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Don't know how to handle this

77 replies

PearTreeParty · 25/02/2023 15:03

Relationship has been volatile for years. I've posted under various names over forever.

By anyone's standard, it's bad. DH has an unhealthy relationship with alcohol and was slightly drunk and spiteful every night for fifteen years. This manifested as shouting, name calling, sometimes throwing things at me (from hard apples to glasses of water), calling me horrific things in front of DC and generally being vile. A year ago - after a health scare - he cut back on drinking by a lot - and for six months, I got the man back I'd first met. Great.

We are now back at the awful version. Every single day I am told I am useless, the worst mistake he ever made, I repulse him, he hates me, I've ruined the kids by not being hard enough on them (and I have been soft - but I've had to counter his extreme rage) and so on. I listen to this character assassination every day and although I'm desensitized to the words, I am still aware (at some level) that I can't remember what happy feels like and I am also aware that years of being on 'high-alert' have rendered me neurotic and tearful. I hold a creative job down but struggle to function socially. We have no physical relationship anymore. This was withdrawn several years ago as a punishment and I miss sex - but not with him obviously.

I have no family at all. Noone. No parents, siblings, aunts, cousins - nothing like that. I was the only of an only - all deceased. I only have him and DC. I have a few nice friends and I've tested the water and mentioned a couple of things - there is some awareness and kindness but at the end of the day, they have lives to lead and the bottom line - as I realised today for the first time - is that I no one's priority. There is literally nobody who would have me on their radar - as you would a family member - enough to check I am ok, or go out of their way to try and support. So I have to do this alone.

Today DH is being horrendous to me and DC. We are all walking on eggshells around him and are all nervous and miserable. He has screamed in DD's face and shouted and threatened DS (he wouldn't carry out threats - but still vile).

I found a voice in me from somewhere and told him enough. He needs to leave. He laughed in my face and said 'never'.

He said he wants to make my life hell as I've ruined his life. I have nowhere to go - he is higher earner - and DD is about to sit GCSE's so I can't uproot her right now. But I can't stand another minute. I feel sick and like I am about to snap. WHat can I do?

OP posts:
TheMatriarchy · 25/02/2023 15:42

Start secretly recording him, all of it, the abuse the threats etc. Especially when he's drunk & likely has no idea or even memory of what he's doing. I read today about a woman being sent to prison for 4years because her husband had recordings of all the abuse she had meted out to him. Start building your case, when you have enough evidence involve the police/lawyers etc. You have to be smarter, better organised than these abusive creeps, that's how you get him to leave. And don't think people don't care, they do, even all these strangers here care. A counsellor might be a good idea, keep it secret, someone to talk to, help with your confidence & to get out. Do it for your children, that can keep you going even when you can't do it for you. Good luck.

rioseco · 25/02/2023 15:51

What part of the country are you OP?
There must be someone on here who could meet you for a coffee and support.

AldiorLidl · 25/02/2023 15:55

She's in an abusive relationship and ending it is potentially dangerous, she needs help from trained professionals.

rioseco · 25/02/2023 16:01

Oh and no-one on Mumsnet could possibly be a professional ?Confused

AldiorLidl · 25/02/2023 16:06

rioseco · 25/02/2023 16:01

Oh and no-one on Mumsnet could possibly be a professional ?Confused

It was in response to the bit about meeting for a coffee.

80s · 25/02/2023 16:07

Every poster so far has agreed that OP needs to speak to professionals. That doesn't stop her also getting other support from friends etc.

Dippydinosaurus · 25/02/2023 16:10

He's your DH so you won't be penniless. You'll be entitled to child maintenance as it doesn't sound like he'll be capable of 50/50 care. You'll be entitled to 50% assets (as a starting point depending on length of marriage etc). Check entitled to with your wages and the amount of rent for a 2 bed flat.

rioseco · 25/02/2023 16:11

@80s
Agreed!

Needanewnamebeingwatched · 25/02/2023 16:13

Please call the police, they will help you

Butterflywing · 25/02/2023 16:16

www.ncdv.org.uk/<a class="break-all" href="https://www.ncdv.org.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ncdv.org.uk/
It's a very quick and free service to get the help you need. What you are suffering is horrendous and they can support you, don't delay and good luck

Butterflywing · 25/02/2023 16:17

Sorrt the link didn't work but Google it ok?

BadNomad · 25/02/2023 16:18

Let the house go. Take that power away from him. It may be your childhood home, but it is your children's prison.

CleaningOutMyCloset · 25/02/2023 16:19

Leave, let him sell the house and take 50%, leave before your dc takes their GCSE's, it'll be far better for them

Butterflywing · 25/02/2023 16:21

Domestic Mental Abuse
Whenever a person is exposed to behaviour from their partner which leaves them feeling depressed or a range of other traumatic emotions, they are a victim of domestic mental abuse.

The drip-drip effect of the behaviour lasting over a period of time as the perpetrator seeks to gain and maintain total control their partner can take a long while to catch up with the victim, who may rationalise what is happening or deny such abuse is taking place.
Anyone of any age, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity or socio-economic background can become a victim.

Forms that mental, or emotional, abuse can take include:

verbal abuse such as yelling, name-calling, blaming, and shaming
isolation
intimidation
coercive behaviour
controlling a partner’s finances and access to money.
An abuser may also threaten physical violence or other repercussions if their partner doesn’t do what they want, adding to the victim’s mental anguish.

Mental domestic abuse can cause:

depression
prolonged sadness
fear
anxiety
panic attacks
loneliness
a lack of confidence or self-esteem
feelings of guilt or self-blame
a questioning sense of oneself
experiencing difficulties at work, study or in other relationships
being emotionally drained
trouble sleeping.
Though everyone reacts differently to traumatic events and so do not experience all of the above, as Victim Support says in its guidance: “It’s important to remember that all of these reactions are normal and this is not your fault – only your abuser is to blame for their behaviour.”

