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DH and food - bit of an AIBU? (Long)

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Paprikapommes · 17/07/2022 22:45

I need to understand if I've overstepped the mark. Yesterday whilst DH was berating me for not having weighed the items in the breakfast I made us, I snapped - told him that he had disordered eating, it's not my responsibility and he didn't have to eat the breakfast.

He stopped the car got out and left me in the middle of the road to walk home. Since then it's either silence treatment or going over and over the same thing and how hurt he is. I have apologised but I can't say it was my sincerest, and tbh I honestly feel that if it resonated that much with him then it's because there's an element of truth

A few things that made me say what I did:

  • he's addicted to carbs, he could eat a whole loaf of bread no problem, regularly just walks to the bread bin and mindlessly eats a few slices before or after meals
  • he binge eats, to the point that when he can't sleep and then he feels the need to sedate himself with food to sleep
  • up until very recently he has had two extremes: eat everything or restrict to 1,500 calories.
  • he has very little control. If we have sweet treats, nice bread or beer in the house it won't last more than a day.
  • he eats at odd times, very little routine and most of the time we eat separately which I find incredibly sad and lonely.
  • I regularly go to the fridge and something had been mindlessly eaten that I've bought for a specific reason, it's never replaced. I've reached a point where I actually try to buy some stuff that he has previously said he doesn't like, to avoid this happening and he will still eat it just because it's there
  • he obsesses/worries over social occasions where food is the focus, and actively avoids them especially if they're being held by people he considers to be overweight, as he finds it hard to regulate his eating around them (his paraphrased words)

Bit of background: he grew up in a labouring household with 1950s values. DMIL fills the table 3 times a day. Mentality of eat large, food is fuel/love. He's never grown out of it, never learnt to cook. DHs job is sedentary, it's been a tough few years and he's also an emotional eater who's now the wrong side of a youthful metabolism. He's gained significant weight that he's unhappy with.

Food-wise when left to himself, until very recently he's basically lived off ready meals and convenience food since leaving home. Doesn't "have the time" or the inclination to cook. But h
Positively he's reached a point of unhappiness where he's been to see a food therapist, which I supported. Howver she basically seems to have pointed out the bloody obvious without any real guidance or addressing the underlying causes and simply said; eat less carbs, cook from fresh and eat more veg and protein. This has caused him to do a 180 and he now has 4 very rigid and time consuming recipes that he will only cook. I enjoy cooking and I couldn't be arsed with what he's chosen to fixate on. He's just cooked homemade soup in the middle of a heatwave, he's eating tonnes of red meat. Cooks at really bizarre times, will start making a steak and raw salad at 11pm, and will then store hot meat and raw veggies in Tupperware together in the fridge. A recipe for food poisoning IMO and very expensive. I'm pregnant and so when he offers me the food the next day, I don't want the risk.

For context he can cook but definitely benefits from rigid guidance. We shared Hello Fresh boxes for a while during lockdown to help him learn and he was great, but he said it took too long and I ended up cooking them, when I can cook just fine and don't need to pay a premium. So unless I make something we don't eat together.

Today I did a weekly shop and after our fight and DH explicitly said to not shop for him, he doesn't need me to and he'll do his own, he then went an hour after me which is ridiculous in itself. I bought just enough food for me, I've gone down to the fridge an hour later and he's already started eating my yogurts. When I called him out on it, that apparently that makes me controlling. I'm not, if he wanted yogurts there were two opportunities to get him yogurts. I realise these are tiny petty things, but it builds up and it's just so frustrating!! And he can't even see the double standards of it when I point it out. Instead he stropped off to the corner shop and bought a huge litre of luxury creamy compote yogurt which I doubt will make it to tomorrow evening

So DH is fixated on the fact that I have, in his mind accused him of having a mental illness. Whereas I see disordered eating as a spectrum between normal eating and an eating disorder, and it's clearly something he struggles with. I've had friends with severe eating disorders so a diagnosis is not something I would never throw around. In fact I have had disordered eating myself during my teens, restricting and bingeing and I often feel like eating food in our house is a race against time and I can see myself slipping back into those patterns

I'm just exhausted by this, I realise he's trying to get help and impeove but it never seems to be in a sustainable and healthy way. I'm becoming increasingly resentful at how pervasive it has become in my life. I just don't know how I can deal with this better

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Upsideandundergarments · 19/07/2022 14:10

Really feel for you and you need to look after yourself with all this especially when you're pregnant. You mentioned growing up in a house of alcoholics and a lot of what he's coming out with is the addiction script i.e. 'It's fine, as long as I put rules in place I can control it', 'It's your fault this is happening because x,y,z', 'I need it to relax/ sleep/ turn off from work' and anger at being confronted/ called out. This could be triggering for you which is why you need to prioritise your wellbeing.

As with all addictions/ unhealthy relationships to things you can't help someone unless they want to help themselves. It's really hard with food because you can't just go cold turkey and never eat again. You need to detach with love. Calmly explain once the impact this is having on you and that you are worried for the kids, you love him but he needs to seek proper help and you will no longer be engaging. Then don't. Seperate fridge/ lock boxes for the fridge to put your stuff in. Make healthy meals that he is welcome to a plate off if he lets you know but otherwise you will look after yourself and the kids. If he tries to draw you into his rules/ discussions then calmly state that you won't engage until he's working with a professional. So, so, so much easier said than done I know. Also don't issue ultimatums you aren't prepared to follow through on but if he eating really is that disordered it could spiral so just get your ducks in a row in case things do take a turn.

Bumpsadaisie · 19/07/2022 14:26

When people are assessed for therapy, the assessment is looking at whether the person can think about whether they are playing some part in their own difficulties, and whether they think that there is a problem that they want to change. People do well in therapy if they are at the point where they are thinking, hell, I have got a problem, I really need to look at this, and I really need help.

It doesn't sound to me like your DH is quite in that place yet. He wants to carry on as he is doing, and he doesn't want confront reality.

He is still at the stage where he wants the external world to conform and fit in with him - i.e. you should be weighing out food too, you should do this and you should not do that - and if you would just bend to his idea of how things should be, all would be well! Regardless of the fact that this behaviour would be madness if you started doing it.

If you try to point reality out to him - i.e. that this is disordered eating, that it is a huge problem in your relationship plus in his relationship with his new baby and role as a father to be - he experiences that as you attacking him, being cruel, being controlling, being whatever - anything to locate the problem external to him and allow him to cling on to his defences against reality.

Clearly the reality is so incredibly painful and frightening for him that he will go to any lengths to avoid having to face it. Who knows what it is that he is so frightened of.

Not sure where that leaves you, tbh. All you can do is be an advocate for reality and for normal eating, and weather the storms. He might gradually shift if he sees you kindly but firmly refusing to join him in madness.

If it is all too much you would have to consider separating.

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