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He's making me question everything!

89 replies

OverMyHead01 · 27/02/2022 06:46

Ive been with my OH coming upto 3 years now, engaged for about 3 months. We rent together no children of our own but kids from previous relationships.

It started early on actually but I just gathered he was stressed so let it slide.
He constantly criticises me and belittles me. Everything that goes wrong its my fault if we end up stuck in traffic he shouts at me for it. His trousers ripped the other day and that was my fault. It's got worse this past 6 months though, he started calling me clingy and needy, I dont think I am by a long shot I think its just another power play on his part.
Every morning before we leave for work he always gives me a kiss and tells me he loves me, 2 mornings last week he didn't so I just mentioned it you know, if something doesn't happen that normally happens all the time I'm bound to notice it. His response was.. oh sorry like, I didn't know I had to do it every single morning. You've gone right clingy you.
He hasn't told me he loves me since because he knows I want to hear it!? Head games?
I've done nothing but love this man I've never had a go at him about anything but he's always picking faults with me. It's like he always knows best and he can never do no wrong.
I've been torn this weekend not sure what I want anymore. When I look at him my heart fills with love because when it's good it's amazing but then when I think of the way he can treat me I'm confused again.
Because he called me clingy and needy I don't go upto him anymore for kisses and cuddles like I used to I wait till he wants it but according to him I've gone cold towards him so I must be cheating?!
Everytime I talk to him about anything, days out, the wedding, kids, family he snaps at me and jumps down my throat or bites my head off. He says he feels like I'm planning his life for him. No, I'm just talking about stuff for our life making memories and days out are only ideas.
I go to bed every night wondering if I'm good enough for him because I can never seem to do anything right.

Help me please am I actually too clingy or is it all him?

OP posts:
spacehardware · 27/02/2022 09:57

"Everything he said he loved about me when we first got together now just seems to annoy him."

This is a classic pattern : idealise - devalue - discard

Honestly just dump him. Relationships are supposed to enhance your life. This one doesn't. Just get rid. All the what if/why does he/how can I be better. Pfft. It's just not worth it.

pumpkinpie01 · 27/02/2022 10:11

This relationship is damaging your child , your job is to protect your child. Leave him asap.

LampLighter414 · 27/02/2022 10:16

You don't sound well matched or good for each other. End it.

WonderingFree · 27/02/2022 10:26

Your posts are really distressing to read - and especially how he treats your child. Don’t ignore the 🚩 and remember 1 red flag is enough.

FinallyHere · 27/02/2022 11:18

He constantly criticises me and belittles me.

Why on earth would you want to be married to someone like this?

Well done for noticing this now, break off your engagement right away and find someone who enhances your life.

He says he doesn't need to impress me anymore because he's got me and that I'm still in the honeymoon period and he thinks I'm still trying to impress him.

Famous MN saying, when someone tells you who they are, believe them.

Do not marry this man.

Natty13 · 27/02/2022 11:27

You don't love him, you love the man he was pretending to be.

He's actually admitted he was pretending to be nice/make an effort to "get" you and now it's worked he can be his real (horrible) self. Trust me, it isn't going to get better, only worse.

GrazingSheep · 27/02/2022 11:29

For the sake of your children leave him. For your own sake too.

PonyPatter44 · 27/02/2022 11:33

Are you pregnant, OP? Have you talked about having kids together?

CrystalAlice · 27/02/2022 11:35

One more voice saying it sounds like the only thing you're doing wrong is staying with this cruel man. Someone who loves you doesn't play mind games and make you feel unhappy all the time. I hope you find the self-respect to leave him.

Pinkbonbon · 27/02/2022 11:39

Standard abuser. Run for the hills! Run fast, run far.

Whatdramain2022 · 27/02/2022 11:46

It's over you know it and don't need us to tell you. It's sad, but you can't live your life like this.

Crumbleburntbits · 27/02/2022 11:54

@OverMyHead01 have you noticed yet that nobody has suggested that you stay with this man? We can all see that he’s abusive and you (and your lovely child) deserve so much better. I’ll add my voice to the chorus of ‘leave him’. Flowers

TheBigPeach · 27/02/2022 11:58

It’ll only get worse if you marry him. What was he like with the mother of his children, I bet she has few stories to tell.

IsThePopeCatholic · 27/02/2022 12:02

You need to leave, op. He absolutely will get worse. You will be so unhappy if you stay, and so will your child. He has been manipulating you all this time and now he is showing his true colours. He’s horrible. Protect yourself and your child. Kick him out.

Mummytobe93 · 27/02/2022 12:19

I know it seems like a harsh decision but please make all the steps necessary for you & your DC to leave OP.

Do not marry him or have children together. He’s only going to get worse

notanothershitday · 27/02/2022 13:05

Please leave him, your relationship sounds like mine in the earlier days and I let it go because I loved him so much, he made me more and more dependent on him, we married a year into our relationship, now 16 years later I feel trapped and frightened, he absolutely hates my older children

(From a previous relationship), we have two Children together, small age gap and he wanted more as soon has the second one was born he wanted to try for more, whenever I speak to my older children we fight and I mean fight, I was punched in the face last night and this is a regular weekly thing, he is sexually abusive mentally abusive and makes sure I've never got any money, in them first two years I could talk and laugh about anything with him, we would always go out and have fun, once married he turned into the worst person I have ever met, he showed me who he really is, I feel so trapped and have asked him to levee many times which ends in violence, now I keep my mouth shut and the house is in silence when his home, I never ever thought I would end up in a abusive relationship and thought I was a strong person but they wear you down, please don't end up like me, leave and be happy, reading your post just sounded so like mine at the beginning, please leave and get your children away from him x

bluedodecagon · 27/02/2022 13:12

You’re asking the wrong question. Let’s say He does love you and you love him. So what? He is critical of your child. He’s nasty to your child.

