and I want to have an amazing marriage but I think it has turned me into someone who got insecure about herself. Not also that, just knowing he has an addiction to all of that also makes me turned off. I feel like it is very childish and something he should have managed to stop throughout out marriage but he didn't.

How can we genuiely get past this? I feel disrespected and literally build a wall around myself

OP posts:
cpphelp · 05/03/2023 14:48

What's a 'thick' woman? Obese? Unintelligent? Muscled?

Genuinely no idea what you mean!

Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 14:58

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 14:48

What's a 'thick' woman? Obese? Unintelligent? Muscled?

Genuinely no idea what you mean!

Not obese, but someone with a lot of curves!

OP posts:
Jooliusreezer · 05/03/2023 14:59

Yeah, balls to the ‘addiction’.

You’re better than him. Leave him to wank himself silly in a bedsit. You’re so young still.

gamerchick · 05/03/2023 15:04

Curvy women makes more sense than thick. Weird way to describe a body shape.

Feel old me now like.

OP people will treat you how you let them. If this is a dela breaker then ditch the daft twat.

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 15:07

So he has a fetish for plus size women/women more curvy than you?

I don't see this as a massive deal to be honest. Surely no difference for having an attraction to large boobs, small/big bottoms, and a foot fetish!? It's just a fantasy.

Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 15:10

gamerchick · 05/03/2023 15:04

Curvy women makes more sense than thick. Weird way to describe a body shape.

Feel old me now like.

OP people will treat you how you let them. If this is a dela breaker then ditch the daft twat.

I guess it's a millenial thing, sorry to the people who didn't understand!

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 05/03/2023 15:11

LaPerduta · 05/03/2023 12:16

What does "thick" mean? Fat? (Genuine question.)

Also, is anyone's marriage really amazing?

Anyway, it sounds like at the very least he needs some help to sort out this addiction.

Probably 'big'?

JessieLongleg · 05/03/2023 15:12

@cpphelp @Insertnameheree

Thick doesn't mean curves you can be thin with big boobs etc. Originally thick are bodies like Serena Williams. It's American slang in the UK it meant you were stupid. Next door is curvey and put on weight due to IVF and as a dancer was very aware of it. I said you're now thick and she took such offence as never heard the American meaning lol. I used to be called thick at 6 why the bullies laughed at my wider thighs. Porn has redefined the word thick many women who used the word have no wish to now and it's been defined differently by the mainstream.

Nanny0gg · 05/03/2023 15:12

DutchCowgirl · 05/03/2023 11:39

Have you talked to him about it ever since that talk 2 years ago? You don’t talk about not having sex?
Shouldn’t you get help with talking more together, like therapy?

I think the lack of talking is a bigger red flag than watching porn.
A lot of men watch porn… it isn’t always a bad thing. I don’t think you should make it that personal. I like seeing pictures of big muscled men like Jason Momoa… and my DH looks completely different. But I wouldn’t want to trade him in a million years , I bet Jason Momoa can’t make such good lattes and help my son doing maths as my DH can😉

Why isn't it a bad thing?

Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 15:12

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 15:07

So he has a fetish for plus size women/women more curvy than you?

I don't see this as a massive deal to be honest. Surely no difference for having an attraction to large boobs, small/big bottoms, and a foot fetish!? It's just a fantasy.

I don't think having preferences is bad, everyone has his preference. Although it does hurt that I am not his ideal body type but just gotta live with that. It's more the obsession I have a problem with

OP posts:
Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 15:15

JessieLongleg · 05/03/2023 15:12

@cpphelp @Insertnameheree

Thick doesn't mean curves you can be thin with big boobs etc. Originally thick are bodies like Serena Williams. It's American slang in the UK it meant you were stupid. Next door is curvey and put on weight due to IVF and as a dancer was very aware of it. I said you're now thick and she took such offence as never heard the American meaning lol. I used to be called thick at 6 why the bullies laughed at my wider thighs. Porn has redefined the word thick many women who used the word have no wish to now and it's been defined differently by the mainstream.

I honestly have no idea, the women he watches are not obese though. I would say African bodies. Beautiful curvy, more focussed on the bum though not the boobs. I am not from the UK or USA so as far as I know thick is how to describe it. Thought it was a good thing not a bad thing

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 05/03/2023 15:15

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 14:48

What's a 'thick' woman? Obese? Unintelligent? Muscled?

Genuinely no idea what you mean!

I would have assumed big - the 'fashion' for very large bums/thighs

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 15:15

Yes I can understand that, it does seem extreme.

There's no way I'd be my husbands ideal 'type' and I'm sure he wouldn't fantasise about a woman like me.
However, I've also no idea how often is 'normal' to fantasise? Perhaps my husband does this just as often as yours, but is better at hiding it/I don't search for it?

