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what would you do if you realised you basically don't have friends?

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polka141 · 30/05/2022 21:04

you're early 30s, left the area you grew up in fairly young and have moved around a fair bit with work. you have one or two friends you have kept in touch with over the years who you make the effort to meet with probably 1-2/year as you no longer live in the same city but when you do you realise they have other friends theyre closer to and see more frequently. you don't have "a group". each time you move, you settle into work and have "work friends" that you occasionally see out of work e.g christmas party etc but nothing regular and again they're mostly from the area and have established friendship groups.

This is me. I also have a wonderful DH. I don't really have any particular hobbies, I go to the gym (have done for years but never made friends from it). Any advice what I could do at this age to make meaningful friendships?

OP posts:
IodineQueen · 02/06/2022 09:41

Roughly where in the south do you live OP? If you’re anywhere near me I’d happily be your friend. I’m early 30s too, no children and feel very similarly.

polka141 · 02/06/2022 10:38

Hello @IodineQueen i was trying to deliberately be a bit vague re:location etc as it would be a bit embarrassing to be identified but please PM me where you’re based if you’d like to?

OP posts:
Starlia · 02/06/2022 12:45

At the age of 38 or so I joined a sporting team made up of people I had never met before. It was a sport I was confident in playing but it was a huge step in putting myself out there.
Now that I'm early 40s, I've discovered friendships take effort and work. I'm an introvert and find it super difficult to suggest social events or another meet up. But I make myself do it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I have learned not to take it personally.
I'm not really into big groups of friends or the notion of having lots of besties for life. I'm happy to have closer one-on-one friends but I do force myself to go to group invites. I usually end up having a good time. It can be bloody hard work though when all I want is to be introvert-y. I also realise that lots of us are lonely - and I have to make an effort to remedy that.

Mary46 · 02/06/2022 17:25

A sport is great. I do walking no friendships yet did know one from school though she nice. I find cliques dont help when you join things !!

Spitescreen · 02/06/2022 18:41

polka141 · 02/06/2022 00:19

@BookWorm45 I think you've hit the nail on the head. I think I would probably "allow" or "treat" myself to a few hours of guilt-free time a week consistently. Usually that's a Friday so I still have 2 days to be productive but can be flexible to Saturday or Sunday or occasionally in the week if my weekend's packed. I obviously do need some down time to do nothing and/or time with DH but equally don't want every Friday/Saturday whenever it is I allow myself this allocated free time to be a date night every time. So I guess I could and would want to commit to every fortnight-ish.

What would I want to do in this time? Again quite flexible - anything from Friday night drinking/pub/going out/dinner to a sports/exercise activity or something outdoorsy like a nice walk/BBQ or even just female company to just chat and hang out with. The kind I have had and enjoyed in the past (be it old housemates/ friends at uni/early years of professional life). Board games, wine and a natter sounds idyllic. Again doesnt have to be female but the kind of company that fills the void that your own romantic relationship cannot (or atleast my DH does not, lovely as he is, he does not and cannot engage in the kind of conversation I'm after).

I cant help but wonder if these things have to just come by organically, you cant replicate the friendships you make in school / when you first start uni or work for the first time etc. Perhaps it cant be forced by joining a group. I also wonder if my life circumstances have meant I've blown it, the lack of stability and moving around has forced me to lose the friendships I did have. Also as I previously mentioned - I have nothing in common now with the people I grew up (who i am now geographically closest to). How do I explain this - when you're a child you just want someone to play with and for that purpose it was fine. But now our adult lives have gone in totally opposite directions. I have a lot more in common with my professional circles but they have likeminded long-term friendships, many (most) of them were privately educated etc so from the beginning harboured friendships with people who have ended up living a similar adult life. Whereas I grew up in a not so nice part of the UK, went to a state school, made something of my life and met people from more privileged backgrounds and have joined these circles and now feel in a way like I dont fit in in either world.

