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DH and food - bit of an AIBU? (Long)

52 replies

Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 22:45

I need to understand if I've overstepped the mark. Yesterday whilst DH was berating me for not having weighed the items in the breakfast I made us, I snapped - told him that he had disordered eating, it's not my responsibility and he didn't have to eat the breakfast.

He stopped the car got out and left me in the middle of the road to walk home. Since then it's either silence treatment or going over and over the same thing and how hurt he is. I have apologised but I can't say it was my sincerest, and tbh I honestly feel that if it resonated that much with him then it's because there's an element of truth

A few things that made me say what I did:

  • he's addicted to carbs, he could eat a whole loaf of bread no problem, regularly just walks to the bread bin and mindlessly eats a few slices before or after meals
  • he binge eats, to the point that when he can't sleep and then he feels the need to sedate himself with food to sleep
  • up until very recently he has had two extremes: eat everything or restrict to 1,500 calories.
  • he has very little control. If we have sweet treats, nice bread or beer in the house it won't last more than a day.
  • he eats at odd times, very little routine and most of the time we eat separately which I find incredibly sad and lonely.
  • I regularly go to the fridge and something had been mindlessly eaten that I've bought for a specific reason, it's never replaced. I've reached a point where I actually try to buy some stuff that he has previously said he doesn't like, to avoid this happening and he will still eat it just because it's there
  • he obsesses/worries over social occasions where food is the focus, and actively avoids them especially if they're being held by people he considers to be overweight, as he finds it hard to regulate his eating around them (his paraphrased words)

Bit of background: he grew up in a labouring household with 1950s values. DMIL fills the table 3 times a day. Mentality of eat large, food is fuel/love. He's never grown out of it, never learnt to cook. DHs job is sedentary, it's been a tough few years and he's also an emotional eater who's now the wrong side of a youthful metabolism. He's gained significant weight that he's unhappy with.

Food-wise when left to himself, until very recently he's basically lived off ready meals and convenience food since leaving home. Doesn't "have the time" or the inclination to cook. But h
Positively he's reached a point of unhappiness where he's been to see a food therapist, which I supported. Howver she basically seems to have pointed out the bloody obvious without any real guidance or addressing the underlying causes and simply said; eat less carbs, cook from fresh and eat more veg and protein. This has caused him to do a 180 and he now has 4 very rigid and time consuming recipes that he will only cook. I enjoy cooking and I couldn't be arsed with what he's chosen to fixate on. He's just cooked homemade soup in the middle of a heatwave, he's eating tonnes of red meat. Cooks at really bizarre times, will start making a steak and raw salad at 11pm, and will then store hot meat and raw veggies in Tupperware together in the fridge. A recipe for food poisoning IMO and very expensive. I'm pregnant and so when he offers me the food the next day, I don't want the risk.

For context he can cook but definitely benefits from rigid guidance. We shared Hello Fresh boxes for a while during lockdown to help him learn and he was great, but he said it took too long and I ended up cooking them, when I can cook just fine and don't need to pay a premium. So unless I make something we don't eat together.

Today I did a weekly shop and after our fight and DH explicitly said to not shop for him, he doesn't need me to and he'll do his own, he then went an hour after me which is ridiculous in itself. I bought just enough food for me, I've gone down to the fridge an hour later and he's already started eating my yogurts. When I called him out on it, that apparently that makes me controlling. I'm not, if he wanted yogurts there were two opportunities to get him yogurts. I realise these are tiny petty things, but it builds up and it's just so frustrating!! And he can't even see the double standards of it when I point it out. Instead he stropped off to the corner shop and bought a huge litre of luxury creamy compote yogurt which I doubt will make it to tomorrow evening

So DH is fixated on the fact that I have, in his mind accused him of having a mental illness. Whereas I see disordered eating as a spectrum between normal eating and an eating disorder, and it's clearly something he struggles with. I've had friends with severe eating disorders so a diagnosis is not something I would never throw around. In fact I have had disordered eating myself during my teens, restricting and bingeing and I often feel like eating food in our house is a race against time and I can see myself slipping back into those patterns

I'm just exhausted by this, I realise he's trying to get help and impeove but it never seems to be in a sustainable and healthy way. I'm becoming increasingly resentful at how pervasive it has become in my life. I just don't know how I can deal with this better

OP posts:
Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 22:47

To clarify: HE walked home I drove

I've badly worded that but, sorry.

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Whataretheodds · 17/07/2022 22:49

I really sympathise with both of you - disordered eating is a horrible spiral to be in.

