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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
Cherchezlaspice · 18/08/2022 09:27

anyone can be a victim of DV

I really don’t think that’s true. I know it’s comforting for people to believe, though.

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/08/2022 10:53

@Cherchezlaspice you can think that all you like but having worked with families experiencing DV for 15 years I know you you are wrong and it’s that kind of attitude that is incredibly harmful, keeps abuse hidden and prevents people coming forward. Ever heard of the ‘just world fallacy?’ It it’s a thinking bias that brings comfort to people like you as it distances themselves from unpleasant things like DV

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/08/2022 11:01

@Cherchezlaspice …also, in what world would it ever be okay to post this on a thread started by someone experiencing DV? Have you remembered there are human beings at the other end of these comments????

Vapeyvapevape · 18/08/2022 11:02

@Cherchezlaspice what makes you say this ?

Sartre · 18/08/2022 11:16

Reading this really reminded me of my ex, so so many similarities. He lost his job a few weeks after we met so never had any money meaning anything we did had to either be free or funded by me which I did do an awful lot. Totally pointless because he was just an horrible abusive, controlling prick just like your boyfriend. He used to target the way I looked, dressed, acted, my interests, intelligence etc. Physically assaulted me a few times, loved to compare me to other women in a negative way. When I did end things he stalked me for months before assaulting me in broad daylight. I contacted the police and he luckily left me alone after that. He was just a black void, a very ugly empty person and your boyfriend sounds like that too.

You’re making excuses for him but you must know the way he acts is wrong else you wouldn’t be posting on here. Decent men don’t attack women- be it emotionally or physically. He’s trying to drag you down so you’re as low as him, he doesn’t want you to be happy or confident incase you leave him. You absolutely should leave him, particularly before you have a life long tie like a child which would be the worst thing you could do right now.

Cherchezlaspice · 18/08/2022 12:13

Vapeyvapevape · 18/08/2022 11:02

@Cherchezlaspice what makes you say this ?

The fact that it’s demonstrably untrue. There’s been quite a lot of academic work done on contributory factors and commonalities in domestic abuse. It’s all in the public domain and easily Googled.

Cherchezlaspice · 18/08/2022 12:17

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/08/2022 11:01

@Cherchezlaspice …also, in what world would it ever be okay to post this on a thread started by someone experiencing DV? Have you remembered there are human beings at the other end of these comments????

Someone made an inaccurate statement and I disagreed with it. That in no way disregards that OP is a human being or a victim of DV. Claiming that it does is disingenuous.

You are free to froth in self righteous rage if you’d like, however. Unclear as to how you feel that helps OP, but do your thing.

Julieann418 · 18/08/2022 12:22

No wonder your mum doesn't like him. Get rid of him.

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/08/2022 12:24

@Cherchezlaspice you’re categorically wrong. I work in this field. This is not what the research shows at all. You can’t just cite ‘research’ and think it makes you sound like you know what you’re talking about. The research actually shows the opposite. 😂

Cherchezlaspice · 18/08/2022 12:45

@Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme But you can say ‘I work in this field’ (no proof), say ‘the research shows the opposite’ (no citations from you, either) and you’re ‘categorically’ correct?

I see. Some strong arguments being made. I’m not doing this with you.

StarCourt · 18/08/2022 12:47

@Cherchezlaspice you're wrong. It happened to me although I didn't realise it at that exact time. I'm a really strong person, confident and have no problem confronting things or people. It only took a few weeks before I realised what it was. But I was astounded by the realisation.

123becauseicouldntthinkofone · 18/08/2022 12:52

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:24

How is he using me? I have been with him for 12 years and when we do free things. He suggests going to the park but I keep saying no but we do free things- yes but every month he does expect us to book a hotel. I think it's normal for a man to want sex- especially if his only getting it once a month.

i think you have your answer and opinions and dont like or are scared of the outcome. I would never normally say leave unless it is violent but in this case i am with the rest saying run for the hills!

Disbeliefisnotanargument · 18/08/2022 12:58

Cherchezlaspice · 18/08/2022 12:13

The fact that it’s demonstrably untrue. There’s been quite a lot of academic work done on contributory factors and commonalities in domestic abuse. It’s all in the public domain and easily Googled.

