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What to do when your partner never listens and constantly pushes the blame on to you - need coping mechanisms

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Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 11:19

Me and my partner have a baby together, I work 3 days a week, he works 5. I work at home so whilst trying to juggle childcare on my days off looking after my son and whilst trying to work I do the housework (when work is quiet). Otherwise if I don’t do this my partner is too lazy to contribute and I do like to try and do things as a family at weekends so try not to do the housework then.

Ive tried in so many ways to get him to help me (I don’t ask for a lot) though he says I do! All I ask is that between the 2 of us, washing is done (which he never does, I do) the downstairs is hoovered, again mostly by me, the kitchen is to a tidy standard, he does some days but I do most and the bathrooms are cleaned (since being in our house I can count on one hand how many times he’s done it).

We are constantly arguing over this, he says I want my house like a show home (I can guarantee I don’t) we are lucky if our upstairs bedrooms see a hoover once a month - it kills me but I simply can’t do everything and also work plus bring up our son and organise our lives, make sure bills are paid on time etc.

I prepare all the meals and he usually cooks it up whilst I am feeding our son (when he’s finished work) but I also work for 3 of those days so I’m trying to juggle working and preparing meals so that our son eats at a normal time of day.

I ensure all of our sons (and my partners) prescriptions are ordered/collected and do the weekly shop, plan meals, run our pets to the vets when needed (due to my partner not driving) and most of the house/ life admin is done by me.

Financially we can not afford a cleaner and we can not afford for me to not work 3 days.

I’m at my wits end, I’m exhausted, my son isn’t sleeping well and I seem to be the one waking with him at night.

Every time I bring this up my partner just blames my high expectations instead of taking any responsibility for his lack of help. He always says he’ll do more, one day of ‘doing more’ and it’s back to his old ways. He says I nag (which I admit yes I do) but am I wrong to feel upset for taking on most of the childcare/housework/life admin?

When we have arguments it’s hard to keep my cool, I’m so frustrated through years and years of broken promises of change and him denying any of this is his fault. I feel so aggrieved by this.

I just don’t know how much longer I can cope.

Does anyone having any coping mechanisms? Or anything that worked to try and help your OH understand?

I’m considering going to the doctor for medication as I am really depressed about things, I cancel on friends all the time and avoid going out as much as possible.

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Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 12:04

@IKeptYouLikeAnOath I know. I cried this morning thinking about. I really am starting to wonder if it’s an option whilst I get the strength to leave the ar**

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Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 12:05

@RantyAunty

I suspect he's always been like this but worse since the baby came along.

You've asked him and explained to him multiple times.
He's an adult. He knows. He just doesn't care.

Do you own or rent the house you're in?

@RantyAunty we own our house together. He knows it would be hard for me to leave him because he earns the most money (due to me going part time at work).

I think that’s in part why he doesn’t really listen to me

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Newcastleteapot · 22/01/2022 12:07

I did the lower standards stuff. It is hard but required. Get a box or a trug to put and leave his stuff in. Then it’s less annoying. One in each room.

Bathroom - maybe clean the loo if it gets disgusting, clean the things you use.

Dinners. Can you eat large lunches so are less bothered about dinners.

But really, life is too short ! Think of the bay, you don’t want him to think that mummy does it all.

Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 12:13

@Newcastleteapot I’m going to try my best to stick to it.

I keep thinking life is far too short to keep having to ‘nag’ over the house, making me feel guilty that it’s me with the issues around a tidy house.

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RantyAunty · 22/01/2022 12:18

It's sad that so many men take advantage in this way. They have a loving partner and family and wonder why they end up getting left.

Did neither one of you want to get married?

You've tried and he doesn't listen. Like PP have said, start making things easier for yourself by doing just for yourself and your child.

layladomino · 22/01/2022 12:22

It isn't you. You're just with someone who is lazy and selfish and doesn't respect you.

I echo others - I wouldn't call him a good dad at all. A good dad takes some responsibility for his children's home and cares for their mum. Makes sure she doesn't burn out. And it's ever so easy to be good 'fun' dad - I'd happily go to the park / play football if I never had to think about housework. Ditto it's ever so easy to get on with your family. Why wouldn't he, if they're decent people?

Maybe he's lazy by nature, but as pp said - that doesn't excuse him. He can still see you running around if he's even mildly intelligent he'll see that isn't fair. And in any case, you can choose not to be with a lazy person. It's one of the least attractive personality traits, not least because it means you're happy to let other people pick up your slack.