In the most extreme cases it can lead to the victim abusing alcohol or drugs; suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), such as flashbacks, nightmares, severe anxiety and uncontrollable thoughts; having suicidal thoughts; or making attempts at suicide.

Walking on eggshells
Even the home, where one should feel relaxed, happy, comfortable and away from the cares of the world, can become a place of great anxiety where the victim is tense, carefully watching every word or action to avoid provoking the partner into another outburst. Survivors often refer to that aspect of domestic mental abuse as walking on eggshells.

Fear of retaliation from the partner or outright denial abuse is taking place may prevent victims from seeking the help they require. Feelings of shame, embarrassment or a sense of failure as a person, especially among male victims, may also inhibit victims getting assistance.

The resulting lack of emotional support can add to the sense of fear, anxiety, depression or isolation and lead to the use of illicit drugs, alcohol dependency or even suicidal thoughts.

Longer term effects
After leaving the abusive relationship, the lingering consequences for the survivors of having been subjected to mental abuse include feelings of:

hopelessness
being unworthy
apprehension
unable to trust others
unmotivated
questioning and
doubting spiritual faith
being discouraged about the future
being reluctant to start a new relationship.
Mental, or psychological, domestic abuse can have a significant impact on the victim’s emotional wellbeing and ability to live their life as they’d want to. They may want to avoid going to or near some places because of bad memories associated with their ex-partner, for example.

Emotional Scars
It can take some time for a survivor to adjust to living in an ordinary, safe environment away from their abusive partner. The experience of having suffered mental abuse over a sustained period of time can haunt survivors for many years and rob them of the ability to live a varied life to the full. While physical injuries often heal, the harder-to-spot emotional scars take longer to fade.

Butterflywing · 25/02/2023 16:22

08009702070 is their helpline

SomePeopleAreJustBloodyStupid · 25/02/2023 16:25

This is what you must do -

ring the police, have him arrested for his appalling behaviour. You, and your children, need a nice, peaceful, happy life, without this moron. Please, please, get rid of him, for the children's sake, mainly.

Get the locks changed.
Get a solicitor (find out if you can Legal Aid), see about a divorce.

PLEASE, your children need you and they need you to be strong now.

Shadesofscarlett · 25/02/2023 16:38

You cannot just change the locks. But police and solicitor will help get him out of the house.

mindspace32 · 25/02/2023 16:42

He sounds like my ex i went to a refuge with nothing but my kids and the clothes we had on the refuge was in a town I'd never been to best thing I've done its been year now kids are grown up my ex would say the same im not leaveing bla bla bla so i left please dont stay call police or womens aid it changed my life .

GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 25/02/2023 16:44

@PearTreeParty have you spoken to any professional bodies or are you making assumptions about the help they might provide?

I was friendly with someone I worked with who was in an horrendously abusive relationship and no-one had a clue until she left him. Then she told everyone and actually spoke to women's groups about what to do. She never thought she was brave but said she started with tiny steps. She kept a diary (only took her 2 months to accrue enough on how awful he was), she rang a local women's shelter who gave her support, she contacted a solicitor and then she contacted police. By the time she contacted the police when he assaulted her, she felt confident enough to know what would happen and what the next steps would be.

You can do this @PearTreeParty small steps. Get this bastard out of your home and life Flowers

deflatedbirthday · 25/02/2023 16:47

@PearTreeParty can you disclose roughly what area you live in? Someone may have some more local advice about services close to you.

You, and your children, deserve better than this. You cannot change him. He will not change. You must make the change.

Notmyyearthisyear · 25/02/2023 16:59

PearTreeParty · 25/02/2023 15:31

Because he won't. And I can't force him.

That’s what he wants you to believe.
He feels safe, but he isn’t. He is an abuser, and it is a crime. If anyone has to leave the family home, it’s him. You just need some evidence. A call to the police. A call to WA. Speak to the safeguarding lead at your GP practice. Tell everyone. You’ve been conditioned to think it’s not going to work and you can no longer see the seriousness of his crime. He’s got away with abusing you and the children for too long. You’ve got to stop it before he distorts your perspective and confidence even more. Tomorrow is not better than today, they will both be just as painful.

PearTreeParty · 25/02/2023 17:02

I am in London

Never spoken to a professional

It's been an insidious drip feed of verbal and psychological wearing down of me and now I feel empty, useless and scared - I know this is the most volatile time (if I left) and I know what he is. I have read Lundy and the other books. He is raging 60% of the time. Pleasant 20% and playing victim 20%. I can see objectively what's happening, I just feel completely hollowed out and unable to act.

I learned recently that as well as fight or flight, there is freeze. That's me. I want to do this. I really do. I just need to have a plan. Everything feels chaotic and it makes me panic.

I can't call WA today, but I can on Monday. I will start there.

Thank you all for making me feel less alone.

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Ginger1982 · 25/02/2023 17:04

You've had a name change fail OP.

SybilWrites · 25/02/2023 17:09

OP, I agree with other posters about phoning WA. Glad you are going to do that.

I had a similar situation and I did record my H shouting at me. I spoke to a solicitor and then only had to threaten my H with an occupation order (on the basis of the recording) and he left. He was similarly refusing to leave.

I would suggest speaking to a solicitor. You are assuming all sorts of things- proper legal advice will empower you. And yes, and look into getting an occupation order. That will get him out.

DelphiniumBlue · 25/02/2023 17:13

You've had some excellent advice, and I'd like to add, look into up-skilling yourself so that you don't need to depend on him financially, to be confident that you can manage without him.

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