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A nice guy but...

110 replies

NorthAngel · 17/09/2022 07:15

Hello all,

I have posted before about this but now thinking I need to do something (but also wondering if I'm just being paranoid).

A little bit of history...

I left a long marriage 2 years ago. Nothing wrong with him or me but the marriage was sexless (a long time), lacked affection/intimacy, lacked connection and just stale. I eventually snapped. I feel bad about it but know, deep down, I have done the right thing.

I'm 50 btw and still told I'm attractive - even the women at work tell me.

Anyway, I'm pretty lonely at home. My eldest lives with his dad mainly (he is over 18) and the youngest is at her peak, awkward teenage years so she avoids me a lot and stays in her room. I work in a senior manager role in a very stressful environment with insufficient staff.

I started with OLD a while ago just to see if I could meet someone. Most have just been after a shag and when I wouldn't give they suddenly went silent or deleted me. Then I came across this guy. Lives in the same part of the UK but 35 miles north. We started chatting on Tinder and that went on a while before we moved to WhatsApp.

Anyway, we get on quite well and we both are at similar levels on our jobs. He, however has never married or had children. He is close to his sisters and their children which is lovely as they seem to be a very close family from what I'm picking up. He'll send me photos of the family and explain who is who and what they're doing in life etc. Unlike him, which is why my loneliness is bad, I don't have any family apart from my children. My parents and brother are RIP. I feel completely alone and, since I announced my divorce, my friends also seem to avoid me out of awkwardness.

The man in question is interesting, intelligent and well spoken. We share a lot of the same views on life etc. He doesn't ever seem to get sexual though. I do think he's a bit shy in that area but my husband was like a dead fish in that area and I don't want the same. We'd been chatting daily for a few months but we eventually met up a few weeks ago and spent a day in a city - park walk, lunch etc. We sat in his car afterwards a bit when he brought me back to my car. Chatted, listened to music. That's it. He never made a move on me at all. He was very polite tbh. And, I enjoyed the day. It was actually nice to be with a man who was enjoying my company rather than staring at my body etc. Anyway, I decided to kiss him when it was time to go and wow - he was passionate! He actually blushed when I got hold of his hand after I asked him if he liked that. We kissed for a good half hour which was lovely but I left it at that (obviously).

When I got home he messaged immediately to say he'd really enjoyed the day. He said he'd wanted to approach me but he thought I hadn't wanted to. He said he wanted to meet again.

However, he is so busy with his job (he ends up writing reports at home) and works shifts so opposite to my core hours role. I've said to him to let me know when he wants to do something and still nothing. But, he continues to message me daily. He doesn't phone me either.

I don't think there is anything dodgy going on. He does seem like a really polite man. I actually said to him last week that he didn't seem that interested in me. He asked what made me say that. I said he hardly says much and hadn't said anything about arranging another date. He just said he's enjoying getting to know me and wants to take it slowly plus we're both busy in FT jobs. He has told me was too cautious about getting married and regrets it.

I've decided to let him go next weekend if he makes no attempt to make time for me as this doesn't sit right with me.

I'm not being unreasonable am I?

OP posts:
shivermetimbers77 · 21/09/2022 09:37

This sort of relationship sounds great to me- I’m busy and used to my own space and I would love to just get to know someone slowly and let it unfold without pressure .. However, that’s not for everyone and if it’s not what you want OP then you have every right to ask for something different or look elsewhere if it’s not working for you. Good luck in London!

NorthAngel · 22/09/2022 07:33

He's booked up to the same place I'm
going to - at the same time. Pretty obvious he does want us to spend time together.

I'm not crazy about him or anything, as yet (and I'm very careful nowadays), but I see potential in this one.

Time will tell!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 22/09/2022 07:35

Weepachu · 21/09/2022 09:24

He sounds like a dud and I wouldn’t be too sure about him not wanting kids.

I recommend this book for your future dating endeavours, makes sense not to put all your eggs in one basket until you are sure. Saves a lot of heartache and ruminating too.

The Four Man Plan: A Romantic Science amzn.eu/d/aAidLZO

I can't see him wanting kids at almost 51. And, I can't have any now anyway (last period was in 2017) plus I wouldn't!! My job is full on and no way would I bring a child into the world at my age (50, 51 early next year).

OP posts:
Alcemeg · 22/09/2022 13:59

I think it all sounds rather promising, OP! Good luck!

NorthAngel · 22/09/2022 19:58

Alcemeg · 22/09/2022 13:59

I think it all sounds rather promising, OP! Good luck!

Thanks 🙏

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Auguste · 01/10/2022 23:15

How are you @NorthAngel

DoomsdayPrep · 04/10/2022 14:15

Yes, @NorthAngel, I wondered how things were panning out.

Some things in your post rang alarm bells for me after a similar experience (that did not end well).

Hopefully yours has worked out for the best.

Update us?

NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:20

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:20

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:20

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:21

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:21

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:21

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:25

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:25

Hi all,

We had a great time in London!! He really is a nice guy. Definitely a bit shy and held back in the getting physical department but once I made a move he responded extremely well!
We met up the Friday evening (his train didn’t arrive till the evening) and then spent all day Saturday together and Monday afternoon/early evening. He was an absolute gentleman! He even made sure I got the train home ok and watched my train leave King’s Cross (his train left an hour later).
Friday evening we met at KX and went to his hotel to drop off his bag and then he came over to my hotel. We went for something to eat and chatted. He’s very chatty and intelligent! He seemed more relaxed with me. Came back to my room and things got physical although we didn’t go all the way! Nice though and he enjoyed it. Saturday AM we met up again at Kensington Gardens and had a lovely walk. Weather was amazing all weekend. We walked for ages and back to his hotel for a rest. Lol. He laid on his bed and we just hugged and well, yes we did! We went on the tube and headed for Borough Market and got something to eat for lunch and soaked up the atmosphere. He held my hand.
He’s just messaged me on WhatsApp as I’m typing this lol.
Sunday we did our own thing as he was doing the half-marathon so I went to Hampton Court Palace and Bushy Park. We decided to meet Monday afternoon as I was going to the Tower of London and he wanted to go to Bushy Park. He came across to the Tower of London afterwards and met me at the exit. He smiled on seeing me and gave me a hug/quick kiss. We walked along the river watching the boats etc. Both of us had to head towards King’s Cross later on so we went for something to eat. He held my hand as we walked and was very protective of me near roads and he even carried my rucksack! He took me to places he’d talked about and really seemed to enjoy showing me things.
When it was time for my train he kissed me and looked sad I was going. He said he’d really enjoyed the weekend. I said I had too. He messaged me all the way home (even when he was on his train) and said thank you for a lovely weekend (with a couple of xx) when he got home.

Both of us are back to our busy jobs, sadly, but he has told me his days off next week to meet up again!

He is a really sweet guy! Just seems very reserved when it comes to sex/physical stuff - however the ‘rest’ he suggested at his hotel was more than a rest!!!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:26

Sorry this posted multiple times!!

OP posts:
potkettleblock · 14/10/2022 20:28

How did it go in London OP? 😁

Forzatesoro · 14/10/2022 20:31

That sounds so lovely OP! Enjoy the unfolding, and the rest 😉

ignoringthechoc · 14/10/2022 20:49

I was thinking as I read the first few messages that he reminded me of my partner when we first met,(on tinder, similar age) comfortable with being single, took it slow, very respectful. I had doubts as to whether he would be too quiet for me. I wasn't prepared for the fireworks when things progressed and 3 years on I am blissfully happy, hoping for the same for you op, enjoy every minute 😁

NorthAngel · 14/10/2022 20:52

Yes, he wants to take it slow and he is very respectful towards me. Totally unlike the rest on Tinder!

OP posts:
NorthAngel · 19/10/2022 19:57

Well, after our weekend in London he has reverted to the odd message every now and then with no hint of meeting up. I also said he could phone me if he wanted to and he said he’d phone me one night and still hasn’t. He sends me pics of where he is sometimes (like today, in the park) and chats like a friend but that’s it!

I really don’t get this guy at all! Is it because he’s so used to being single? I’m on the verge of saying something. He is at work a lot and does a lot for his sisters and mum but it’s very obvious he hasn’t got time for me. I think the only reason London happened was because he’d taken annual leave!!

I am so disappointed and still very lonely!!

OP posts:
Vapeyvapevape · 19/10/2022 20:05

What a shame , I'd ask him what his intentions are , you've got nothing to lose.

NorthAngel · 19/10/2022 20:19

I really need to say something. I’m not needy and I’m aware that we both have busy/demanding jobs but there are no plans to meet up on the horizon and I don’t think meeting up once a week, at the very least, is an unreasonable request. He messages me daily but it’s just general chit chat!

OP posts:
Sausagelove · 19/10/2022 20:25

He sounds avoidant. They are known to create distance after intimacy which is known as a intimacy hangover.

People like this can be controlling. They control the level of intimacy, contact and information. They keep conversations surface level. You will always be kept at arms length emotionally. You will find yourself endlessly pursuing and the more you peruse the more he will distance.

The normal rules of dating don’t apply to these types. If you want him to contact you, you’ll have to ignore him. Throw him back.

NorthAngel · 19/10/2022 20:34

I know. It’s really looking like I’ll have the throw him back. He seems emotionally distant. I really don’t get it as he was lovely in London but I’m definitely not feeling it and I am remaining, night after night, alone. I’ve even suggested meeting up after work one evening if we can’t arrange a day/afternoon. Nothing. We live 45 mins apart so could meet up half way at 22.5 mins! It’s hardly a long way!!

OP posts: