Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

If you had an absent father growing up?

89 replies

BiscoffSundae · 10/07/2022 20:48

If you had an absent father growing up does it bother you now as an adult? Everywhere I read people say it doesn’t bother kids but just wondered how people feel now as an adult if it bothers them now or looking back?

OP posts:
tiredmumma8696 · 10/07/2022 20:50

It doesn't bother me. My dad left when I was 3 and haven't seen or heard from him since. For me I just don't have a dad as I don't know any different

BananaSpanner · 10/07/2022 20:58

Under 10- didn’t bother me at all, knew no different and was happy and loved.
10-20- bothered me at times. Went through a difficult stage with my mum(teen hormones vs menopause) felt different to other more nuclear and wealthier families. Wanted to meet him, mum tried to facilitate but he didn’t want to know which was quite hard to deal with.
20-30- occasionally bothered me, mostly when drunk.
30-40- can’t remember it bothering me at all.
40+ - feel a bit sorry for my kids because they have so little family anyway- I’m also an only child and my husband only has a small family.
Also my mum has been ill and I feel for her being on her own and for me being the only one to care for her.

On the whole, it’s not a small thing and has had an effect but it hasn’t stopped me being happy.

dudsville · 10/07/2022 20:59

Mine left aged 10. The fact that he could just up and leave me really knocked my self esteem.

elbigbx · 10/07/2022 21:01

My experience is different as my dad was absent/on and off my whole childhood however now we are very close. It definitely still affects me as an adult in ways I didn’t think it would, it’s made relationships with men hard as I push them away at every single hurdle. Any slight inconvenience or wrong doing I run away and I believe that’s down to my dad constantly letting me down as a child and not showing up when expected. I love him dearly and as mentioned we are so close now and he’s making up for lost time with his granddaughters but I view men in the worse ways because of it.

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:02

Don’t know to be honest
even when he was around he never liked me and made that quite clear so I have no reference point
I see good dads on tv and some times in my day to day life (truthfully it’s rare I see a good dad) so maybe I can daydream about it but never had a dad who loved me to really even miss it or want it
but I think it’s something I feel

I see it a bit like - I’m always thirsty but never satisfied
it dawned on me a few months ago actually - the reason why I can eat like a human dustbin, literally never full, is probably because it’s like… emptiness
but yeah I don’t know if I care that he’s not around but somewhere in my psyche I think I care

Blanca87 · 10/07/2022 21:04

I think when you have no contact it’s fine as you are not yo-yoing emotionally. They are not there so there is no frame of reference or expectation. The inconsistency of a parental relationship that causes disrupted attachment and long term feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness.

pastypirate · 10/07/2022 21:06

My dad was a bloody nightmare. More absent would have been better.

WolverineBluey · 10/07/2022 21:18

Yes think that was just what I was trying to put a point on, blanca before I read your post. There was no false hope along the way, so it just was what it was. Growing up I was always profoundly uncomfortable around anyone's dad though, like the relationship was something I just couldn't understand.

My dad's behaviour was so unusual and extreme it is only now, in my 40s, that it seems very likely a personality disorder of some kind was in play.

He died alone. The police had to put out a next of kin appeal. I suppose it bothers me he let that happen. It could have so, so easily been a different story.

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:25

Blanca87 · 10/07/2022 21:04

I think when you have no contact it’s fine as you are not yo-yoing emotionally. They are not there so there is no frame of reference or expectation. The inconsistency of a parental relationship that causes disrupted attachment and long term feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness.

I didn’t find no contact “fine”
im sure that’s not how you meant it to come across
but it isn’t a competition and having a sibling who. Doesn’t give a fuck about you hurts regardless of how much contact you have

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:25

Sorry not sibling - parent
(my head was still in another thread!)

northernlady15 · 10/07/2022 21:26

My dad left when I was 8 and it's really affected me growing up. It's only now mid 30's that I've realised I have suffer abandonment issues and am under going therapy for it.

BiscoffSundae · 10/07/2022 21:28

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:25

I didn’t find no contact “fine”
im sure that’s not how you meant it to come across
but it isn’t a competition and having a sibling who. Doesn’t give a fuck about you hurts regardless of how much contact you have

That’s what I’m unsure of surely knowing a parent wanted no contact at all with you can’t be easy? At least a yo yo one you know at times that did think about you? Rather than just wanting absolutely nothing to do with you.

OP posts:
lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:31

I think there is this idea that some people have it harder than others if a parent isn’t around or if they are in and out etc etc
some people cope better than others

mostly I am ok and can function
but did take it personally that I was seen as so worthless to them that maintaining or even attempting contact was not even worth pursuing

but equally there’s nothing they can do about it now
I’m fun and shit and they get none of my time and who needs time or love from someone who can do something so evil anyway
fuck them

BiscoffSundae · 10/07/2022 21:38

Yes it’s always said that totally absent is better but my father wasn’t around growing up but he always without fail sent a birthday and Xmas card (no money he could never afford it) but it did mean something to me that he still thought about me even if he didn’t see me.

OP posts:
Somemenarewankers · 10/07/2022 21:38

Probably not what you want to hear, but yes it does. It's usually triggered by other people mentioning their family of course, and then it's like a physical pain. Not big and ignorable, but it's there.

I also find the concept of having a relationship with a father baffling. It's like my imagination can't stretch to understanding what that would be like. I found it tricky at first to understand DH's relationship with DC as a father because it was so unfamiliar (and he's the most, loving, loyal, kind, trustworthy man who ever lived)

Absentdadnamechange · 10/07/2022 21:38

I was born as a result of a shortlived (extramarital?) relationship. My parents never lived together but my dad showed up to visit me 2-3 times a year throughout my childhood. He was quite flaky about this and I realise in retrospect that eventually my mum stopped telling me in advance if he was coming to see me, she waited for him to actually turn up. He was sometimes fun but he didn't feel like a proper dad, there was no familial intimacy, he was just this bloke who sometimes turned up and occasionally took me to expensive shops and let me choose toys or clothes.