@Cherchezlaspice Who do you think couldn’t become a victim of DV?

orion678 · 18/08/2022 13:02

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 18/08/2022 09:18

@orion678 I said leave the thread, not leave him

My point was that you were harshly criticising the OP for not having listened to the advice and not having left the thread when in fact she HAS taken on board the advice she's been given

wellhelloitsme · 18/08/2022 13:18

@Cherchezlaspice

There’s been quite a lot of academic work done on contributory factors and commonalities in domestic abuse. It’s all in the public domain and easily Googled.

The fact that contributory factors make it more likely some people will experience DV isn't the same as saying you don't 'really don't believe it's true' that anyone can become a victim of DV. Which is what you said. And is false.

AccidentallyRunToWindsor · 18/08/2022 13:40

He isn't a boyfriend, he's an abusive bully. Run

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/08/2022 14:06

@Cherchezlaspice The ironic thing is that you’re actually backing up the hypotheses made in a lot of the most recent research around victim blaming. I’ve referred to things taken from research in a couple of my comments. Keep digging.

Grumpusaurus · 18/08/2022 14:13

Report the physical assault and threats to the police. If he persists with threats and harassment, I would contact immigration and see if such criminal behaviour affects his right to stay and try to get the fucker removed. Problem solved!

Bergamotte · 18/08/2022 15:22

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 21:55

Great and he just texted me to say that how can he be using him, that I have hardly helped him out with the immigration and that I haven't been lending him money. He then said that am I not even beautiful, that I'm not Beyoncé.

@galaxymilkshake don't pay any notice to his insults. He's just trying to ruin your self confidence so that you stay with him.

Keep his texts as evidence but don't reply.

Talk to Woman's Aid and stay strong.

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 18/08/2022 16:58

@orion678 ok then

uncomfortablydumb53 · 18/08/2022 17:20

He's dangerous and is using you
Block him everywhere. Being single is better than this and you have enough going on with your Mum

uncomfortablydumb53 · 18/08/2022 17:51

I've just seen your update
Please contact Womens aid and if you feel the slightest bit uneasy call the police
Do not respond to any messages from him, but keep them

galaxymilkshake · 02/09/2022 11:02

I don't know what to do. Ex is living on the streets and asked me that he would me to put for a hotel. I said I will be happy to pay half but then he said that I will need to come to present my ID and I said no, that I will not do that. Now he is getting upset saying that "I know your cheating on me.... I have been patient with you...just watch today...". I told him "no- but that (he) you are unpredictable and I have to put my foot down"- he was like "no... but it's your fault... all I wanted was just to see you.. but now I know that you don't care for man...It's your fault the reason why I hit you on that day. I told you to stop, to stop putting me down, to stop staying what your saying and being rude. I told you that you keep on playing with my emotions and how I feel. But no! You kept on doing it and doing... well you know what, I don't want anything from you..do what your doing...but let me catch you with another man and you watch. I'm not playing with you".

OP posts:
vodkaredbullgirl · 02/09/2022 11:13

You need to block him and don't have anything else to do with him. He is emotionally blackmailing you.

viques · 02/09/2022 11:18

galaxymilkshake · 02/09/2022 11:02

I don't know what to do. Ex is living on the streets and asked me that he would me to put for a hotel. I said I will be happy to pay half but then he said that I will need to come to present my ID and I said no, that I will not do that. Now he is getting upset saying that "I know your cheating on me.... I have been patient with you...just watch today...". I told him "no- but that (he) you are unpredictable and I have to put my foot down"- he was like "no... but it's your fault... all I wanted was just to see you.. but now I know that you don't care for man...It's your fault the reason why I hit you on that day. I told you to stop, to stop putting me down, to stop staying what your saying and being rude. I told you that you keep on playing with my emotions and how I feel. But no! You kept on doing it and doing... well you know what, I don't want anything from you..do what your doing...but let me catch you with another man and you watch. I'm not playing with you".

Please block him on all your social media. Report the threats to the police so that they are aware of your home address, ie it is logged in their system. If he comes to your home do not let him in and call the police immediately. This man sounds desperate and dangerous, do not give him money, it will only make him think that he can still manipulate you.

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