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Should I report this man I met? TW sex, controlling behaviour

58 replies

Omniscope · 08/01/2022 09:15

Hello all, I'm a long time lurker but this is my first time making a post.
This is incredibly long so apologies in advance.
I'm not sure if relationships is the right board but I didn't want to brave AIBU.
Short story, I met a man online, I met him in real life twice, the situation became too intense for me so I ended it, but he is keeps texting me and I find it intimidating.
Long story. I came out of a nice relationship (mostly nice, a lovely lovely man, but a bit closed off with his emotions and I felt my emotional needs weren't always being met, there was a lack of communication and this made me feel insecure. I am working on my insecurities which stem from a previous relationship) last year and after a while I missed sex.
I read on here, on the sex board, about websites where you could meet people for consensual NSA or FWB situations so I tried it. I was looking to find a nice regular FWB, not sleep with 100 different men, though there's nothing wrong with that if people do that. I followed advice, was very picky, and did everything I could to keep myself safe. I've met a couple of really nice people, and see one occasionally, it's working well.
I want to caveat this with saying I know it could be dangerous to meet strangers, however it shouldn't be, women should be safe, we should be able to do that without fear. of course unfortunately we can't, so I was careful with vetting, met in public, told my friends and gave my friends their details and numbers. I don't think meeting someone from a sex site is any more dangerous than meeting someone from tinder. In fact being in a relationship is more dangerous for women due to DV. However, I am still blaming myself for this situation.
Also, I'm not ashamed of my sexual desires, there is things I want to explore and I'm not embarrassed to have those fantasies, they might not be for everyone but I don't think women should be ashamed of their sexuality. However, I do know that if something bad happened to me and my messages were published, I'd likely be blamed for being a "slut who wanted x y z".
Anyway.
I cant remember what order everything happened in and I don't want to read through all the messages to check.
We met online, after a while switched to WhatsApp. He was very friendly, chatty, open, very complimentary, very curious. We seemed to get on well. I did think he messaged a lot, he asked a lot of questions. I stated multiple times I wasn't looking for a boyfriend or anything emotional, I'm aware it needs to be a friendly situation for FWB but I wasn't looking for a relationship or to talk to someone everyday, I wasn't emotionally ready for that and didn't want it.
However we talked a lot. I admit I did mildly like the attention and feeling wanted. But it increased and he wanted voice calls and video calls regularly. I have a busy life and didn't always have time, and also didn't always want to, I wasn't looking for that level of communication. I did express this, and he said OK, but would continue the same level. I did feel that his communication meant he wasn't looking for a one off, that we would get to know each other and get on well outside of sex, so I didn't worry too much though I did wonder about love bombing. I'm pretty knowledgeable about emotional abuse and DV due to work, and I kept that info in my head. (Although as I write this I see I really did overlook so many red flags). He asked a lot of questions about work and family etc and I felt wary of this.
He mentioned that since WhatsApp owns Facebook, giving someone your number means they come up on your Facebook, and he said I'd come up on his. I found this a bit intimidating, but he said it in a way that made it sound he was protecting me from less polite men. My Facebook is completely locked down other than my name and profile picture, no one can see anything, and I barely use it anyway. I have removed my phone number from it now.
A while after this, my twitter and Facebook got hacked, just to sell cheap shoes etc, but it worried me. I did wonder if it was him, but thought surely not.
I'm going to try simplify it now as it's already too long and I'm nowhere near done. this may all be in the wrong order.
At some point we met for a coffee, got on, and I knew I'd be happy to meet again for sex. He wanted to spend all day with me and I was clear I didn't want that. a bit of a social, yes, but not boyfriend type stuff. he asked I'd go out for meals etc as the "friend" part, I said unlikely. I felt pushed and pressured all the time.
I was occasionally seeing someone else (once a month ish, v nice, v easygoing, no stress) and this new guy seemed a bit jealous. I explained I am my own person, I'm exploring things, no one owns me.
The things I want to explore do centre on someone being in charge of me, but I was clear I wanted this very slowly, and I am a completely independent woman, I will see who I want. when I said things like this he would act disappointed, short messages etc. I ignored this as I could see it was emotional manipulation, and it doesn't work on me.
