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Should I tell him everything about my past?

110 replies

obsessive101 · 18/08/2022 20:08

I am 26. My boyfriend is 24. We have been video chatting for 6 months after meeting at a virtual conference but I haven’t met him yet—I am flying to see him next month. We have spent hundreds of hours on call. He is very open and has only had one sexual/romantic relationship. I have had more, many of which he is aware of, but he is of a more conservative mindset when it comes to how many people someone has been with. I have never had vaginal intercourse; most of my encounters have been oral sex. In my late teens I disclosed childhood trauma for the first time and became hyper-sexual, resulting in 2 minor hookups he doesn’t know about which occurred about 8 years ago. Another one, during a second bout of trauma processing gone bad, occurred 3 years ago, was brief, and involved brief oral sex (giving) and kissing.

It has taken me a long time to be more and more open with him about my past encounters. I didn’t even remember one of them until after I was done with the conversation (just great). He knows of my relationship sexual activities, and recently about another hookup which occurred 8 years ago in high school, and the discussion of that didn’t go great as he was unhappy he was finding out this late (8 months) into the relationship. He then asked me to get STI testing before my visit (which is reasonable; I made an appointment for tomorrow). He has said before that there is a limit of people someone has been with for him to want to have a relationship
but said there is no set number.

I feel at this point that the hazy-recollection hookups I chose not to disclose were so long ago, and so out of character, that they are irrelevant to my current relationship. If I test negative for STIs I will feel much better about this, though not 100%. Last night he asked who else I’d been sexual with and I said “No—I have told you my sexual history in a way that [I feel] is complete.” He seemed to accept this. It would be really difficult to explain to him over time how previous hookups are related to trauma, as he would struggle to see it that way—he would likely only see it from a practical, objective standpoint.

I have lost hours of sleep over this. My days are spent ruminating, not paying attention in conversations with others because this is the only thing on my mind: the guilt, that I am lying, that I am choosing to keep those instances between me and my therapist. I am consumed by this. I have barely eaten. I just need some outside thoughts on this. I’m not looking for “leave him” comments, I just need some honest support.

OP posts:
Luredbyapomegranate · 19/08/2022 00:21

You both seem a bit fixated on previous sexual relationships. It’s not important and you are not obligated to tell anyone about your sex life.

Also, OP you haven’t met this guy properly, I hope it works out but right now he isn’t your boyfriend. Just keep clear boundaries.

obsessive101 · 19/08/2022 00:24

@EmmaH2022 I'm staying with him and his mom, who I've met and who has met my family. @OldFan, I'm a virgin in the sense that I've only never had vaginal intercourse due to a psycho-physical condition, but have met criteria in all other areas. To him, full sex is no different from non-full sex, and I get that we have different ideas about that, but I just need to not feel guilty!

OP posts:
ThisWormHasTurned · 19/08/2022 00:27

I fell for someone in a similar way…Met online, months of messaging then phone calls. Met in person and I’d already fallen for who he seemed to be. Married quite quickly, it was like all the love songs I’d ever heard were true..
15 years later I realised I’d married an abusive man who was in fact; quite the opposite of the man I’d fallen for. The man I fell for was a sober, kind, considerate, selfless man. The man I was married to was a functioning alcoholic with a martyr complex who was very controlling. I’d spent years hoping he would come back, but actually he never existed. It was a myth, I bought into the fairy tale. I’ve left him now but we have a DC together so I have to remain in contact.

People can create false impressions on the internet. He’s telling you what he thinks you want to hear. You’re already tying yourself in knots for this man and you haven’t even met him. Think very carefully about meeting him.

GreyCarpet · 19/08/2022 00:31

To him, full sex is no different from non-full sex, and I get that we have different ideas about that, but I just need to not feel guilty!

But it wouldn't matter if you'd shagged the entire local rugby team three times over before breakfast.

It's none of his business! Who gives a shit what he thinks!

EmmaH2022 · 19/08/2022 00:32

obsessive101 · 19/08/2022 00:24

@EmmaH2022 I'm staying with him and his mom, who I've met and who has met my family. @OldFan, I'm a virgin in the sense that I've only never had vaginal intercourse due to a psycho-physical condition, but have met criteria in all other areas. To him, full sex is no different from non-full sex, and I get that we have different ideas about that, but I just need to not feel guilty!

You've met his mum in real life? You're 100% sure she lives there?

tbh this sounds so odd, I'm not sure it makes me any less worried about you.

OldFan · 19/08/2022 00:40

To him, full sex is no different from non-full sex

@obsessive101 I'm into Catholicism but he sounds really uptight. And I bet he's expecting a standard from you that he hasn't from himself. Has he never got off with anyone to any extent? He might not even be being honest with you.

You're more 'pure' than probably 95% or more of people your age or something.

How're you getting on with your therapist? Are they helping much, or do you think you could try a different one?

I just need to not feel guilty!

If you are religious at all you could pray, ask God's forgiveness and he will give it to you. Then resolve not to do this sexual stuff again (it sounds like you've stopped doing it anyway.)

Then you have nothing to feel guilty about, you're forgiven. And if you do slip then just pray again and start again.

But this guy I think will really upset you @obsessive101 . He's so picky that sooner or later he'll find something he's not happy with about you; he'd do it with anyone, but your current psychological state is such that it'd hit you really hard.

He's making you feel bad in ways the average guy wouldn't. I don't think going there is a good idea.

Maybe don't date for now, until you're much better in yourself- or at least don't date this guy. He's damaging your mental health.

