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A nice guy but...

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NorthAngel · 17/09/2022 07:15

Hello all,

I have posted before about this but now thinking I need to do something (but also wondering if I'm just being paranoid).

A little bit of history...

I left a long marriage 2 years ago. Nothing wrong with him or me but the marriage was sexless (a long time), lacked affection/intimacy, lacked connection and just stale. I eventually snapped. I feel bad about it but know, deep down, I have done the right thing.

I'm 50 btw and still told I'm attractive - even the women at work tell me.

Anyway, I'm pretty lonely at home. My eldest lives with his dad mainly (he is over 18) and the youngest is at her peak, awkward teenage years so she avoids me a lot and stays in her room. I work in a senior manager role in a very stressful environment with insufficient staff.

I started with OLD a while ago just to see if I could meet someone. Most have just been after a shag and when I wouldn't give they suddenly went silent or deleted me. Then I came across this guy. Lives in the same part of the UK but 35 miles north. We started chatting on Tinder and that went on a while before we moved to WhatsApp.

Anyway, we get on quite well and we both are at similar levels on our jobs. He, however has never married or had children. He is close to his sisters and their children which is lovely as they seem to be a very close family from what I'm picking up. He'll send me photos of the family and explain who is who and what they're doing in life etc. Unlike him, which is why my loneliness is bad, I don't have any family apart from my children. My parents and brother are RIP. I feel completely alone and, since I announced my divorce, my friends also seem to avoid me out of awkwardness.

The man in question is interesting, intelligent and well spoken. We share a lot of the same views on life etc. He doesn't ever seem to get sexual though. I do think he's a bit shy in that area but my husband was like a dead fish in that area and I don't want the same. We'd been chatting daily for a few months but we eventually met up a few weeks ago and spent a day in a city - park walk, lunch etc. We sat in his car afterwards a bit when he brought me back to my car. Chatted, listened to music. That's it. He never made a move on me at all. He was very polite tbh. And, I enjoyed the day. It was actually nice to be with a man who was enjoying my company rather than staring at my body etc. Anyway, I decided to kiss him when it was time to go and wow - he was passionate! He actually blushed when I got hold of his hand after I asked him if he liked that. We kissed for a good half hour which was lovely but I left it at that (obviously).

When I got home he messaged immediately to say he'd really enjoyed the day. He said he'd wanted to approach me but he thought I hadn't wanted to. He said he wanted to meet again.

However, he is so busy with his job (he ends up writing reports at home) and works shifts so opposite to my core hours role. I've said to him to let me know when he wants to do something and still nothing. But, he continues to message me daily. He doesn't phone me either.

I don't think there is anything dodgy going on. He does seem like a really polite man. I actually said to him last week that he didn't seem that interested in me. He asked what made me say that. I said he hardly says much and hadn't said anything about arranging another date. He just said he's enjoying getting to know me and wants to take it slowly plus we're both busy in FT jobs. He has told me was too cautious about getting married and regrets it.

I've decided to let him go next weekend if he makes no attempt to make time for me as this doesn't sit right with me.

I'm not being unreasonable am I?

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 21/10/2022 19:38

I’m feeling pretty crap right now.

I decided to just come out with it and ask him what his intentions were towards me as I felt we were just messaging as making no progress (to meet up again). He’d been messaging me like a friend.
He replied that he’d enjoyed our time in London, we’d given it a go, and that we had a lot in common but not quite aligned! He said he felt the fact we were 45 mins apart was difficult for dating and that it would cause stress! We weren’t that far apart (I could still go to my job from there) and once my youngest goes to uni I’d move (obviously these are plans at the back of my mind).
He said he thought I was lovely and had a lot going for me but that I should find someone on my doorstep.
I just said back that I’d move anywhere for the right man (which I would) and said I was still feeling lonely, which is why I said something tonight. He had promised to phone me last night and didn’t. He acknowledged and apologised for my frustrations. I just said I think we should call it a day and I wished him well. I said I felt it wasn’t making progress. We’d been chatting since June. He replied back that he hates goodbyes, told me to take care and watch what I’m doing and put a kiss at the end!

He was a really nice, polite guy and I just feel he didn’t give it the chance to progress or give time to get to know me.

Ive met a few men on OLD now and this one seemed nice. Feeling really deflated and incredibly lonely!! What am I doing wrong? I’m fairly attractive for my age, a lovely person, very passionate and have a good career behind me!

Feeling sad 😢

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 21/10/2022 19:41

Forgot to say that I’ve deleted the WhatsApp conversation and the link and deleted his phone number from my contacts. I haven’t blocked him though. I have also left his messages on the dating app too. I won’t contact him (I don’t know his number now anyway) but he can me if he chooses to - I won’t feel the same though

OP posts:
Pineappleskies · 21/10/2022 22:47

Sorry you're feeling a bit low.

