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I let my wife kiss my best friend and still can't get over it

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mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:00

It's a long story and something that's stayed with me for over 10 years. I want opinions on if this can be cheating...

In 2010, I went to a nightclub with my wife and best friend. We were all tipsy as we arrived but not blind drunk; we all knew what we were doing and could chat and dance perfectly fine.

About an hour in, my wife and friend went to buy drinks at the bar. It was busy so I wasn't surprised it took them a while to return but did wonder if they'd got chatting and didn't return as quick as they could. Anyway, I noticed how much wife was flirtatiously dancing around my friend and knew she still fancied him (when we first met, she said he was a good looking guy), but I trusted my wife and seen her like that with both sexes over the years prior so it didn't really bother me. We then go outside for a break and my wife looks at my friend and says "Go on then, ask." He was sheepish but said "Can we kiss?" I was a bit shocked but, being drunk, I was indifferent to it and hadn't really given thought about the consequences. I said casually something like "Go on then."

I watch my wife and friend kiss on the lips for less than a second. I was expecting more seeing as they made a big deal over it and reactively said "Is that it? Come on use tongues!"

So I then watch 5 to 10 seconds of kissing with tongues, my wife turning her head as they kiss, fully committed. I initially get turned on but then reality kicks in so I said "OK. OK. OK. Enough now. STOP." A second or two later and they do. My friend looks at her and goes "Ooh" as if to say he really enjoyed that. My wife blurts out "My f*nny twitched. And I could feel your erection on my thigh as we kissed." These words from my wife actually hurt me. And I showed my annoyance.

I walked away and she followed sheepishly and tried to reason with me and apologise (I think). It took me a good hour or so to come to terms with it but let the night continue til 6am where we'd danced a lot and were in good spirits. My mate had disappeared for a couple of hours after what happened as he obviously felt guilty and in harms way.

Despite my clear annoyance or uncomfortable stance earlier in the night, my wife obviously wanted my friend to be with us and said "You're coming home with us." I should have said a firm no, straight away but I didn't. I needed to think it through while walking to the train. The reason I hesitated was maybe I should let it play out to test my wife's committed to our marriage (she never showed any signs of straying before). When I saw my wife rest her head on my friends shoulders on the underground station while waiting for a train, I knew my feelings and sobered up completely so I said "P, sorry but you can't come home with us." He was totally fine, acknowledged it with a gesture and didn't say anything.

After all these years, I have moments where this tears me up. I've had reassurances from my wife in the past but I have suspicions something more might have happened in the blur of that night.

What do you think?

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mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:32

MessyBunPersonified · 26/09/2022 13:30

There was a lot of unnecessary detail in there for being "from the heart and quickly"

I am pedantic and like to ensure no detail is missed out. I edited it four or five times before posting.

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MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:32

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:28

Well if it wasn't from the heart and quickly typed out on my phone and it was a story then yes, I'd have given it more care. Blimey!

Probably more to do with only having 1 available hand. 🤮 @mnhq please delete this creep

Claritybythesea · 26/09/2022 13:32

@Octomore women do talk like that. In stories written by men lol

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:33

AriettyHomily · 26/09/2022 13:22

I hope you're not aiming for a career in erotic fiction!

Obviously not. 🙄

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MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:33

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:32

I am pedantic and like to ensure no detail is missed out. I edited it four or five times before posting.

So it was written quickly but edited multiple times. 🤔

MessyBunPersonified · 26/09/2022 13:34

I am pedantic and like to ensure no detail is missed out. I edited it four or five times before posting.

Well if it wasn't from the heart and quickly typed out on my phone and it was a story then yes, I'd have given it more care. Blimey!

Which is it?

Octomore · 26/09/2022 13:34

OK, let's do a roll call... hands up any woman who has ever said, or could envisage herself saying, to a man: "I could feel your erection on my thigh as we kissed"

Women react to erections in many ways, and sometimes they comment on them. But, hand on heart, I cannot envisage a woman saying that. I just can't.

It's got nowt to do with being coarse, and everything to do with believability.

