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Should I warn her of abusive family member?

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ConcernedSIL · 25/09/2022 10:05

My BIL is a very 'tricky character' as his mum would say, over the past 15 odd years he's gone through a string of relationships that have ended very poorly.

We have supported some of his ex's over the years and know that he has been emotionally and financially abusive. I personally believe he is purposefully targeting vulnerable women to fund his ongoing opioid addiction (the addiction is a fact - the targeting more of a grey area).

To the best of my knowledge he has never been physically abusive but has taken £1000s from each woman, forced them to sign expensive car leases, lend him money, moving into their house as a cocklodger etc. He has done this by destroying their confidence and through a web of lies (eg. he doesn't live with his elderly mum... she lives with him etc) as well as manipulating them (threatening suicide etc.).

As you can imagine we don't see eye to eye but we know all about his goings on through DHs mum and see him when our paths cross at her house. MIL loves him dearly and is terrified of losing him to either an OD or suicide, she believes he's any minute away from turning his life around.

Now to our current issue...

There's a new woman in his life. We've looked at her social media and for the first time there's young children involved (including a baby!). Me and DH have young children of a similar age and it looks to us like she's recently separated from her partner.

His classic 'take out loans to wine and dine and look wealthy' wooing technique is in full swing. He's asked us (DH, children, me and rest of family) out to dinner next week to meet her AND her children, the thought of sitting at a table and looking this woman in the eyes makes me feel sick.

Should someone warn her of the impending shit storm rolling into her and her children's lives? Or should I keep my nose out of other people's business? How would I even do it, DH would support either way but MIL would be furious if she found out we got involved.

OP posts:
DFOD · 26/09/2022 07:37

Any chance the baby is his?

ColdCottage · 26/09/2022 08:43

I would do as you plan (anonymous with all the details) but I would also send a copy to her family members too so they can keep an eye on her too.

Hoppinggreen · 26/09/2022 08:48

Do not send a message or anything that could prove what you have done.
It sounds like he’s perfectly capable of presenting you in a negative light (bitter jealous etc) and you wouldn’t be believed bit would face all sorts of shite from the family anyway.
Find a way to speak to her so if she does react badly (very likely) you can deny everything

Quitelikeit · 26/09/2022 08:58

What is he addicted to? Cocaine or heroin?

does he work?

DFOD · 26/09/2022 12:12

Can you get one of his many ex’s to back you up or make contact?

Bookworm20 · 26/09/2022 14:29

TheYearOfSmallThings · 25/09/2022 13:20

I would tell her and I would not do it anonymously because she deserves to know that the warning is coming from a member of his family who has known him well for years and will not leave children in his company even for five minutes.

If I were her I would listen to that, especially in a very new relationship, whereas an anonymous message could be brushed off as malicious.

This. If you can get her on her own, just say you need to talk to her privately, its about BIL and there is something she should know, considering she has children.
That will give her enough of a hesitation about him to either meet with you seperately or she'll be more willing to talk with you that evening somewhere.

Let her know to please not say you have been the one to tell her this. explain his drug addiction and the fact the money he is wining and dining her on is not his. Add in that you know he will be love bombing her/making her feel like the most amazing woman in the world/discussing the future already probably.

Then tell her you are saying this because she has dc. And that you and his own brother won't leave him alone with your dc for even 1 minute.

Perhaps this will be enough for her to look into things without he rose tinted specs, as she'll actually then be looking for the red flags and has a better chance of seeing them.

If she leaves him and it all comes out with MIL that you spoke to her, just stand firm and say you didn't say antyhign that wasn't true. And would she prefer that her darling son takes yet another young woman for a ride and ruins their life, along with innocent children. Its one thing if its just the woman, but these are kids. She needs to perhaps have someone open her eyes to this too.

PussGirl · 26/09/2022 16:16

He is using his "fragile mental health" as a stick to beat everyone with, which is really not on.

Highly unlikely he'd actually kill himself, I suspect.

I'd tell her myself, face to face.

NoPrivateSpy · 27/09/2022 08:00

Does your MIL not know the full extent of his previous relationships and addiction?

Time to sit her down I think. You say she is lovely. If she really is, she won't want a young family to get hurt. And ultimately harm her beloved son who will just feed his addiction and end up in an even worse place. Why has no one mentioned rehab?

Then your DH needs to speak with his brother.

I really admire your morals but this isn't your circus. His family need to step up here. You will just be seen as meddling or vindictive. Your intervention will be explained away.

oldstudentmum · 27/09/2022 10:04

If u do it anonymously she will think disgruntled crazy ex.
Tell her the facts names of previous victims. There will be a fall out but could you honestly stand by and see children being affected.

UserError012345 · 05/10/2022 18:48

Interested to see if you did & how it went OP.

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