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husband called me frigid

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user1468655141 · 15/02/2023 12:20

im 57 years old.. married 32 years ..ive been suffering still with menopause symptoms and am currently on HRT.. recently ive been suffering with low mood, aches and pains and general tiredness. I decided to try get earlier night and cut down on alcohol but my husband is night owl and so getting to bed early isnt easy. but the thing thats bothering me the most is that im never 'in the mood'. at the end of the day when im tired and aching i just want to go to sleep but he attempts to have sex most nights. last night was same but i didnt respond and this morning he asked me if i was frigid. i dont know what anyone else makes of this but ive been deeply upset by the comment. In fact insulted. He knows full well ive not been feeling good for some time with my energy levels and general low mood. I broke my hip a year ago and my arm year before and undergone bone scan which says im borderline osteoporosis ...constant bone pain.he has a high sex drive and im finding it difficult to fulfil his constant needs at a time in my life where i thought this side would slow down. but the comment has offended me so much ..am i being over sensitive?

OP posts:
BeachBlondey · 16/02/2023 12:41

Op, I didn't think that you were man bashing, I felt that some of the responses were incredibly harsh.

However, your update gives far more context, and actually he does sound unreasonable in terms of his behaviour and lewdness. That didn't really come across (for me anyway) in your original post.

Time for a long talk, I think. He needs to understand that his behaviour is turning you off, and that the only way for some (gentle) intimacy would be if he understood your troubles more and was loving and sympathetic. I doubt you can change him though, he just doesn't sound built for it.

Would you be happier without him? Could you go it alone practically and financially?

arethereanyleftatall · 16/02/2023 12:50

That is why responses like your first one are so blooming annoying @BeachBlondey on threads like this. It's blindingly obvious to us 'older women' (aka seen a lot more life/wiser/had more experiences) that the guy was a wanker, reading between the lines of the first post.

MyriadOfTravels · 16/02/2023 12:51

Untitledsquatboulder · 16/02/2023 11:57

If you don't want to have sex with him any more - or very rarely - then you'd best tell him that and discuss your future together (or not). It may be a dealbreaker for him but there's no way you shod be agreeing to sex you don't want.
What you can't do is pretend this is a non issue.

So let me check I get that right…

If your partner doesn’t want or can’t have sex as often as you want because of ill health, the answer is … to leave. Because how can anyone be asked to stay in a sexless marriage? (Or if they stay they are AMAZING humans who put their sexual needs aside and you should be so grateful for it)

I imagine that applies to all sort of stuff like cancer and most chronic illnesses too?

No wonder that so many people just leave someone who is ill. A staggering 50% of men leave their wife after a diagnosis of brain tumour. (Less so the other way around - surprise, surprise).

billy1966 · 16/02/2023 13:01

user1468655141 · 16/02/2023 10:29

The point is being called frigid is not a nice word to call your wife and it deeply upset me. Knows full well that i havent had a good experience with the menopause and that recently my symptoms have flared up again. I have gained weight and feel bloated and my clothes dont fit which in itself makes me feel rubbish and unattractive and unsexy. On top of which i have constant bone pain and yes to a previous question i did have a bone scan 18 months ago which showed borderline osteoporosis and im due another scan in a few months. if you are in constant pain and with menopause symptoms its a struggle with everyday life and the lack of motivation.. im on HRT which is not helping me much ..im awaiting blood tests. If you felt unwell in yourself and needed more rest you would feel same way about the constant pestering at night. It was never like this before i hit the change of life. We have four grown up children and two grandchildren. I lost my dad last year after a long slow death, one of my daughters had breast cancer at age 26 and had a mastectomy a few years ago and have another with mental health issues so apart from myself have had a lot to cope with past few years. I think it would affect a lot of womenhaving to deal with not only menopause and at same time all these issues. We always had veryactive sex life ..virtually everynight which dwindled at the time i went through the change an i admit i lost interest. Ive just noticed a change in the way he speaks to me ..i was drinking way too much alcohol past years and ive recently made the decision to cut it out and get early nights to help myself get stronger and feel better but he dislikes me going to bed early. When i say early ..thats eleven o clock as he sits up very late. I want to go to bed and sleep not be woken up ..aside from the frigid comment he will walk into the room, get his willy out and say things like 'suck on this' ..or just make crude comments all the time ...i dnt like crudeness and its certainly doesnt put me in the mood. I wouldve thought that by this age his sex drive would have lessened but its stayed the same whilst i have admittedly lost interest which i can only put down to my hormone changes. My general lack of energy and the worries and events that have happened in past few years. Its not a man bashing exercise ..i came on here for some advice as its not something i can discuss with family.. i questioned am i being oversensitive?? i did confront him and he said it was a joke but i dont see being called that word as funny ...he meant to say it and then tried backtracking by making out was joking but clearly he meant it and im fed up with the constant lewdness. I have the demands of caring for an elderly mum who depends on me as she doesnt drive and lives in a remote village with no shops and limited transport service, the demands of children, looking after grandkids so im being pulled in all directions and this is another demand on me i really dont need right now.