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:34

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:32

Probably more to do with only having 1 available hand. 🤮 @mnhq please delete this creep

I think that's your dirty mind. Don't apply your ways or rules on everyone else.

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MessyBunPersonified · 26/09/2022 13:35

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:34

I think that's your dirty mind. Don't apply your ways or rules on everyone else.

Maybe that poster isn't your typical woman. One of the lads.

SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · 26/09/2022 13:36

Never did a human woman utter those words. The correct phrase is fanny gallops.

Octomore · 26/09/2022 13:36

MessyBunPersonified · 26/09/2022 13:35

Maybe that poster isn't your typical woman. One of the lads.

Yes, those lads who talk about their fannies twitching. I'm always coming across those.

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:37

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:33

So it was written quickly but edited multiple times. 🤔

Yeah, I initially wrote quickly from the heart. Read it through and, being the pedantic type or guy who likes all the details edited it.

People here would easier believe the earth is flat than consider people arent all the same.

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mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:39

gretr · 26/09/2022 13:13

If you can’t get over this, then it’s best to go your separate ways. Sounds like a stupid drunken night, but if you can’t let go, it’s not fair to carry on as everyone is then just miserable.

We are great together. It's just me and my stupid jealous head that's the problem. I post away from her because it's my concern not hers or ours.

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MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:42

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:37

Yeah, I initially wrote quickly from the heart. Read it through and, being the pedantic type or guy who likes all the details edited it.

People here would easier believe the earth is flat than consider people arent all the same.

I would be more likely to believe the earth is flat than believe any woman would ever say the words ‘my fanny twitched’. 🤣

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:42

Opentooffers · 26/09/2022 13:28

It's a drunken night 12 years ago, so unless you have reason to believe that things have carried on since that night, you are well overdue letting this go.
They were wrong to ask in the first place, but you were wrong to egg them on so a quick peck became more. You could go round the houses with which blame is biggest, but that is pointless.
If in the last 12 years she has given you no suspicions, then you are the one with the problem. So decide, does the 12 years since mean nothing? Your being stupid if it doesn't.
Are you still friends with him? I'd guess by now he's probably had many significant relationships and that night means very little to him, as it probably does to her. There's only you making a big deal of this - unless they have been fawning over each other for the last dozen years, which I doubt somehow.

Thanks! You're so right. What am I like!

💥

I've held on to this for too long. I'm an idiot. I will try to let this go.

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mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:42

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:42

I would be more likely to believe the earth is flat than believe any woman would ever say the words ‘my fanny twitched’. 🤣

You must come to SE England to meet my wife.

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mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:43

Octomore · 26/09/2022 13:36

Yes, those lads who talk about their fannies twitching. I'm always coming across those.

Have you ever been accused of being a troll?

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madasawethen · 26/09/2022 13:45

My grade is Fail

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:45

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:42

You must come to SE England to meet my wife.

In your shit erotic fictional book, I would accept this offer wouldn’t I? 😂😂😂

MessyBunPersonified · 26/09/2022 13:46

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:45

In your shit erotic fictional book, I would accept this offer wouldn’t I? 😂😂😂

🤣🤣🤣 your boobs would stand to attention as his wife talked about her twitchy fanny 🤣🤣

Octomore · 26/09/2022 13:47

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:43

Have you ever been accused of being a troll?

Sorry, what was that?

I was so distracted by the sensation of my pert, rounded breasts against my clothes that I forgot what you asked.

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:47

MinimumMadness · 26/09/2022 13:45

In your shit erotic fictional book, I would accept this offer wouldn’t I? 😂😂😂

Hilarious. 🙃😆

Troll.

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JamieNorthlife · 26/09/2022 13:54

LTB ? ? ?

Mondayagain123 · 26/09/2022 14:02

I've read some shit in my time but this classic.

waterlego · 26/09/2022 14:09

mrsheltere · 26/09/2022 13:42

Thanks! You're so right. What am I like!

💥

I've held on to this for too long. I'm an idiot. I will try to let this go.

You’ve been giving this headspace for TWELVE YEARS?

And now an MNer has suggested you let it go and this seems to be some sort of lightbulb moment for you?