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I’m sad - is my marriage on it’s way out?

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Idontknowwhattodo4 · 09/09/2022 06:42

I’m so sad this morning, been with my DH 8 years, married 1. We have a 3 year old together, since he was born he’s always been a challenging child, very strong willed and for the past 6 months constantly tantruming. He wakes up between 4/5 every morning no matter what we do, we have no help from family or friends so haven’t been able to spend any time together (apart from our wedding night) alone since he was born.
I feel like a gap has developed between us - partially due to tiredness and partially due to my resentment towards him that he gets to go to work and everything at home is taken care of (I work part time). I love the bones of him but our days are now get home from work, cook tea, bath DS, tidy up then an hour together watching TV then we have to go to bed as we know how early he‘ll be up. Feels like Groundhog Day every day.

Anyone have any words of wisdom?

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naomi81 · 09/09/2022 08:00

We have a very challenging 3 year old, in fact the 3s have been the worst so far and very similar situation with no family helping. Think we have just resigned ourselves that this is how it's going to be until she's abit older. We have just started a reward system with our 3 year old and behaviour has started to change, makes us both feel abit happier and less tantrums.
Just watching to see if anyone has any other ideas x

DenholmElliot1 · 09/09/2022 08:15

Get yourselves a babysitter and go out once a week.

Idontknowwhattodo4 · 09/09/2022 08:17

@naomi81 sorry to hear you’re going through the same. The most frustrating thing is he’s an angel in anyone else’s company - but as soon as he’s home he’s a nightmare. I wondered if it’s because it was too boring at home but he has plenty to stimulate him. It’s such a difficult time isn’t it, it’s really creating a divide between us.

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Idontknowwhattodo4 · 09/09/2022 08:17

@DenholmElliot1 i’d love to be able to do that! We don’t know anyone who could babysit unfortunately 😢

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GiantTortoise · 09/09/2022 08:18

The period with young children puts a strain on many marriages, I remember wondering if DH and I would make it (we had 3 under 4). But our DC are teens now and DH and I are still together and still happy. So glad we didn't throw in the towel! My advice is to hang in there if you can.

KangarooKenny · 09/09/2022 08:18

Sounds like normal family life to me, the daily routine and grind.
Id say just keep going, it will get easier. And in 10 years time you’ll struggle to get him out of bed.

GiantTortoise · 09/09/2022 08:20

Can't you pay a babysitter occasionally?

www.sitters.co.uk/

tiredmumma8696 · 09/09/2022 08:23

if you can't get a baby sitter to go out can you have a date night at home?
We try and do this once a week, and might involve a takeaway, cook a nice meal, a movie or even watching your favourite music on YouTube.

Clymene · 09/09/2022 08:23

I don't know anyone who could babysit for me either.

I've always paid a professional.

TheTeenageYears · 09/09/2022 08:30

If he goes to pre school or nursery then ask if anyone does babysitting- many people working in those settings do.

No2incoming · 09/09/2022 08:37

Are you making the most of him being 3 now and might be entitled to the 30 free nursery hours? We like to take a days holiday leave just the two of us every now and then whilst he's at nursery, just to go shopping together and a nice lunch, just to spend time together. Also maybe a spa day just the two of you?

DialsMavis · 09/09/2022 08:39

If you went back to work would your DH pull his weight? Would you like to?

KangarooKenny · 09/09/2022 08:55

She does work, read what the op wrote !

DialsMavis · 09/09/2022 09:00

Oh apologies! Double burden then.

everywoman682 · 09/09/2022 09:05

Could your childminder or one of the staff at your child's nursery do occasional babysitting? Or put feelers out for a local responsible young adult who's interested in earning some extra?

Some time out as a couple is really important to break the monotony because it's relentless with young kids at this age

Successgirl2022 · 09/09/2022 09:17

When our son was young we were going out all 3 of us during the day time on weekends off.

We planned trips to 1) theme parks 2) the seaside when it was warm and hot), 3) parks, 4) inside children's Adventures 5) theater - children's plays :) 6) cinema - children's films/movies 7) cafe - even a cup of tea or coffee together with my husband outside the home and something to eat for our son. 8) family walks along the lake, canal, around the estate 9) visiting friends and family 10)planning holidays in the UK and abroad and going, etc.

Think what lovely interesting activities you could plan during the daytime as a family of 3.

The 1st time since we had our son was when it was just me and my husband when our son was 12. It was 3 years ago, he is 15 now. He was at his friend's birthday party with the sleepover. We went to the beach 45 minutes drive from us. It was so unusual without him.

Look after your marriage's fun time and try to strengthen your relations with your husband. Don't let any marriage crises ruin your lovely family unit.

There is a lot of educational information on YouTube videos on how to deal with 3 y.o. toddler having tantrums in a calm, wise and respectful way.

Successgirl2022 · 09/09/2022 09:18

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+deal+with+3+year+old+temper+tantrums

Thewookiemustgo · 09/09/2022 09:21

I’m not going to say what definitely works for all three year olds, one size never fits all, but this was what worked for us: Good old fashioned warning, followed by ‘naughty step’ as last resort. Didn’t call it the ‘naughty step’, just told them they would have to sit on the bottom step of the stairs for two minutes if they did it again/ didn’t comply with the request.

