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Should I tell him everything about my past?

110 replies

obsessive101 · 18/08/2022 20:08

I am 26. My boyfriend is 24. We have been video chatting for 6 months after meeting at a virtual conference but I haven’t met him yet—I am flying to see him next month. We have spent hundreds of hours on call. He is very open and has only had one sexual/romantic relationship. I have had more, many of which he is aware of, but he is of a more conservative mindset when it comes to how many people someone has been with. I have never had vaginal intercourse; most of my encounters have been oral sex. In my late teens I disclosed childhood trauma for the first time and became hyper-sexual, resulting in 2 minor hookups he doesn’t know about which occurred about 8 years ago. Another one, during a second bout of trauma processing gone bad, occurred 3 years ago, was brief, and involved brief oral sex (giving) and kissing.

It has taken me a long time to be more and more open with him about my past encounters. I didn’t even remember one of them until after I was done with the conversation (just great). He knows of my relationship sexual activities, and recently about another hookup which occurred 8 years ago in high school, and the discussion of that didn’t go great as he was unhappy he was finding out this late (8 months) into the relationship. He then asked me to get STI testing before my visit (which is reasonable; I made an appointment for tomorrow). He has said before that there is a limit of people someone has been with for him to want to have a relationship
but said there is no set number.

I feel at this point that the hazy-recollection hookups I chose not to disclose were so long ago, and so out of character, that they are irrelevant to my current relationship. If I test negative for STIs I will feel much better about this, though not 100%. Last night he asked who else I’d been sexual with and I said “No—I have told you my sexual history in a way that [I feel] is complete.” He seemed to accept this. It would be really difficult to explain to him over time how previous hookups are related to trauma, as he would struggle to see it that way—he would likely only see it from a practical, objective standpoint.

I have lost hours of sleep over this. My days are spent ruminating, not paying attention in conversations with others because this is the only thing on my mind: the guilt, that I am lying, that I am choosing to keep those instances between me and my therapist. I am consumed by this. I have barely eaten. I just need some outside thoughts on this. I’m not looking for “leave him” comments, I just need some honest support.

OP posts:
felulageller · 18/08/2022 21:47

His controlling behaviour is verging onto emotional domestic abuse.

Don't meet him.

He will always think he's better than you. (He isn't).

Crimeismymiddlename · 18/08/2022 21:54

He is not your boyfriend, you have never met. Please don’t feel you have to tell him your history-you don’t decent people know that actually everyone has a past and it is no one’s business. I would also be wary of him wanting sec before you are ready and using the ‘but you let other men’ argument. This has happened to me and it was truly horrible.
I learned the hard way that men don’t need to know, I really had a great time in my youth with lots of partners-but that is between me and them not anyone else. I don’t want to know about my partners past ether.

Littlepaws18 · 18/08/2022 21:54

tickticksnooze · 18/08/2022 20:24

No no no no no.

This is false intimacy and wildly dysfunctional. You don't know him, you can't have a boyfriend you've never met, and the idea you should have to disclose all this is toxic.

This isn't a good situation and it won't end well for you if you continue down this path.

Absolutely this and I'm speaking from experience. I've had several online relationships which have all involved months and months of chat and getting to know each other. But it was all fictional- meeting was just simply not the same.

Also meeting someone you don't know in another country is incredibly dangerous. I kick myself for the dangerous situations I could have got myself into.

If you are going to meet, meet on your territory, make sure friends and family know where and when and check in with them. Do not visit him first at all. Incredibly dangerous to do so.

Opentooffers · 18/08/2022 21:58
  1. He is in no way your boyfriend as you've never even met, so you do sound delusional saying that.
  2. You need to realise that anyone can fake kindness online - but really, you can't know if he's affectionate or not without meeting in person.
  3. There is a lot wrong with any man who directly asks you about your sexual history, end of. I have never directly been asked, if I ever were to be I would say its none of their business and dump for asking. You have missed a huge red flag. You are basically a person who is tying themselves up in knots to try and measure up to be the person you think he wants you to be. Really, the more info you give him, the more he will use it against you. He already is doing this by making you feel so guilty about doing nothing, so where is the kindness - that is not kind, in fact he's just showing how manipulative he is. Unfortunately this all shows that you need help and support as you are too willing to hold onto megre crumbs in the hope of a fantasy love. Get help for your own sake and stop talking to this obvious twunt - yes, it's glaring how dodgy this one is.
category12 · 18/08/2022 21:58

Bonkers.

