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Suicidal DH, what would you do?

67 replies

fluffykins90 · 04/11/2022 07:14

Just this really.
My DH has been in quite a depressive state, on and off, for the past 18 months. In truth his mood is always quite low. He has very low self esteem which causes him to lash out at me a lot. This has been the story of our 3 year marriage.

When his depression was at its worst I tried to get him to go to the Dr's. He did eventually and was prescribed an anti depressant that he took for 2 weeks before stopping. He has very recently started counselling which was me again pleading with him to do it. Mostly as he clearly isn't a happy person and because this in turn means he talks to me very nastily sometimes. I said I wasn't happy continuing our relationship unless things changed.

He is thinking of quitting counselling now, 5 weeks in as he doesn't see it will help. He is now in a suicidal state again (he never really tells the GP or anyone how bad he feels) and he asks me questions about what I will do when he is no longer here. He gets into bad moods and when I ask him if he will stay in as him going out, late at night, in his head space worries me, he attacks me. He says I'm not supportive. I honestly try my best but at this point I don't know what to say or do. Last year I also let his parents know what the real situation was as I knew he was lying to them about taking his antidepressants. And he acts like he's totally fine and happy with everyone else.
I felt they should know as I thought it might help. And frankly I felt very isolated and scared it would blindside them if something happened.

My own feelings are that I find suicidal talk very upsetting as I spent my childhood with a mentally ill mother who would threaten suicide. I then went on to have two boyfriends who said they'd kill themselves if I left. My dad also after splitting with his longterm partner had to be talked down from suicide. My DH never revealed he had spent most of his adult life having depressive moods and suicidal idealisation until we were married. He always came across quite steady which was what I liked about him.

I dont think my DH is the same as my exes, but it does feel like he expects me to manage him. We talk and try to figure stuff out but he's very closed off to ideas and frankly I'm not equipped to deal with him. . He won't seek help, he is getting nasty with me telling me to go fuck myself the other night.
I don't want to be around a suicidal person. I grew up and cultivated and healthy life for myself. I've always been very optimistic, happy and easy going. But now I feel like I'm a kid again, stuck worrying about if and when someone I love will come home.

He is fully aware of his mental health, and also my past and its implications in the current situation.. I went to counselling last year and spent a lot of it trying to figure out how to be less triggered by him so I could be more helpful and supportive.

He is very familiar with MH due to his past work yet can't seem to see he is really unwell. Then I wonder (through knowing him) if it is more about attention, an excuse to snap at me and be derogatory and a complete inability to see the good in anything. I know it sounds awful but sometimes I think is he suicidal or just a horrible person (I absolutely don't think this holds true of genuinely suicidal people just to say) . I know it is not everything, but we have a good, very fortunate quality of life. But no matter what happens his glass is empty.

I get its very hard to say as depression can look like this too... But I also don't feel it is okay for him to attack me because he's feeling low.

I guess... What would you do? Has anyone been in this place? Feeling very alone with this right now.

OP posts:
KangarooKenny · 04/11/2022 07:17

I’d leave him to save yourself.
He is not taking the help he needs, and that’s his choice. But don’t waste your life letting him drag you down.
Very often, if they are threatening to do something, they won’t. And if he does, that’s his choice too.

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 04/11/2022 07:18

Sorry you’re going through this. What kind of counselling is he having? He obviously has some underlying trauma so I’d recommend psychotherapy with a trauma aware therapist.

Glad you’ve sought your own help too. Don’t be blackmailed by him. You can support him, but his feelings and behaviour are his responsibility. Ultimately if he’s abusing you or if you’ve decided the relationship has run it’s course you’re allowed to do what you want to do.

IntrovertedPenguin · 04/11/2022 07:20

I'd leave. You shouldn't be held accountable for someone else's feelings and action's especially if they won't help themselves.

YoSofi · 04/11/2022 07:20

I would also leave.

He may well be suffering with his mental health, but I do wonder if he is using it as a way to control you? You say he deliberately says things to trigger you regarding what happened in the past, or makes you worry by going out late at night?

Either way, the help is available to him and he’s choosing not to engage. You cannot force him, and he is not your responsibility.

You need to save yourself first.

determinedtomakethiswork · 04/11/2022 07:21

I think the relationship has run its course. He's not prepared to help himself. He's nasty to you. I wonder whether some of this is due to what you've told him about your past. He knows what distresses you more than anything else and he's pulling that trigger.

Soontobe60 · 04/11/2022 07:23

My DH suffers from depression - he has never threatened to kill himself if I leave him or been awful to me. You need to separate the illness from the personality. If he has depression, he needs to take the medication prescribed by his GP for a good length of time. Refusing to do so is not a good idea.
He would appear to have a controlling personality and is using the threat of suicide to control you. That’s not ok. You, indeed no one, is responsible for his mental health. It’s up to him. I would give him an ultimatum - either take the medication as prescribed and work on his attitude towards you, or the relationship is over.
You need to put yourself first. Take care x

Fraaahnces · 04/11/2022 07:25

Leave. Call the police for a welfare check every single time he threatens suicide. He is controlling the narrative (getting away with being a nasty prick) by threatening suicide. You can’t be his adult. Go. Put on your oxygen mask first. Save yourself.

winteriscoming2022 · 04/11/2022 07:26

If you decide to stay ( which I wouldn't advise) each and every time he actually says the words that he is wanting to end his life, you pick up your phone and call the police. Tell them what he has said and they will act appropriately. I'd imagine you wouldn't need to do this more than once. I'd let him know in advance that you will be doing this
It's impossible to stop someone ending their life if they're choosing to do so
It could be your husband has a MH condition, he could be faking, he could have a disordered personality but he certainly doesn't appear to be wanting to feel any different

CrystalCoco · 04/11/2022 07:27

Sympathies OP, my DH suffers depression and I have also questioned in the past whether it's the depression or if he's just a massive A-hole.