These are the beliefs holding you back from friendships, OP— the false belief that your life, your moving around, your social movement into the professional classes, is so unusual it’s limited your friendships, and that it’s unheard of for people to make friendships later in life. Your life sounds deeply normal to me, and resembles mine apart from the fact that I’ve also moved around a lot internationally to study and work, and I’m now back in my home city for the first time in over 20 years since just before Covid. I keep up with my distant friends, but no longer know anyone here so had to start from scratch. I’ve made friends via work, environmental volunteering, a choir, meeting someone in an art gallery and clicking, and getting on like a house on fire with someone we hired to draw plans for a house renovation, who has now become a close friend. DH has a few nice colleagues. And luckily, my son’s friends’ parents are also very cool, and have absolutely been open to being befriended, despite being busy and having their own established friendships. (They are probably the only ‘group’ of the lot — the others are individual friendships.) Have you actually tried making friends at work?

Coffeepot72 · 15/01/2023 10:12

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Coffeepot72 · 15/01/2023 10:16

DH had a health scare a few years ago (false alarm thankfully) but it scared the living daylights out of me, and jolted me into padding out my life a bit, more friends/hobbies etc as I would have been left with a pretty hollow existence without him. So I suppose I’m guilty of doing what an earlier poster mentioned, of making friends in case something happens to DH? Although I doubt any amount of friends or interests would fill the gap a partner/spouse would leave?

Goatbilly · 15/01/2023 12:45

Coffeepot72 · 15/01/2023 10:16

DH had a health scare a few years ago (false alarm thankfully) but it scared the living daylights out of me, and jolted me into padding out my life a bit, more friends/hobbies etc as I would have been left with a pretty hollow existence without him. So I suppose I’m guilty of doing what an earlier poster mentioned, of making friends in case something happens to DH? Although I doubt any amount of friends or interests would fill the gap a partner/spouse would leave?

That's sadly because friends aren't really valued as much as a "nuclear family" concept. Have you told the people you're "befriending" you're only doing so because of your own selfish reasons?

Coffeepot72 · 15/01/2023 16:32

@Goatbilly surely anyone seeking to make new friends/connections is doing so because they want more people in their lives? Is this anymore selfish than seeking a partner because you’d rather not be single?

bellac11 · 15/01/2023 16:41

Goatbilly · 15/01/2023 12:45

That's sadly because friends aren't really valued as much as a "nuclear family" concept. Have you told the people you're "befriending" you're only doing so because of your own selfish reasons?

What bullshit this is!

By the way new friend, just letting you know that Im making friends with you because I want to.... erm.... make some friends.

Like everyone who makes friends, people widen their friendship group

WinterFoxes · 15/01/2023 16:57

It's so hard if you move around a lot.

In your position I'd start by developing some hobbies that fast-track friendships. That's the sort of hobbies where people get the chance to chat a lot or open up a bit, e.g. book club, creative-writing or art class, WI, hiking club, maybe a running club.
You won't get much chance to chat if you join a choir or swim club, so don't go for those unless you really want to.

Aim to have three different hobbies a week - a couple on weeknights and one at weekends or vice versa.

Be open to different types of friendship. I started out really wanting a close friend but have realised that more casual friendships have great social value too.
Maybe think in terms of developing different forms of friendship -

  • Work friends or clients you get on with who you meet with to talk shop (which tbh is one of my favourite forms of friendship as I love my job) - Go for coffee or a glass of wine wiht them. Agree to meet up at any work-related conferences.
  • Neighbours - just be friendly - invite them over for coffee or a BBQ. Ask about their kids, their holidays etc.
  • Get involved in a local charity or political organisation. Shared values can help make close friendships.
  • Be open to friendships outside the box - older women who may have more time on their hands, or people who have newly arrived in UK and know no one.
  • Friendships that are based around the need for you to turn up: tennis doubles, mah-jong or bridge or bunco groups, pub quizzes etc.
Coffeepot72 · 15/01/2023 17:10

@WinterFoxes thats a very good point about being open minded, one of my best friends is quite a lot older than me, we just clicked!

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