I'm not sure truly that you knew him well enough to know his faults and shortcomings. Your few encounters have probably made you see the potential without having enough information on his faults.

Although you feel sad, I don't think you've missed out on that much with him.

A very, very generous reading of him would say he was unenthusiastic, non-commital, vague and not particularly interested in anyone's feelings but his own. Is that what you want?

You've put a lot of effort and enthusiasm and thought into this. If he can't be bothered to match that, it's not a reflection on you.

I suspect he had a lot more issues, habits, ingrained beliefs and backstory than you found out.

Embrace this cosy, soothing time of year for yourself, at least for a while, til time boosts your confidence up again...he seems to have dented it, and no one should be allowed around us if they do that.

Alcemeg · 22/10/2022 10:06

Ah, that's disappointing OP. Sorry to hear that you feel so deflated and lonely. It's that time of year when those feelings tend to intensify.

I know this is a cliche, but can you start some new hobbies that get you out? Something that genuinely interests you, so that if you happen to meet someone it's an added bonus?

I met my now-DH at a music festival. (There are so many interesting smaller festivals going on around the country and every one of them has a different "flavour.") By the time we met, I'd been going on my own to festivals for about 4 years and having a brilliant time.

Try and find something on a bigger scale than just some small local hobby group where the weirdo who sits at the back will make a beeline for you 😉

Whether or not you get out and start something new, just to feel better in yourself I'd recommend finding some kind of exercise program on YouTube and following it. There's so much good content available free, such as Enrich Your Life Fitness, MVMT with Cailin, Move with Nicole, etc etc etc... You might already make time for fitness, but if not, a regular routine will do wonders for your mood.

Good luck! Flowers

Alcemeg · 22/10/2022 10:22

P.S. I was in my mid-50s when I started going to festivals alone. Loneliness is a state of mind - mine, by then, was very much "I'm glad I don't have some wanker in my life to spoil this for me" and open curiosity about meeting all kinds of folk!

DoomsdayPrep · 22/10/2022 14:27

North Angel, how much personal information have you given him?

Did he ask many questions or lead you into conversations about your finances, for example? Property ownership, divorce settlement, inheritance, property values, etc?

So sorry.

mondaytosunday · 22/10/2022 15:38

Jeez @DoomsdayPrep!
I know a guy, one of my late husband's best friends. Really kind, generous, close to his family, fun to be with, a gentleman. Totally asexual. I know he's had a couple of very short relationships but he's been 98% single in the 20 years I've known him. He has friends, male and female, travels with them, etc etc. But he'll never have a committed relationship. He's happy how things are. Free to do what he wants. Maybe your man was like that - it really isn't you, it's him!

DoomsdayPrep · 22/10/2022 17:53

Yeah, "jeez" is how I felt when I realised a guy I know is in fact a serial identity thieving con artist posing as a charming mild mannered eccentric. He uses dating apps to target women of a certain type. He uses alleged "asexuality" as part of his cover story. He has a verifiable public life but he also scams old ladies and vulnerable middle aged divorcées. It turns out hot & cold shifts, confusing disappearance/distancing & stringing along are common tactics of men like these. They need time to gather intel and to juggle the often multiple women. I'm not suggesting this man is doing the same, but any lonely woman embarking on a campaign of OLD might want to read this book and be open to the possibility of worst case scenarios. The guy I know carries a credit card skimmer and steals shredded paperwork from his lover's bins.

Certain things in the OP's earlier posts resonated and caught my attention. Sorry, OP. Hope he's actually lovely and realises he can't let you get away.

Fake, by Stephanie Wood

amp.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/20/fake-by-stephanie-wood-review-unmissable-tale-of-love-lies-and-revelation

giffyp · 25/10/2022 08:30

In my opinion the beginning is when it’s exciting and you frantically make and snatch time to see each other, although he sounds lovely do you think he’s going to be enough for you? Like you I only have my children and experience loneliness so I know if I choose a relationship I am going to need time from them. Good luck with whatever you do xx

giffyp · 19/12/2022 10:11

Do people change?? I was in a relationship for coming up for 4 years, it was good in lots of ways but bad in others he suffered with his MH and at times that was hard, and he would have a few drinking binges, he was very selfish and has and still is spoilt by his family even at 53, the relationship wasn’t really progressing anywhere, he ended it 7 weeks ago saying he loved me but was struggling to give me what I wanted…. At first I was distraught but I left it I didn’t get in touch I began to feel better and then last week he contacted me saying he couldn’t live without me and would do anything get married move me in ect anything rather than lose me, he said he was going to be strong and change, it’s funny I don’t think I want it anymore but I’ve fallen back into it, and now feel trapped I don’t believe people do change and I think this is the biggest problem! Xx

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