Sleep/ bedtime problems were dealt with by not reacting, not debating, just stating calmly it was time to go to bed if bedtime was an issue, or if they got up at silly o’ clock and were not ill or had a genuine problem, stating it wasn’t time to get up and taking the back to bed. Rinse and repeat until they have nearly broken you in our case. 😂

It’s tiring, wearing and you’d have to be superhuman if it didn’t affect your relationship for a while. It took many, many, many repetitions but it worked. The penny dropped eventually that no protest or tantrum ever succeeded and that no really, really meant no.

It was hard work, reduced me to tears sometimes (in another room listening to the sobbing) and you both have to be on exactly the same page, totally consistent, but it worked for us. I’m not saying it works for everybody or that it’s a piece of cake, it isn’t, it’s just what worked in our case.

The good news about your relationship is that you’ve actually detected the space it’s created between you. Talk to him about it (he might be pleased and relieved that you want to talk about it) and plan together how to get space for you both. Here’s something nobody told me when I got married many years ago:

Marriages aren’t great all the time by a long chalk sometimes, and raising children is hard work and a huge relationship dynamic changer, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s over or there’s no love left. It’s not a very romantic notion that marriage isn’t all hearts and flowers for the rest of your life, that it’s supposed to be a lifetime partnership where each time you face a potential crisis you have to choose to commit and value it when you might find it easier not to. You also sometimes have to know when to make the choice to leave the relationship if your spouse does not value it or you and will not change.

In your case, only from what you have said here, granted, it sounds like an exhausted couple struggling with their very young child, working hard and having a lot of priorities which are pushing the marriage to the back burner. This happens sometimes in marriage, the trick is to know that that is what’s happening, talk about it as soon as possible and find a window as soon as you can to remedy it. Absolutely agree to find a babysitter and get out to remember how lovely that feels.

Raising kids can get very Groundhog Day, and resentment is a big marriage killer and can build if one party envies the other and feels like they are doing the heavy lifting. Talk to your husband about what you have said here and look for that babysitter. Google everything you can about toddler tantrums and if your child attends nursery, ask for more advice.

Most parents have had these moments at some point in their child rearing years and relationship. It’s a tiring and wearing phase but it honestly does end.

I remember the Groundhog Day feelings, it can feel lonely too, I felt like everyone else had the perfect child/ marriage/ husband or were perfect parents compared to me.
I can tell you now you have a better chance of stepping in unicorn shit today than coming across any of the above. Hang in there XX

Successgirl2022 · 09/09/2022 09:24
  1. free (food from home) picnic in the fresh air together as a family
Livinghappy · 09/09/2022 09:26

Resentment is a relationship killer. Rather than get resentful work out what you need to enjoy your life. Would working full time help?

Plan time for yourself, don't be a martyr as that doesn't help anyone.

Idontknowwhattodo4 · 09/09/2022 10:01

Thank you so much for your advice, it’s helpful to know that these feeling are normal like you say. It’s so relentless at the minute - I work part time 3 full days a week so at least I get a break in that sense, it’s just between us we never get a break together. Has anyone used that babysitting website? I’m a bit weary of anyone babysitting who I don’t know

@Thewookiemustgo great advice thanks! When he gets up in a morning we say no it’s not time to get up - que screaming on the top of his lungs for about a hour until we get up. I’m conscious of pissing the neighbours off. Did you get this too?

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pointythings · 09/09/2022 10:02

In your position I'd be using the available free nursery hours to get your DS out and socialised (and worn out!) so that you could have a bit more energy to spare.

The 3yo stage doesn't last, but is often worse than the terrible twos.

If it's at all possible, I would also consider going back to work part time so that you can have some adult interaction as well - your world has shrunk and that breeds resentment.

pointythings · 09/09/2022 10:04

Apologies, I see you do work part time. If he's good as gold for everyone else then it may be that by the time you get him, he's overtired. Him acting out means he trusts you - and this is of course no comfort at all. Realistically the only thing to do is stay calm. I found that fully ignoring my DDs when they had a screaming fit worked - they're after a reaction. This is very difficult to do.

Greaterthanthesumoftheparts · 09/09/2022 10:11

This Is probably a really unpopular response but have you tried sticking him in front of the telly in the morning. On the weekends our DS still wakes at 7am as he does for kindergarten. We give him a treat of number blocks or something on the iPad while he sits in our bed and we doze til about 9. We then all get up with us feeling more rested and him feeling like he’s had a treat 👍🏻We don’t do it on school mornings but a couple of layins a week might just help things for the two of you.

BecauseICan22 · 09/09/2022 10:19

Idontknowwhattodo4 · 09/09/2022 08:17

@DenholmElliot1 i’d love to be able to do that! We don’t know anyone who could babysit unfortunately 😢

Register on the Bubble app. You'll find babysitter's local to you.

Good luck.