If I had the means to, I'd be outta here.

I came across a great saying on here for the first time earlier this week and it really resounded with me:
"Don't set yourself on fire to keep someone else warm"

Wishing you the best!

almondflake · 04/11/2022 07:28

I agree with @KangarooKenny ,he has been offered lots of help and support and is choosing not to take it . You really do need to make a decision on your future, do you want to live like this in the shadow of his mental health for the rest of your life or do you want your own needs and wants met ?
He will do what he wants in the long run so you need to protect yourself and your own mental health . I would seriously consider leaving at least for a time to gather yourself and get back to the strong person you undoubtedly are .
He may have mental health issues but ultimately he's a lying and manipulating to keep you in his life which isn't good for you . Flowers

TheUsualChaos · 04/11/2022 07:29

Leave. You've tried and tried to help him and he is just using you as a verbal punch bag. Sad as it is that he isn't getting better, it's no life for you and you deserve to have a happy life not being dragged down for years and years.

Bestofthree · 04/11/2022 07:29

He heoodwinked you. Leave! Do not waste mkre years of your life worrying an managing other people - you will regret it. He also has displayed no motivation to get better. He will hopefullu do it in his own time independently. Leave!!! He will make it hard and guikt trip you though - 1000%

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 04/11/2022 07:30

Not the direct same but my father was a depressive alcoholic. As an adult I have a choice, as a child I didn’t. No way in hell would I put my self in a situation to be around a depressive or an addict or anyone that triggers that miserable time in my life. You only get 1 life, you aren’t responsible for his- you deserve to be happy.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/11/2022 07:30

Leave and save your own self from a further life of misery. He is also abusive and the only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is none. You are not a rehab centre for such a badly raised man.

Your own childhood set you up good and proper to be with men like your now H also.

Bananalanacake · 04/11/2022 07:30

When you say he attacks you do you mean verbally or physically. Either way it's best to leave,

Howmanysleepsnow · 04/11/2022 07:30

I’ve been there. DH is on antidepressants now and much, much less irritable and likely to lash out at me verbally. He never used suicide as a control measure though. If your DH is threatening that if you leave, that would be a very different thing. If he isn’t I’d assume the irritability is another symptom.
counselling doesn’t seem the best choice, other therapies may be much better, but I think that he probably would benefit from medication to get him to the point where he’s capable of engaging with his own recovery. The fact he’s suicidal says he doesn’t want to go on feeling like this: antidepressants are a much less drastic way of choosing to not go on feeling like this. Maybe suggest them to him framed like that, but prepare him to commit to 5 weeks of meds before any change.

Clymene · 04/11/2022 07:31

I think the person who needs therapy is you. You keep repeating the same patterns and being attracted to people who abuse you in the same way your mother did.

This man is abusive. You need to leave. You cannot fix him or anyone. The only thing any of us can ever do is change the way we react to someone's behaviour. Make that change. Put yourself first. Be your own main character

devildeepbluesea · 04/11/2022 07:32

Sorry, but I’d leave too. In fact, I’ve been in your shoes and I did leave.
ExDH is still here.

grey12 · 04/11/2022 07:33

You don't mention children. If so you should definitely leave before that happens 😕

SimonaRazowska · 04/11/2022 07:35

What an awful man

it’s a kind of abuse you are facing

so sorry you are going through this

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/11/2022 07:36

People with depression are no less immune to abusive behavior than people without depression. However, when an abusive partner has depression, things get complicated.

Your partner may use the same tactics as other abusive people, but they may attempt to obscure the fact by using their depression as an excuse. After all, it’s not abuse if they’re doing it because of their mental health, right?
Wrong.

Depression doesn’t lead to abuse, and not all people with depression are abusive. It’s more accurate to say that sometimes, abusive people also have depression. If people with depression are capable of controlling behaviour, then they are also culpable for it.

If you feel responsible for holding your man’s life together, it’s because he made you feel that way.

daretodenim · 04/11/2022 07:36

Leave. You're not obliged to stay out of fear for what he'll do.

You're only questioning this behaviour because you've unfortunately got a history of people close to you behaving in similar ways. Most unfortunate. It's normalised it's in some ways to you.

Do not put yourself through this. Leave, get therapy like has been said.

And also, like also said, call the police each and every time he threatens suicide. It's not something you can solve. You need to let other people do their jobs. And also cut off any chance for him to continue his manipulation of you.

DivorcingEU · 04/11/2022 07:38

AttilaTheMeerkat
Absolutely this!!

bibliomania · 04/11/2022 07:41

Why would you stay? He's not taking responsibility for himself and isn't suddenly going to change. Leave before you feel fully trapped.

Ruth0505 · 04/11/2022 07:58

Mental health is not an excuse to treat people like shit. You are not a life coach. You don't want to become a shadow of your former self. Your relationship is supposed to improve your quality of life; not worsen it. Leave while you can Flowers

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