Good to see you've started taking steps. Be ready for him complaining that you're making a point / being petty. Just repeat back to him the stuff he says to you...He can't have it both ways. Either he thinks jobs need doing or they don't. If they don't need doing then he has no reason to complain. If he thinks they do then he needs to get on and do them.

Make sure you also stop with the making appointments, ordering prescriptions. He's perfectly capabale of doing that and is treating you like his PA.

In the time you save, start doing some lovely things with DC, just you and them.

Newestname002 · 22/01/2022 12:38

@Moonstonemummy

I wish he had access to Mn. Ive said so much of this to him but he’s made me out to be controlling/nagging/moody/never happy!

I’m never bloody happy because I’m too busy being mummy to 2 boys

Don't give him access to your thread. This is your safe space to say whatever you need to, and to be given advice on practical steps if you decide to end the relationship. 🌹
Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 12:43

@layladomino

It isn't you. You're just with someone who is lazy and selfish and doesn't respect you.

I echo others - I wouldn't call him a good dad at all. A good dad takes some responsibility for his children's home and cares for their mum. Makes sure she doesn't burn out. And it's ever so easy to be good 'fun' dad - I'd happily go to the park / play football if I never had to think about housework. Ditto it's ever so easy to get on with your family. Why wouldn't he, if they're decent people?

Maybe he's lazy by nature, but as pp said - that doesn't excuse him. He can still see you running around if he's even mildly intelligent he'll see that isn't fair. And in any case, you can choose not to be with a lazy person. It's one of the least attractive personality traits, not least because it means you're happy to let other people pick up your slack.

Good to see you've started taking steps. Be ready for him complaining that you're making a point / being petty. Just repeat back to him the stuff he says to you...He can't have it both ways. Either he thinks jobs need doing or they don't. If they don't need doing then he has no reason to complain. If he thinks they do then he needs to get on and do them.

Make sure you also stop with the making appointments, ordering prescriptions. He's perfectly capabale of doing that and is treating you like his PA.

In the time you save, start doing some lovely things with DC, just you and them.

When you mention - you would happily take to the park/play football if you didn’t have to think about the housework - that has definitely struck a cord. I wonder why I’m so miserable/unenthusiastic when it comes to a day off work with my son, it’s because I’m shattered/have the weight of the world on my shoulders because my lazy arse partner is doing nothing and I’m doing everything!

I just reminded him that next time our son needs his medication he can easily go on to the doctors website and order it himself - he didn’t even know our doctors surgery had a website, so was adamant that was why he’s never done it.

It really is excuse after excuse.

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CoffeeBeansGalore · 22/01/2022 12:53

As others have said, only do what's necessary for you & baby. Stop ordering his prescriptions/other stuff. When he asks can you/have you, your answer is no I'm too busy. On repeat. Yes he works, but he has a lunch break. He can pick up the phone & trudge round to the pharmacy. Or get him to organise one of those prescription delivery services. Note HE organises it.

He needs to buck up. And it is not helping you, it is doing his share in his home.

givememykeys · 22/01/2022 12:59

He isn't going to change, you either need to find a way to make peace with wasting your life and your son growing up learning that this is an acceptable was to treat a partner or you leave.

givememykeys · 22/01/2022 13:00

And organising his prescriptions stops today

Avarua · 22/01/2022 13:04

Seriously though, work 3.5 days and GET THAT CLEANER. Your relationship will improve and you'll all be happier.
Why fight about stuff that can be outsourced. It's a simple solution to a simple problem. Leaving / divorcing is a complex solution to this problem.

Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 13:05

@CoffeeBeansGalore

As others have said, only do what's necessary for you & baby. Stop ordering his prescriptions/other stuff. When he asks can you/have you, your answer is no I'm too busy. On repeat. Yes he works, but he has a lunch break. He can pick up the phone & trudge round to the pharmacy. Or get him to organise one of those prescription delivery services. Note HE organises it.

He needs to buck up. And it is not helping you, it is doing his share in his home.

He needs to buck up. And it is not helping you, it is doing his share in his home.

I never thought of it like that!

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Avarua · 22/01/2022 13:07

"i can't afford a cleaner" is an excuse. You can't afford a divorce.

Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 13:07

@Avarua

Seriously though, work 3.5 days and GET THAT CLEANER. Your relationship will improve and you'll all be happier. Why fight about stuff that can be outsourced. It's a simple solution to a simple problem. Leaving / divorcing is a complex solution to this problem.
If I work 3.5 days I have to pay nursery, by the time I’ve paid nursery and paid a cleaner I’ll be working for nothing.

I understand it’s a solution but really why can’t my partner do bare minimum of housework - clean 1 bathroom, whip a hoover around, take my son for an hour when he finishes work…

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Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 13:07

@Avarua it’s not an excuse! We’re not married anyway.

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elliehamster · 22/01/2022 13:13

Can I respectfully suggest that stopping doing stuff for him won’t change him? Lazy people can simply wait it out, watch the house get in a terrible state and wait until you crack. In the meantime you will feel worse and the resentment will build until you say something you regret.

I think you need to write some things down to help you determine exactly what is bothering you, how it makes you feel (very important! He won’t know how you feel if you don’t know yourself) and what you want from him. Then have a calm conversation where you tell him very clearly how it makes you feel and what you need from him. Stay calm and factual (difficult, I know). If he doesn’t change and he still tries to blame you, say you nag him, bla bla then you have your answer I’m afraid: he is showing you he disrespects you totally. Then you can decide what to do next.

updownroundandround · 22/01/2022 13:14

Op your H is really taking the piss isn't he ?

I see that you are stopping doing his washing, cooking appointments, prescriptions etc, and I think that's great.

I have a couple of questions for you to ask him when he starts to 'complain'...............

Him ''I've got no clean work clothes/underwear !''
You '' Why are you telling me ? Do you think it's my job to pick them up off the floor, wash and iron them and put them away neatly in your drawer/wardrobe, and your job to wear them ?'' Hmm

Him ''There's nothing cooked for supper !''
You ''Do you think it's my job to think up a meal plan and do the shopping and cooking for it, and your job to eat it?'' Hmm

Him ''There's no petrol in the car !''
You ''Do you think it's my job to tax, insure and MOT the car, as well as to fill it with petrol, and your job to just drive it?'' ?

etc etc

tiredofthisshit21 · 22/01/2022 13:20

He's not a good guy though is he. Leave him. Seriously. He thinks you're his skivvy. At the very least, stop doing his washing. He'll soon learn how to work the washing machine when he's run out of clean pants.

Fireflygal · 22/01/2022 13:21

How do you manage money? Why is childcare from your salary, it should be joint.

He doesn't even drive, does he do DIY, gardening, heavy chores??

tiredofthisshit21 · 22/01/2022 13:23

Also, he 'lets you do your own thing'?!! Your view of men is strange - he's not the boss of you - no man should be.

IggyAce · 22/01/2022 13:25

Honestly stop doing things for him he’s an adult he can wash & iron his own clothes and order his own prescriptions.
Long term I think your better off splitting because he’s unlikely to change.

TowandaForever · 22/01/2022 13:25

@Avarua

"i can't afford a cleaner" is an excuse. You can't afford a divorce.
And me people have no ideas of other people realties....
Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 13:25

@elliehamster

Can I respectfully suggest that stopping doing stuff for him won’t change him? Lazy people can simply wait it out, watch the house get in a terrible state and wait until you crack. In the meantime you will feel worse and the resentment will build until you say something you regret.

I think you need to write some things down to help you determine exactly what is bothering you, how it makes you feel (very important! He won’t know how you feel if you don’t know yourself) and what you want from him. Then have a calm conversation where you tell him very clearly how it makes you feel and what you need from him. Stay calm and factual (difficult, I know). If he doesn’t change and he still tries to blame you, say you nag him, bla bla then you have your answer I’m afraid: he is showing you he disrespects you totally. Then you can decide what to do next.

I sadly think this is true in his case. I don’t think he particularly cares if the kitchen is messy/bathrooms unclean. He has never been big into cleaning - which wasn’t such an issue when we didn’t have a child, I had time to do it but now we have an extra responsibility I can’t keep up with the chores, childcare and work.

I have been considering writing it all down, we’ve tried to discuss it but it usually gets discussed when things get bad and we both end up not getting our point across.

My problem is each time I just forgive to easily because I’m too bogged down in work/childcare/chores and any help I can get is a bonus. He knows this I’m sure.

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Moonstonemummy · 22/01/2022 13:29

@Fireflygal it’s not just from my money but what I mean is if I work 3.5 days, pay a cleaner and nursery for that extra half day it won’t be worth it financially.

We share the bills, he pays more because he earns more.

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