Sorry but this is bonkers.

Get yourself to counselling, not to see this weirdo.

RedLemonade · 18/08/2022 22:01

Agree with everyone. This doesn’t sound like a healthy relationship.

I always remember this line from a document on discussing what makes healthy, happy relationships with teens.
“you might also ask them if the relationship makes them more or less self-respecting, hopeful, caring, and generous. How often does the relationship make them worried or depressed? Does their partner have qualities that are concerning or troubling?…”

Hold a mirror up to your interactions with this man and ask yourself these questions.

hewouldwouldnthe · 18/08/2022 22:09

If he's been in a relationship also insist on STI check for him. He doesn't get to dictate your actions. Personally I would say don't disclose to him your past sexual history. Say a couple of short term relationships but nothing special. He will never know and doesn't need to. In the future you can disclose the trauma, but not the other stuff. Please don't feel the need, even if he becomes a true partner long term, to disclose your past. It's none of his business, and any man demanding to know every encounter, every action and every man would set off many red flags to me. He accepts you as you are. You owe him nothing regarding your past.

Trivester · 18/08/2022 22:14

You have suffered sexual trauma. It is very likely that your judgement around relationships and boundaries has been damaged by these experiences. It is important to tread carefully, and to listen to what your intuition is telling you.

Your instinct was to lie. That’s not because of any moral failing - that was a reflexive survival reaction to a threat you perceived. Your thinking brain will tie you in knots over that but the part of your brain that keeps you safe knows that you needed protection in that moment.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 18/08/2022 22:28

I'm sorry OP, you don't have either a BF or a 'relationship'. What you have done is become embroiled in some kind of fantasy situation with someone who sounds more than a bit dodgy.

None of this sounds normal or healthy. This guy is just screwing with your head and probably getting off on manipulating you.

Please discuss this with your therapist.

In the meantime pull the plug on this person and please, please, for your own safety do not meet him.

whereamu · 18/08/2022 22:35

No.
Next!

ShirleyJackson · 18/08/2022 22:37

Run a mile.

Dery · 18/08/2022 22:38

As many PPs have said - this is all wrong. You are in no sense obliged to share your personal history with anyone - in 20+ years, my DH and I have never shared the amount you’ve shared. And this guy is using your very modest history as a stick to beat you with.

You are clearly vulnerable, OP. You would not be sharing all this with him if you were not. Please re-think this. This man is wrong for you. You need lots more therapy before attempting a relationship because you’re so vulnerable.

LunaTheCat · 18/08/2022 22:45

OP I am worried about you. You have not met, he is asking things which he has no entitlement to know, you are already worried.
I am worried that you are going to be sexually assaulted by this man.
you are in an extremely vulnerable position
there are lots red flags
if you want to go tell someone else exactly where you are. Do not stay with him, do not have an STI check and be clear you are not willing to have sex.
Meeting somebody on line is not a relationship.

Closetbeanmuncher · 18/08/2022 22:48

I can see for see the potential for him slut shaming you here and find it very odd that he even asked.

Whether you’ve been with 1 or 1000 men is none of anyone else’s business, and I’m a bit concerned about you guilt ruminating.

Don’t tell him anything is my advice. STI checks are sensible IMO but anything else is not his business.

Closetbeanmuncher · 18/08/2022 22:48

*forsee the potential

SallyWD · 18/08/2022 22:53

What worries me even more than his disturbing and controlling behaviour is that you see nothing wrong with it. In fact you're only imagining that YOU'RE somehow at fault - that there's something shameful about your past and you feel guilty for not revealing full details of every sexual encounter you've had. OP - this is all wrong. You're clearly a very vulnerable person if you feel like that and he's already exploiting these vulnerabilities. He is not the right person for you. Do not go and meet him.

