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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 19:59

No- cause I know that the abuse will escalate.

So what’s the plan then OP?

You are literally wasting your life by staying with him.

If you want children then you need to end this relationship so you can find a new one.

Are you hoping he’ll get deported?

Sidnnancy · 17/08/2022 20:00

Oh seriously op fuck off then.

Stay with him seeing as that's what you want to hear.

You will probably make front page news and not for a good reason. RIP

Darbs76 · 17/08/2022 20:00

This is a very dangerous situation, please do not ever go to a hotel with him again. You need to end this relationship now

SunnyD44 · 17/08/2022 20:01

If you could picture the perfect relationship what would it look like?

orion678 · 17/08/2022 20:01

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:57

@viques I don't understand. If you had a partner who was homeless, couldn't go to work because of reasons beyond his control, you wouldn't financially help them? If I didn't, that would make me a bad person. You don't want your partner to go without.

He is not your partner. He is your abuser.

Sidnnancy · 17/08/2022 20:01

Darbs76 · 17/08/2022 20:00

This is a very dangerous situation, please do not ever go to a hotel with him again. You need to end this relationship now

The silly cow isn't listening to us. He WiLl ChAnGe!!! 🙄

tootiredtoocare · 17/08/2022 20:01

Leave. You are not responsible for his mental health or his financial status. You are responsible for your own, and he is destroying both. Walk. Now.

Ilikewinter · 17/08/2022 20:02

But hes not homeless is he, hes in a government paid flat, which is funded by the tax payer, whilst appealing the refusal of his last application for leave.

Bluebells12 · 17/08/2022 20:02

OP you are in an abusive relationship. He will never make you happy, or safe. If he hits his girlfriend he’ll hit his children, you can’t let him be the father of your children.

Talk to Women’s Aid about how to safely get away from him. It is possible to be happy and safe. You still have time to meet someone else and have children but in a few years that won’t be true.

TattiePants · 17/08/2022 20:02

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:50

No- cause I know that the abuse will escalate. I know this sounds silly but most of my friends are married have kids, appear happy. I just feel sad on how my life has turned out.

You want a normal life with marriage and children but the only way to get that is to end this relationship now. How will you ever meet anyone decent when you’re with him?

You say you’re worried about what he’ll do if you leave him. He’ll probably do nothing as bullies are often cowards but if he threatens you or stalks you, you go to the police. A police record will help speed his exit from the country.

N27 · 17/08/2022 20:03

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:50

No- cause I know that the abuse will escalate. I know this sounds silly but most of my friends are married have kids, appear happy. I just feel sad on how my life has turned out.

This!!! You know it’s abusive you use the word yourself!!

if you have a child with him, you know damn well that child will be a victim of his abuse and violence as well, is that what you want?

Glitterandunicorns · 17/08/2022 20:03

Hi OP. I definitely agree that this is an abusive relationship. You are being used for sex and money. I am so sorry to be blunt about it. It is absolutely normal for a person to want to have sex with their gf/bf, but absolutely not normal or acceptable for them to become violent if you aren't able/ don't want to.

In a normal, healthy relationship, you shouldn't have to pretend to be ill so your partner doesn't shout at you or stay awake until 6 so you're sure you're safe. Healthy relationships aren't ones where you're afraid your parter will assault you.

Please leave. This is not healthy or safe for you.

This is a side issue I know, but you said you've been with this person for 12 years but they have no leave to remain? Are you in any way linked from an immigration point of view eg you are named as a partner for a spouse visa or something like that? Just wanted to make sure you weren't being used for that purpose too.

FlissyPaps · 17/08/2022 20:03

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:57

@viques I don't understand. If you had a partner who was homeless, couldn't go to work because of reasons beyond his control, you wouldn't financially help them? If I didn't, that would make me a bad person. You don't want your partner to go without.

If my partner was a manipulative controlling and VIOLENT I absolutely would want him to go without.

Seriously OP how can you not see this?

Surely you know he is wrong. Surely you know you need to leave. Surely you know you deserve SO MUCH better than this. Surely you do! You wouldn’t have created this thread otherwise?

What do you want to hear? What do you want us to say? Since you refuse to accept the obvious.

Sidnnancy · 17/08/2022 20:04

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RenegadeMatron · 17/08/2022 19:52

This is ‘up’ there with the most awful ‘relationships’ I’ve read about on MN. And let’s be honest, MN is the home of awful relationships.

OP - this is so far from normal, it’s unreal. You can’t see that though, as you’ve been with this loser sub-standard specimen since childhood.

Not one person is going to give you advice on how to make things work with this drop-kick.

Good luck OP - my God, you’re going to need it.

I had to stop reading about page 3 as was so awful. Saw it trending picked page 7 at random. Can't read any more.

OP treat yourself - to freedom and happiness, something you've never known.