When you had a child you took them on as a responsibility. You have to put them first not yourself first. I don’t care if you have him he’s harming your child you need to grow up and be an adult and be a decent parent and leave.

CousinKrispy · 27/02/2022 13:13

Run.

Criticism does not work in relationships.

You can't have a healthy relationship if your partner's method of handling difference is through criticism and belittling rather than something appropriately respectful and supportive.

Leave now.

MunchyMonsters · 27/02/2022 13:37

Relationships shouldn't leave one person feeling bad and on egg shells.

He's abusive. Get your child away from him.

Yamalt · 27/02/2022 14:20

Ask yourself OP, what do YOU want?

If your answer is along the lines of:

him to change.
things to be how they used to be.
learn how to be invisible so he doesn’t criticise / belittle / shout at / dismiss me.

Realise and accept that none of those things are indeed possible.

The long term damage this abusive relationship is doing to you and especially to your child is going to have far reaching consequences, so the sooner you are able to observe the stark reality, the sooner you can heal and hope that your child forgives you when older.

TalkingEar · 27/02/2022 14:40

Text book emotional abuse, he’s probably a narcissist too. The sooner you leave the better, cutting all ties. Emotional abusers will still try to control you even when you’ve left-believe me!

bedheadedzombie · 27/02/2022 15:16

He is training you and being nasty about (to?) child. Fuck that, why are you still with him? It's not about how good the good bits are, it's about how he treats you when it isn't good. And that sounds so miserable. By staying with him you will only make yourself and your child miserable. Choose your child, choose for this one chance you get to give them a loving and peaceful childhood, choose a happy family life for them. You don't need a man for that.

IrishKatie1971 · 27/02/2022 16:18

This was me three years ago, minus the children and the shared home. He started being indifferent and playing mind games quite early on, but like you, I excused it. Multiple repeated instances of nastiness interspersed with apparent generosity, compliments and kindness. Long distance so in some ways I kept thinking, fresh start now, I'll go back and he promised to change and was sorry and said all the right things. I had known him a long time... so I thought, well, we have shared history, we can work things out. Lost count of how many time I walked, ended it and then went back. Two or three days into being back with him, he'd make a snarky comment, openly admire another woman, craning his neck and ogling and then make a snide "joke" about my appearance, something I couldn't change like my skin, my bone structure etc. We'd be having a nice time relaxing at home and he'd announce he was bored out of nowhere. Then have another verbal jibe at me that I didn't do the dishes, despite insisting I did not need to wash up and he would do it. I could never win. I was in a power play, a game for him to keep me in my place, insecure about myself and constantly forgiving him.

When I called him out on what he had said or done, he would either deny it happened or shift the blame onto me, claiming I had said or done something obnoxious myself.... completely untrue. I could be sitting in silence and he would literally come out with some observation about how I didn't look good enough, then deny it, say I was too sensitive, I always misunderstood him.

I never would have named it abuse until I started to google for explanations about why someone would behave like this. Little did I know I was trapped in a version of the abuse cycle, honeymoon period (albeit very brief), followed by tension build, verbal aggression then "apologies". What was confusing was the really "good" times, which could be great. Laughter and getting drunk and great sex... however, now I'm several years out, I look back and understand that the good times weren't actually real if he never really loved or truly ever even liked me. He had had two failed marriages and the second one had a restraining order on him.

So I should have known, right? So many red flags. But when you're in the middle of it and you have "bonded" with this person, you can't see it. It is a trauma bond, have a look online for information about abusive relationships and I bet you will recognise yourself and the situation.

I wasted time but it was a huge lesson in boundaries, self-love, respect and that there really are some horrible people out there who only want to use and put others down in order to feel good about themselves. Please don't waste the rest of your life and expose your poor children to this. The impact on your mental health will be worse than you realise and for young developing brains, even worse. There is a known medical phenomena, dysregulation of the HPA axis, check it out:

narcissistfamilyfiles.com/2017/03/02/adult-children-of-narcissists-face-trauma-induced-health-risks/

There's a ton of information out there about abusive relationships. I'd urge you to open your eyes to what has been done to you and is continuing to be done to you and your children.

It has taken me a good few years to get my self-esteem back on track and I'm ready to date again. In no rush, been single for over three years now, but I will never tolerate any red flags again. This man you are with, he is telling you he hates you. Believe him and start planning your future without him. In ten years time, would you want to be with this person, in the same place, hearing the same manipulation? Never receiving caring, consistent love or respect?

You are wasting your love. Turn those feelings on yourself and love yourself and take the rose coloured spectacles off.

Boiledbeetle · 27/02/2022 16:46

@notanothershitday

Please please try to get out. Before he kills you.

You're on the relationship board so you'll have read enough threads to know this isn't get any better .

Honestly if he's hitting you you need to speak to someone, the police, your gp, a friend, woman's aid. Sooner rather than later as the next punch could kill you.

Please, you're worth more than this.
Flowers

whiteworldgettingwhiter · 27/02/2022 19:31

He says he doesn't need to impress me anymore because he's got me

Op, he is showing you just who he is. Things won't get any better; in fact, they will get worse.

Why are you putting up with this shit???? Why are you letting this horrible man treat you like this? He's supposed to love you! He acts like he hates you.

Please, dump him and run. You and your dc deserve better.