The thing I remember finding difficult in childhood was being able to explain where he was - I remember primary school friends asking me whether my parents were divorced, and not really knowing how to answer.

By the time I was a teenager most of my friends seemed to live in single parent households and I didn't confront that need to explain any more. Plus I suppose teenagers are much more oriented towards friendships than family relationships, or at least i certainly was. He paid my mobile phone bill and we stayed in touch slightly more via text, but there was still no 'real dad' closeness. Overall his relative absence didn't bother me at this age.

As a young adult (and ever since, really) I've been less in contact with him. Life is busy and when I do see him, I feel that I'm expected to do the emotional work and the good manners (I politely listen while he talks about himself). Objectively I can see he is a kind-hearted, generous, self-absorbed, thoughtless man, who isn't really cut out to be a father and presumably did not really want to be one.

My first serious relationship was really unhealthy - I committed much too quickly to someone (much older) with whom I was not really compatible. It was quite a controlling relationship in both directions, and it took me much too long to leave it. Since then (15 years ago!) I've kept my relationships quite short, always with one foot out the door, quick to cut my losses. I'm not sure whether my first awful relationship was a response to fatherlessness, or whether it was about my mother's emotionally distant 'love', or whether it was entirely coincidental; and I'm not sure whether my subsequent expendable relationships are about fatherlessness, emotionally distant mothering, or simply explained by that first relationship where I accepted too much and stayed too long.

I had my own children via sperm donation. In some ways that was about comfort with a single mother setup and feeling confident replicating it, in some ways it was i suppose about having a family in a format I understood (and I think that's defensible - plenty of parents in nuclear families are doing much the same sort of mindless reproduction of their own parents' arrangements), and certainly in some ways it was about being aware that parents other than the birth mother can and do disappear, flake out, not show up when they say they will, and wanting to protect my children from that.
I do feel theoretically capable of having a healthy relationship now. I feel very much healed by having my own children. I don't know if I mean healed from that bad relationship, or healed from my unexceptional childhood, or just healed in a very broad sense of the various knocks and bruises of life.

I talk with my children a lot about how our family came to look as it does. Partly that's the current psychological fashion as I understand it (that kids can cope with pretty much anything provided they're given the recognition of their experience and the words to help them describe it), partly its a response to remembering my own inability to explain where the hell my dad was.

I do now feel slightly sad for my children that they weren't born into a big happy Waltons type family. I feel briefly envious when I see grandparents doting on their grandchildren, and I wish my DS in particular had other people to share his many and complex feelings with. But that's about more than just not having a dad, and perhaps fewer such families exist than I imagine, anyway.

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:40

One thing I have found tho and im sure it’s due to this - is that I’m always guarded. I rely on no man for anything. Even if I fell pregnant and was happily married (unlikely lol) I don’t think I’d ever believe the man would actually like, stick around or anything
that’s something that happens to other people

Gettissuesgotissues · 10/07/2022 21:44

It has many deep seated effects on lots of aspects of life - there's a huge scientific literature on this.

Fuzzyhippo · 10/07/2022 21:44

Yes, it's really taken a toll on my life especially now as an adult. It gave me a very unhealthy view of men. I had my son at a very young age and it makes me sad that he also won't have a relationship with his father. But I guess history repeats itself

lilkiki · 10/07/2022 21:45

Fuzzyhippo · 10/07/2022 21:44

Yes, it's really taken a toll on my life especially now as an adult. It gave me a very unhealthy view of men. I had my son at a very young age and it makes me sad that he also won't have a relationship with his father. But I guess history repeats itself

Same! Sucks

BiscoffSundae · 10/07/2022 21:47

Gettissuesgotissues · 10/07/2022 21:44

It has many deep seated effects on lots of aspects of life - there's a huge scientific literature on this.

All I see on MN is people saying it doesn’t bother kids, can’t miss what you don’t have, kids only need one parent etc

OP posts:
itsmellslikepopcarn · 10/07/2022 21:50

Somehow it seems to have bothered me more and more as I’ve got older. Very anxious attachment style + abandonment issues. Him and my mum divorced when I was 2, saw him three times around age 9, and he contacted me at 19 (after a year of my half brother finding me on fb, and he wanted me to come meet him, not him meet me) so I didn’t bother meeting him. He died a few years ago, probably only early 60s. I don’t even know what he died of. He had three other kids that he stayed in the lives of but didn’t care to bother with me or my sibling.

SaltedCaramelPopcorn · 10/07/2022 21:52

My father left 2 months before I was born and never wanted to be involved. Can honestly say it's never bothered me - he was never there so nothing to miss. Never had any negative comments from anyone, even as a child when I said I didn't have a dad. By all accounts he was a bit of a waste of space so I think not having him in my life was probably a positive!

LeniGray · 10/07/2022 21:54

My dad was mostly around, but the times when he was away affected me badly. I’ve had a volatile relationship with him since I was a teenager, when he worked away from home for 3 years, coming home on weekends or every other. It’s had a knock on affect throughout my life, I was diagnosed with an attachment disorder when I was 3, which was the first time I was referred to a psychologist. I’ve had ongoing psychiatric issues throughout my life, in part due to my relationship with him (I don’t blame him, it just transpired that way) - other factors were at play.

Pattypatience · 10/07/2022 22:07

Yes it did for me.. I can remember watching my little friends playing with their dads and wondering what it would be like to have that, I would wonder about him all the time and felt so abandoned.. I feel bad for kids without a dad and have a deep-seated hate for feckless fathers

Swipe left for the next trending thread