Sidnnancy · 17/08/2022 20:05

Glitterandunicorns · 17/08/2022 20:03

Hi OP. I definitely agree that this is an abusive relationship. You are being used for sex and money. I am so sorry to be blunt about it. It is absolutely normal for a person to want to have sex with their gf/bf, but absolutely not normal or acceptable for them to become violent if you aren't able/ don't want to.

In a normal, healthy relationship, you shouldn't have to pretend to be ill so your partner doesn't shout at you or stay awake until 6 so you're sure you're safe. Healthy relationships aren't ones where you're afraid your parter will assault you.

Please leave. This is not healthy or safe for you.

This is a side issue I know, but you said you've been with this person for 12 years but they have no leave to remain? Are you in any way linked from an immigration point of view eg you are named as a partner for a spouse visa or something like that? Just wanted to make sure you weren't being used for that purpose too.

No doubt this violent criminal will get his citizenship and no longer need op.

TattiePants · 17/08/2022 20:07

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 19:57

@viques I don't understand. If you had a partner who was homeless, couldn't go to work because of reasons beyond his control, you wouldn't financially help them? If I didn't, that would make me a bad person. You don't want your partner to go without.

He is not your partner. A partnership is equal and there’s nothing equal about this relationship.

Vapeyvapevape · 17/08/2022 20:07

You really need help with this - you want children but you know you can't have any with him because of the violence but you love him but don't want to see him often because of the violence. He doesn't work , you don't have much money, so I'm guessing you won't be able to afford a place for you both to live in , your mum dislikes him so I guess she wouldn't have him in her house, he's an illegal immigrant with no certainty that he'll be allowed to stay in the uk .
it's very, very, very fucked up.

poetryandwine · 17/08/2022 20:08

OP,

I am generally very sympathetic to immigrants - I am one myself. They do have genuine problems, particularly poor ones. But your partner is an abuser and more abusers is the last thing we need. You also have plenty of time to have a baby with a real man, not a pathetic excuse for one.

If you are really worried that he will stalk you or worse - and it seems like a definite possibility - just report what he has already done to the police. Arrange to have him kept away from you. He will almost surely have his application to remain denied, as he should. You deserve better.

Victoriaplum81 · 17/08/2022 20:09

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:54

I cannot leave him. He would not let me. Even if I do, I would face the repercussions. He would stalk me, he knows where my close family members work, he would demand answers from then - or worse maybe hurts them, I don't know but I cannot put them in that position. I have to continue to talk to him so he doesn't suspect anything- just till I feel safe enough to just block. I cannot afford to get beaten up right now, I need to support my mum and I need to work.

Wow! You can’t leave him as he won’t let you? You love him and want a baby with him.. are you for real? Go and see a dr about your mental health and report him to the police. He is physically and mentally abusing you.

magicstar1 · 17/08/2022 20:11

You need to leave now. What will happen if he gets proper immigration status, and is free to leave and work etc? Will you marry him and have his baby? Then you’ll be stuck with him which is what you seem to be trying to avoid.

Also, he keeps suggesting the park? Probably for a shag in the bushes.

rocketfromthecrypt · 17/08/2022 20:11

Please please leave him. This is not an environment to bring a child into! He will be more tired, more stressed, poorer - he will only get angrier and more violent, and you and the child would bear the brunt of that. Stop making excuses for him and leave. He doesn't love you, you don't treat people you love like he does you.

Cherchezlaspice · 17/08/2022 20:12

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:54

I cannot leave him. He would not let me. Even if I do, I would face the repercussions. He would stalk me, he knows where my close family members work, he would demand answers from then - or worse maybe hurts them, I don't know but I cannot put them in that position. I have to continue to talk to him so he doesn't suspect anything- just till I feel safe enough to just block. I cannot afford to get beaten up right now, I need to support my mum and I need to work.

Then call the police.

OP, do you understand why so many people are incredulous? You’re in an extremely abusive, utterly insane relationship and seem to think it’s fine. It is very hard to believe that anyone would have the reactions and responses you're currently posting. If you’re not trolling, then perhaps reflect on why people are reacting this way to what you’re saying.

Bikeybikeface · 17/08/2022 20:14

Does he have any redeeming qualities OP?

I mean, you aren’t exactly selling him to me. I don’t know if you Abu or not because I can’t get past that you want a child with an abusive man. Do the future child a favour and either don’t have one or find someone else.

FridayiminlovewithRobertSmith · 17/08/2022 20:14

Did you say he attempted suicide the day before this hotel encounter? Clearly what you’re describing is unacceptable but he is very unwell if he is suicidal, which may contribute to the terrible way he has treated you.

It sounds extremely stressful all around. You appear to want this relationship although it is far from ideal at the moment? If so I’d suggest taking a step back from the romantic partnership and focusing more on helping him access the medical care he needs. It may be that you stand a chance of a healthy relationship but only if he makes a recovery.