Has he ever tried Overeaters Anonymous?

Dic · 17/07/2022 22:50

Sounds exactly like an eating disorder to me. You've touched a nerve and he sounds like a right cunt anyway.

NoCureForLove · 17/07/2022 23:01

He sounds quite unwell and also very provoking. He needs to take some responsibility for his own shit and see a therapist rather than a food therapist to address his emotional issues. You need to detach and discuss some ground rules about food / eating- begore the baby arrives and this drives you mad.

Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 23:04

NoCureForLove · 17/07/2022 23:01

He sounds quite unwell and also very provoking. He needs to take some responsibility for his own shit and see a therapist rather than a food therapist to address his emotional issues. You need to detach and discuss some ground rules about food / eating- begore the baby arrives and this drives you mad.

I am genuinely worried about our DC an how this could impact them. I feel like either I turn into MIL no.2 or there'll have this own issues.

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 17/07/2022 23:08

So he does cook homemade soup or he does not cook anything?

Your post is quite confusing. Either way; it sounds as this has spiralled out of control for you both. He needs professional help.

Crazykefir · 17/07/2022 23:12

I was Going to say overeaters anoymous.

Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 23:14

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 17/07/2022 23:08

So he does cook homemade soup or he does not cook anything?

Your post is quite confusing. Either way; it sounds as this has spiralled out of control for you both. He needs professional help.

As I said until very recently he did not cook except for a short stint of Hello Fresh, since seeing the therapist he has started cooking very rigid set of meals

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PerseverancePays · 17/07/2022 23:17

How utterly exhausting for you. He needs professional help, like they are fond of saying on here , you are not his support human, his emotional punch bag or here to fix him. Supportive of course, as you are a team, but he needs to get help urgently. His problems are not your fault, he needs to remember that.

BananaBender · 17/07/2022 23:18

He needs a psychologist experienced in treating eating disorders.

Sounds like you need a second fridge that you can lock to keep your food safe from him.

Go enjoy a nice serving or two of his fancy yoghurt. Fair’s fair, he ate your yoghurt.

mistermagpie · 17/07/2022 23:18

Well that all sounds a real bummer. Im
Not sure how you have put up with it for so long, it sounds quite miserable. And being honest, it's something that is going to need to change when you have a child. All this 'I shop for me and you shop for you' and eating at weird times simply will not work with a child. It's really easy to pass on disordered eating to children and children can be fussy at the best of times, so you do need to model a decent (not perfect) diet and routine around eating.

I think he needs therapy. And not some sort of nutrition focussed thing, which sounds like what he's had before, but actual help with his mental health and attitude to food and eating.

AluckyEllie · 17/07/2022 23:18

Do you have other children already or is this your first? I’m going to be quite harsh and say you need to block out his childish fixation. You have a baby coming. The last thing you need to be doing when you’re knackered and sleep deprived is weighing out food for a grown man.

I’d tell him that you support him getting additional help and working on his issues but you don’t have the mind space to constantly talk about it. Change the subject when he brings it up. Children put a lot of stress on a relationship and he stopped the car because you didn’t weigh his breakfast. I mean it’s ridiculous. Think about finances and what you’d do if you split so you always have a safety net plan.

LittleOwl153 · 17/07/2022 23:27

You need to find a way of separating your eating from his. If you have had issues in the past it would be very easy to let things slip again and with a baby on board you need to eat properly whether he does or not. He needs to respect your space and that includes your food provisions if you are eating/cooking separately.

I would be looking to move out tbh if he won't get the proper help he clearly needs, whether that be short term through the pregnancy or longer term who knows.

Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 23:27

Whataretheodds · 17/07/2022 22:49

I really sympathise with both of you - disordered eating is a horrible spiral to be in.

Has he ever tried Overeaters Anonymous?

No, honestly if I suggested OA he'd just call me controlling.

I was really hopeful about him suggesting a therapist until I realised they only have to have a PT holistic diploma and are not recognised therapists or dieticians legally.

I'm making a conscious effort to not criticise her, but she's not said anything he didn't already know and yet she's somehow this expert who's made everything make sense! There's no check-ins or progress chats. Feels very irresponsible.

He also apparently told her that I am a cause and am very controlling. He didnt clarify how, but I imagine it's because I complain about not eating together and make meals. He also picks his skin when anxious stressed and has justtold me that he's done it to both of his upper arms because of what I've said.

He takes zero responsibility for his own actions.