Jesus H Christ he sounds like a truly repulsive pig.

Taking his penis out like that?

OP, that is really not normal behaviour except for really crude scummy men.

32 years...😬😳 bloody hell!

I cannot imagine the stress you have been under, particularly with your children's serious ill health.

I really think you need to look at moving to a separate bedroom for space and peace.

IMO he is an abusive bully and how you can even share space with him, I don't know.

You really have my sympathy.
I think you need to push back hard and perhaps call Women's aid for a chat.

You really don't have to accept this.

Keep posting if you wish, we are here for you.

Crikeyalmighty · 16/02/2023 13:36

Lovely - you don't want sex because to be frank why would you ? with a crude, oversexed arse who is getting on a bit and yet hasn't learned to 'read the room' - he sounds truly horrible - you are going through a tough time, and the least he can do is to understand and respect that . With many (not all ) women if they are struggling then sex is the last thing they are thinking about- some men really just don't quite get that because it doesn't suit their needs or wants. I would be weighing up your options and mentally cashing in your assets if I'm honest. Sometimes it's better to admit that this isn't for you anymore- it no longer suits

BeachBlondey · 16/02/2023 13:43

arethereanyleftatall · 16/02/2023 12:50

That is why responses like your first one are so blooming annoying @BeachBlondey on threads like this. It's blindingly obvious to us 'older women' (aka seen a lot more life/wiser/had more experiences) that the guy was a wanker, reading between the lines of the first post.

Oh come on, the detail in the first Op, did not warrant all of the vile posts calling her DH rapey etc. The second post gives so much more information. And I'm an older woman myself thanks.

arethereanyleftatall · 16/02/2023 13:47

@BeachBlondey
Nobody, but nobody, in a healthy relationship, calls their spouse frigid.

Crikeyalmighty · 16/02/2023 13:57

@BeachBlondey despite my posts , I do feel there is quite a degree of truth in your first post- I do think there are a lot of older women who genuinely are no longer that bothered about sex because whilst health and stuff comes into this- there are lots of women in marriages where they simply don't really fancy their husbands anymore or have put up with behaviour like the OPs and no longer feel inclined that way but are reluctant to split up for all kinds of reasons- often because of financial ones.if you don't have plenty of tangible assets or a high paying job still it's not that straightforward- especially given the conditions for renting these days.

Puppers · 16/02/2023 14:35

BeachBlondey · 16/02/2023 13:43

Oh come on, the detail in the first Op, did not warrant all of the vile posts calling her DH rapey etc. The second post gives so much more information. And I'm an older woman myself thanks.

It absolutely did warrant those responses. Even from the initial post alone OP told us that she was unwell, recovering from serious injuries and not feeling good, and that despite knowing all of this her husband pestered her for sex every damn night. In addition to making it difficult for her to sleep at night. And then to top it off, he uses abusive and misogynistic language.

The fact that you chose to ignore the abundance of detail in the initial OP, misrepresented the thread as “man bashing” and tried to reframe OP as someone who had just gone off sex 🙄, was a failure on your part. It was very obvious to everyone else on the thread that this was about a toxic relationship.

Suzi888 · 16/02/2023 14:37

converseandjeans · 15/02/2023 13:22

And yes it's a word used usually by teenage boys who can't get girls to do what they want.

^ Quite.

Ignore him. Man child.

WidthofaLine · 16/02/2023 15:04

I love these stealth boasting posts, I'm 103 and still wanting sex 5 times a week, maybe you should f off if you're not up to the job, or the subcurrent post of, oh older women stop fancying their partner and younger women should step into the role as it's a crying shame they still don't fancy their men.

Honestly what planet are these women on, do they live in vacuums whereby they only see what affects themselves, their own lives and their own health, such solitary answers.

A 32 year relationship, I'm sure op has the measure of this man's entitlement and how she has compromised over the years to finally have that insulting comment thrown in her face.

It's not repectful, it'snot kind and is a total insult to her involvement in a very long relationship.

butterfliedtwo · 16/02/2023 15:08

Nasty fucker.

butterfliedtwo · 16/02/2023 15:13

aside from the frigid comment he will walk into the room, get his willy out and say things like 'suck on this

Wtf is wrong with this man? That's disgusting. I would feel incredibly violently. Honestly.

I hope you can find some support in real life.

butterfliedtwo · 16/02/2023 15:14

*violated.

Crikeyalmighty · 16/02/2023 16:08

@WidthofaLine When I mentioned women not fancying their husbands etc- if I'm honest I think it's common and I doubt many much younger women would fancy them either -- unless they were loaded or in powerful positions!! I'm 61 now and to be honest I feel like I'm just not bothered about sex anymore- maybe if I was with someone new I might get a second wind -who knows- I've been honest though and said exactly how I feel

journeyofinsanity · 16/02/2023 16:17

@MyriadOfTravels there is a world of difference between a partner who can no longer have sex and one who decides the marriage is now a celibate one. That one person decides there will no longer be sex is a genuine reason to consider whether the relationship is sustainable. The relationship is changed. The other person is not necessarily going to be happy with the new arrangement.

Untitledsquatboulder · 16/02/2023 17:08

@MyriadOfTravels yes it's fine to leave a marriage if your partner doesn't want sex and you don't want to be celibate. It's fine to leave a marriage for a whole host of reasons and sex is a pretty big deal to most people.

Callmenat · 02/04/2023 16:18

Some horrific anti-men posts on here by old bitter women. Get a grip and some context. No he shouldn't have used that word but it doesn't make him a rapist. Jesus christ.

flowertoday · 02/04/2023 17:11

Callmenat · 02/04/2023 16:18

Some horrific anti-men posts on here by old bitter women. Get a grip and some context. No he shouldn't have used that word but it doesn't make him a rapist. Jesus christ.

So if the OP husband is trying to coerce and / or shame her into unwanted sexual activity by using vile language or flashing his genitals he is a ?

No you are right, not a rapist quite - just not a very nice , attractive or respectful human being. Everyone deserves better.

There is nothing anti man about any of these posts. Anti asshole perhaps.

Callmenat · 02/04/2023 17:24

flowertoday · 02/04/2023 17:11

So if the OP husband is trying to coerce and / or shame her into unwanted sexual activity by using vile language or flashing his genitals he is a ?

No you are right, not a rapist quite - just not a very nice , attractive or respectful human being. Everyone deserves better.

There is nothing anti man about any of these posts. Anti asshole perhaps.

💯 percent ridiculous

perfectcolourfound · 03/04/2023 17:17

I too have had a rough peri-menopause, as many do - although not as bad as yours has been @user1468655141

The overwhelming tiredness in the evenings, the weight gain and constant bloating, the pain I now sometimes experience with sex - it's obvious why these would reduce interest in sex.

The difference is, my DH is a decent human being. He doesn't like seeing me suffer, has asks what he can do to make things easier, encourages me to get more sleep, NEVER guilt-trips me about not wanting to have sex as often, tells me and shows me he loves me. I don't say any of that to be smug, but to show how a decent man deals with his wife's menopause. We both fancy each other as much as ever and I expect this to be a temporary situation (several years in!)

In your case, your DH would be enough to put anyone off sex. He's disgusting, vile, bullying, offensive. Why does he think you would be attracted to him? Does he honestly think that calling you names and going on at you every night will put you in the mood for sex?

You deserve better.

MumOf2workOptions · 03/04/2023 17:20

@user1468655141

I wouldn't allow anyone to say that to me or try to pressure me into doing something I didn't want to do.

That's awful especially given your circumstances. I'd be giving him his marching orders definately!!!

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