I will be starting to try and date Catholic guys and juggling what I disclose of my 50+ lovers including anonymous group sex BTW. x Grin

OldFan · 19/08/2022 01:01

If you have vaginismus or something then you even more need someone who makes you feel relaxed and accepted. x

Nancydrawn · 19/08/2022 01:33

You never, ever have to tell him and you don't need to feel guilty about that.

My husband and I have a very honest relationship. I have no idea how many people he's slept with, and he doesn't know everyone I've slept with. I'd never ask for a number and would be shocked if he asked me. I know he had a sexual past, as I did; we were in our mid-20s when we met, so I would only be surprised if he hadn't. It's not a big secret or anything I'm ashamed of, but it's my own business and nothing he's ever wanted details about. I certainly don't want details about his previous sex life.

This doesn't mean I don't trust him or I'm lying to him. It means that private details of previous relationships before we met are just that: private to those involved.

NotaCoolMum · 19/08/2022 01:37

@obsessive101 you keep putting the onus on yourself “I need to not feel guilty”…. HE is in the wrong here! Are you listening to anything we’re trying to tell you?!

you are heading for an emotional mind fuck with this guy!!

Foronenightonly22 · 19/08/2022 02:00

I’ve never discussed numbers or went into any detail with my husband of 18 years and I’ve never asked him for detail.

Why would you? and why would a guy you meet online and not in the real world think he can ask?

Cigarettesaftersex1 · 19/08/2022 05:57

This gets weirder and weirder. You've never met this guy but you've met his mum and she's met your family?

Elsiid · 19/08/2022 06:04

This sounds very dysfunctional already. Don't go and meet him.

Poppyblush · 19/08/2022 06:14

Thus is a screwed up ‘relationship’.

Oblomov22 · 19/08/2022 06:15

Don't meet him. He sounds controlling and too conservative. Why ever apologise for the past? Please get some counselling. You don't sound to be in a fit state mentally to be having a relationship with anyone.

CobraChicken · 19/08/2022 06:16

Yikes! He sounds extremely controlling, judgmental, unpleasant and insecure. Was this a spontaneous and naturally developing relationship (as much as it could be, when you've never actually met in person) or is it some sort of arranged marriage situation?

Clara27 · 19/08/2022 06:27

How have you met his mother and she’s met your family? It sounds like this has been arranged for you and you’re already being controlled by those around you. You don’t have to comply, you can take control of your own life. This sounds so sad.

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/08/2022 06:35

I'm assuming from the 'mom' stuff that there is some cultural guilt at play as well as trauma guilt.

You are in no world ready to meet up with him (or have any healthy relationship). What on earth does your therapist make of all of this?

AdifferentGoat · 19/08/2022 06:36

I know I'm probably repeating what many have said but you don't owe anyone your past. I think there are far too many red flags here and I don't say this lightly. I was once involved with someone who was obsessed with my history. It all started nicely enough but once he know of various physical encounters which were also not penetrative, he wouldn't drop it. Became a bit abusive and controlling as well. I rid myself of him but looking back, I wonder, why the hell I had entertained his obsession. For your sake, any man who is this bent on knowing your sexual past is shady. And the fact you feel guilty? It says a lot. Please don't hurt yourself in pursuit of someone who has their own baggage to deal with.

AdifferentGoat · 19/08/2022 06:48

I had to post again. Even if cultural aspects are in play, this "guilt" you carry or need to "explain yourself" so he doesn't think this or that is a terrible way to enter any relationship. Maybe he is inexperienced (considering your ages) but that is why it is so important you set the standard from now. You aren't his to analyze re your past. The way you say "past" makes it look like you have some insane dark secret or several dead husbands in your wake.. You have gone through trauma and have pushed through with strength, you owe yourself boundaries and privacy to disclose whatever you are comfortable whenever YOU are comfortable. If he understands then sure but if he continues to push it, please do yourself a favour and don't sell yourself so short. There will be plenty of kind and respectful men who won't make you feel you owe them explanations.

Shoxfordian · 19/08/2022 06:58

He sounds quite misogynistic - does he only see women as virgins or whores?! It sounds like he has some fairly unhealthy views about women. Your past is your business and not his; nobody has the right to make you feel bad about it

Luckingfovely · 19/08/2022 07:11

OP - I've just read this, and have goosebumps because of the danger you may be in.

Nothing about this is normal. Nothing. Please please read the responses - and actually think about them, as opposed to finding ways to justify this non-relationship.

And dead lord, please do not get on that flight. You have no idea what may happen if you do.

I also think you need to share all of this with your therapist urgently to try and get some real perspective on the situation.

PortMac · 19/08/2022 07:28

How can he be kind and affectionate if you've never met him?
Very odd behaviour to ask a person about their sexual past. I've been married 20 years and we've only had that conversation once.
Everyone has a past 🤷‍♀️

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 19/08/2022 08:28

Op if you absolutely must meet him please tell a friend exactly where /when you will be there and home.

LooseGoose22 · 19/08/2022 08:37

Clara27 · 19/08/2022 06:27

How have you met his mother and she’s met your family? It sounds like this has been arranged for you and you’re already being controlled by those around you. You don’t have to comply, you can take control of your own life. This sounds so sad.

Perhaps op's family are Mormon, Jehovahs Witness or similar.

LooseGoose22 · 19/08/2022 08:39

Or another church that has string international links.

Is this a semi arranged relationship/potential marriage, op?
With the introduction through church families (?)

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