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Craftycorvid · 17/07/2022 23:40

He sounds as if he has quite serious mental health problems and would benefit from working with an appropriately qualified psychotherapist. In the meantime, and for your own support, you could seek some talking therapy. How long has he been acting like this in response to food? It does feel very controlling on his part, and very disruptive for the family.

AluckyEllie · 17/07/2022 23:41

He sounds grim. How unattractive to not take ownership of his issues and just blame everyone else. How is he going to cope when your attention is on the baby? Do you jointly own your home/share finanaces etc? Do you have family support? Is he supportive with the pregnancy?

TugboatAnnie · 17/07/2022 23:53

If food has to be weighed then why isn't he doing it? Whatever you do or don't do will be wrong, stop trying. I understand it is worrying to live with someone who doesn't have control of their actions but he is blaming you every time he fails food wise. He needs help from outside.

D0lphine · 18/07/2022 00:07

I think he has some very serious MH issues OP.

Picking skin
Binges
Restriction
Eating a whole loaf of bread in one sitting
Frequent Irregular eating (steak at 11??)
Inability to cook
Rules around food

I think you need to have a serious chat with him about this once you've both calmed down. Explain how it's affecting you and that you're worried about when the baby comes and beyond.

This is his issue. Your role is to support him but remember you can't solve it for him.

TheVanguardSix · 18/07/2022 00:26

I really, really feel for you. He sounds very much like my ex husband. And yes, my ex's eating disorder and bad habits did affect our children. It's inevitable that his bad habits will spill over into your children's lives. In order to make himself feel better, he won't fix his bad habits, he'll normalise them by passing them onto the kids.

He takes zero responsibility for his own actions.

This is the crux of the matter. This and also the fact that he probably has significant addiction/MH issues. I just don't think you're going to win this one. I am so sorry to say this but he seems not so much unwilling but unable to confront his problem. That for me is what really came home to roost with my ex. He could not confront his problems. It was not only his refusal to confront them, but more than that, he seemed to have blinders on when it came to just owning his shit and taking some control over it. He could not do it. Just couldn't.
We are divorcing for a different reason but his issues around eating and his weird ways and habits certainly explained so much to me when I finally did file for divorce. My ex could not and still doesn't own his shit, take responsibility. And his shit landed him in prison... and still! Nothing is ever quite his fault.

SparkyIce · 18/07/2022 00:27

^What Dolphine said.

It’s no way to live (for you).

WeAreBob · 18/07/2022 00:43

Why did you pick this guy? There's millions of men. There really are better ones out there. Why saddle yourself with this? You knew what he was like before settling in for a life with him.

I dont have any advice. It just sounds exhausting and like it will be exhausting for years and years to come. Everything will be your fault. You'll have to keep your mouth shut for a quiet life but that quiet life will still have him and his eating. It isn't going to change.

You just have to decide if this is the life you want or if it is time to make a change.

pointythings · 18/07/2022 11:10

I stopped thinking about his side when you said 'he was berating you'.

He doesn't get to do that. If he wants to weigh portions, he can do it.

He's very mentally unwell and needs proper help from a qualified psychologist specialising in eating disorders. He will affect your DC's wellbeing with his food issues, that is a given. He needs an ultimatum: he seeks help and changes, or he ships out and you split up. For your DC's sake you don't have any other options.

Runningdownthehill22 · 18/07/2022 11:15

That does sound very hard to live with. You can’t shop or eat as a family for a start. The only thing I can suggest is to completely leave him to it. I don’t know if I could tbh.

KosherDill · 18/07/2022 11:35

AluckyEllie · 17/07/2022 23:41

He sounds grim. How unattractive to not take ownership of his issues and just blame everyone else. How is he going to cope when your attention is on the baby? Do you jointly own your home/share finanaces etc? Do you have family support? Is he supportive with the pregnancy?

I agree. His blaming and lack of self discipline are awful.

I'd ask him to leave until he gets sorted, frankly. You don't need this shit with a baby coming.

KosherDill · 18/07/2022 11:36

WeAreBob · 18/07/2022 00:43

Why did you pick this guy? There's millions of men. There really are better ones out there. Why saddle yourself with this? You knew what he was like before settling in for a life with him.

I dont have any advice. It just sounds exhausting and like it will be exhausting for years and years to come. Everything will be your fault. You'll have to keep your mouth shut for a quiet life but that quiet life will still have him and his eating. It isn't going to change.

You just have to decide if this is the life you want or if it is time to make a change.

I wondered that myself.