Ultimately, if you're uncomfortable, it's worth a very honest conversation

purpledalmation · 05/03/2023 15:17

You can do better, so do it.

Insertnameheree · 05/03/2023 15:21

cpphelp · 05/03/2023 15:15

Yes I can understand that, it does seem extreme.

There's no way I'd be my husbands ideal 'type' and I'm sure he wouldn't fantasise about a woman like me.
However, I've also no idea how often is 'normal' to fantasise? Perhaps my husband does this just as often as yours, but is better at hiding it/I don't search for it?

Ultimately, if you're uncomfortable, it's worth a very honest conversation

Yes and I don't think we can be the 'perfect' type as no one is. I never felt this way in other relationships, eventhough I am not perfect ofcourse.

What i've seen is that everytime I tried to have an honest conversation he just became better at hiding what I saw. This is what makes me scared about having a honest conversation, he might be better at hiding but won't change. I really need him to change this obsession or our relationship can never be fixed again. Not sure if what i am asking is even realistic.

I do care for him, hence why I am asking here what possibilities I have, but the more comments I read the more I realize this might be something that can't be fixed

OP posts:
cpphelp · 05/03/2023 15:27

I'm not sure if it can, I'm sorry. I think you're right, that he would just be better at hiding it.

Does this REALLY need to matter this much though? It's just a fantasy. I have a fantasy that my husband knows about, but wouldn't explore, but I also admit I don't Google/view it often at all.

Surely you must side eye a good looking person, or wish you were married to (insert hot celebrity here)? I wish I was married to Jason Bateman, my husband knows this. No idea who his celeb crush would be, but it's far more likely to be the likes of Mila Kunis than Susan Boyle (me!)

The frequency is weird, but I also don't know how 'normal' that is

CharlotteRose90 · 05/03/2023 15:31

Thick women normally means curvy so big bum, big hips and thighs, big boobs etc. doesn’t mean fat just curvy.

honestly I wouldn’t stay. If my boyfriend was looking at pictures or videos of women the opposite size to me I wouldn’t like it. Clearly he has a type and you don’t want to feel self conscious with him. You can meet someone who will find you absolutely perfect.

thedankness · 05/03/2023 15:51

I don't think the body type or preference is the issue here. If the hundreds of pictures he'd saved were of women with your body type it wouldn't make him not a porn addict, with all the problems that entails. I also don't think it would be any less disrespectful to you.

Porn addicts struggle to break the addiction even when they acknowledge it's a problem and are actively trying to stop. There's no hope for a man who doesn't even admit it's a problem. Secrecy, addiction, lying/minimising, disrespecting your boundaries, objectifying/fetishizing women... these are not good things for a relationship and he can't even see it. I don't think he will change, I'm sorry OP.

DutchCowgirl · 05/03/2023 16:22

@Nanny0gg i think its ok to have fantasies for a man and woman who are in a relationship. There are lots of people watching porn and having happy marriages. It only is troublesome when it becomes an addiction, interferring with everyday life. The partner of OP is lying about it and can’t have an honest conversation about it. For me that would be more a problem then the fact that he keeps these pictures.

2bazookas · 05/03/2023 16:33

If he wanted a future with you, he would give up his "addiction". He's made it clear he has no intention of stopping and doesn't care how much it hurts you.
Please don't waste your life on him. He won't change.

You should get out now while you're still young enough to make the kind of life you dreamed of. It just won't be with him.

Nanny0gg · 05/03/2023 16:38

DutchCowgirl · 05/03/2023 16:22

@Nanny0gg i think its ok to have fantasies for a man and woman who are in a relationship. There are lots of people watching porn and having happy marriages. It only is troublesome when it becomes an addiction, interferring with everyday life. The partner of OP is lying about it and can’t have an honest conversation about it. For me that would be more a problem then the fact that he keeps these pictures.

How about the abuse within porn?

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DutchCowgirl · 05/03/2023 16:54

@Nanny0gg yes there’s is a lot of abuse in the sex-industry … if you want to take that in scope here. I don’t know if that is the kind of porn he watches. There is also porn made with consenting adults who live well from it. Even feminist -porn made by women for women. You can also watch animated porn, no actors involved at all.

Analogy:
I am a vegetarian myself, but i have friends who eat meat. And i don’t start about the abuse in meat-industry everytime they order fast food burgers.

thedankness · 05/03/2023 18:24

Not anything a woman chooses to do with her body is feminist. There is no such thing as feminist porn. Porn is by design anti-woman. It refers to the depiction of a prostituted class of women.

Elon Musk is certainly not going to make the distinction between "feminist porn" and regular porn when discussing career choices with his daughter. A prospective employer of a former porn performer isn't going to either.

Commodifying the body is always dehumanising no matter its sex. "Feminist porn" still disproportionately commodifies women's bodies.

thedankness · 05/03/2023 18:29

Also - women matter more than animals.