Polimolly · 18/08/2022 22:54

This man sounds very scary. I think you should cancel your ticket and have more therapy. You don't owe him any explanations about your past encounters or anything else. It's none of his business!

He's not your boyfriend. He's a stranger who you met online and who is trying to control you because he knows how insecure you are

obsessive101 · 18/08/2022 23:12

Other than this he has said or done nothing controlling, he is very patient and genuine and I have never felt pressured in any other way. I fear he will think I'm "not that kind of person" when I really am.

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SunscreenCentral · 18/08/2022 23:51

No, OP.

Stop and read the messages.

Do not engage further with this man. Do not travel to meet him.

He's a cipher, you know nothing about him except for the fact he's using your vulnerability against you. Huge huge Red Flag.

Block, delete and invest in your self.

NotaCoolMum · 19/08/2022 00:07

@obsessive101 I PROMISE you that this is NOT NORMAL OR HEALTHY.

please look up Retroactive Jealousy as this is exactly what he’s doing!

Please listen to all the other posters! You are in for nothing but grief, emotional abuse, control, and being made to feel like shit about your (PERFECTLY NORMAL) past if you meet him.

I was in this situation in my 20s and my god I wish I would have told him to fuck off in the beginning.

This relationship WILL traumatise you if you choose to go ahead. Please stop and listen to the very wise advice you’re being given.

I’ve been with my other half for years and neither of us knows the exact number of sexual partners the other had in the past. It’s totally irrelevant.

GreyCarpet · 19/08/2022 00:11

He is not your boyfriend. He is a stranger you have been chatting to online. You don't know him. You haven't seen him in every day life. You've not walked down the street with him. You don't know his smell, his habits, how he chews his food. Not even whether his hands are smooth or rough. You don't know if he's polite to waiters. Chats to strangers. How often he cleans his bathroom sink. What he keeps on top of his fridge. Whether he farts in bed. Or snores. Or washes behind his ears. Or... anything. You only know what's told you. And he's told you there's a maximum number sexual partners any girlfriend of his must not exceed.

Great...

You owe him nothing and certainly not full sexual history disclosure.

It's actually really concerning that you see this interaction in the way that you do.

I'd be really concerned if you were my daughter.

Tbh, I'm really concerned for you and you're total stranger!

Hiddenvoice · 19/08/2022 00:14

I’m sorry you’re feeling guilty but you really shouldn’t. He’s not currently your boyfriend, you are not doing anything with any other man whilst talking to him. You are entitled to have a past, whether he likes it or not. Honestly op, he sounds judgemental and seems like he could become controlling.
Before being married, I told previous guys about proper relationships that I had, I didn’t count different encounters I had, only serious relationships. I don’t see why it’s relevant to him really. He should be feeling happy and content that you are only speaking to him and are wanting to meet him in person.
Im worried that his opinion of you already weighs heavily on you. Before you two are even in a real relationship, you are already worried about upsetting him. Sorry but this is not a healthy way to start a relationship.
Please take some time to put you first, you’ve done nothing wrong to feel guilty about and he should not be judgmental or demanding to know things.

Deadringer · 19/08/2022 00:18

My dh of 35 years doesn't know everything about my sexual history, anything before him isn't really his business. Is this guy getting some sort of kick out of exploring your past because it sounds like it. Be very careful with this man op.

OldFan · 19/08/2022 00:20

He has said before that there is a limit of people someone has been with for him to want to have a relationship but said there is no set number.

You're still a virgin at 24 @obsessive101 . If he's still finding stuff to be picky about then he's not a nice guy.

Your username implies you are prone to being obsessive.

I think you're overly beating yourself up about some encounters that weren't even full sex. x

EmmaH2022 · 19/08/2022 00:20

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 18/08/2022 22:28

I'm sorry OP, you don't have either a BF or a 'relationship'. What you have done is become embroiled in some kind of fantasy situation with someone who sounds more than a bit dodgy.

None of this sounds normal or healthy. This guy is just screwing with your head and probably getting off on manipulating you.

Please discuss this with your therapist.

In the meantime pull the plug on this person and please, please, for your own safety do not meet him.

This
are you going to another country? Where are you staying?

you'll be happiest if you cut this off now.

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