He started calling me pet names without my consent, I usually hate that but I ignored it because I thought he was looking for a reaction. He praised me a lot which I fell for. he wanted me to call him a pet name which I felt a bit icky about but I did occasionally do it. he wanted goodnight and Good morning texts which I didn't want to feel tied to. (in my previous relationship where I was wildly in love, I wanted this and didn't get it, so it did feel nice that someone was doing this and wanting me. however I didn't want it from him, it felt claustrophobic and overly intimate too soon).
Yes, I can see the love bombing and red flags v clearly now.
I did send pics, yes, I do regret it, yes, but I do feel I should be able to without fear of retribution, but obviously that isn't the case and I feel stupid now, though he promised he had deleted them.
We met Once more, he came to mine, we had a good time, physically compatible.
But it all just got too much, he was asking too much, forcing a relationship, telling me he could like me, that I was his type of girl, asking if I liked him, if I could like him as more than FWB, I felt really pressured. I repeated my boundaries a lot and he reassured me but then ignored them again. he would text multiple times if I didn't reply.
He was always asking me if he could "help", like with how I was feeling or whatever, it was odd.
he was very "protective", so if I was out he would want me to text him to say I was home? I am an adult woman living alone and don't do that, maybe with my friends but not a random man.
He made it seem like he was very protective and caring and safe etc. I think the truth is he is controlling.
I don't know why I put up with it so long!
We had another meet planned, and I was feeling i wanted to end this.
I had told my friends I'd met him but not all this detail, because I KNEW it was dodgy and they'd tell me. I feel so stupid. I told a friend, she told me he was awful, I agreed and decided to end it.
I knew it would have to be a "proper break up", due to how he is. This was exactly what I didn't want, something intense and serious leading to a break up, I wanted something easy and fun, not the emotional drama. I ended it, being polite, feeling like I had to placate him to keep myself safe. I said I'd enjoyed getting to know him but I didn't want to continue, I wasn't going to meet anyone (white lie because by this point I was nervous about him and wanted to placate him), that my health isn't good (true). he took it pretty well. He asked me not to block him, which I agreed to to placate him. I don't want to antagonise him.
We always spoke on WhatsApp, and he hasn't contacted me there, however, since then I have had 3 text messages from him over a few weeks. I have ignored them all, hoping it would make it clear.
However the last one says he has seen me online on the site where we met. He is wondering if I am ready to consider talking.
I'm not, and it freaks me out that he's watching me.
I know I ought to block him everywhere. I just don't know if I ought to send a final text being much clearer, saying I don't want to hear from you, it freaked me out that you were watching me, please don't contact me again. I'm just scared of antagonising him.
I am also wondering if I should speak to Women's Aid, or the police?
I'm not one for "logging with 101" as mumsnet would say, but I do feel worried.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm sorry this is so long, thank you if you read it.
I am aware this has a lot of identifying detail so am cautious about posting it.
I promise I will be back to read replies and reply.
Thank you

OP posts:
Palavah · 08/01/2022 09:24

Don't make this complicated.
You've already told him you're not compatible so just block him.
Do whatever you need to do on the fwb site to mean he can't see you.
There's nothing I can see that warrants reporting him to anyone for anything, but i must admit i started skim-reading.

You're defending yourself here against criticism that noone has made (about fwb, sending pics etc). Maybe think about who you're trying to justify yourself to. Send pics if you want, just know that once you've sent them they're only as safe as the person you've sent them too.

cansu · 08/01/2022 09:30

Just block him. Apart from being annoying there is nothing there to report him to the police. I also think you need to protect yourself from people like him. Yes you should be able to do xyz but the reality is there are men who will not be respectful if you and your privacy.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 08/01/2022 09:31

Oh dear
I’m not telling you off , but sweetheart you should have run a mile far far sooner
What stopped you ? As there are so many red flags 🚩 here
Seriously I’m worried that if this is the case you might want to really take a step back to avoid this

Onto this fellow , a clear message and break is needed
So you need to block him , delete him and make it 100% clear this is a cold hard break
No sorry , no explanations

I’d screenshot a few concerning messages before just in case

But also keep a diary
I’m just worried as he was a total red flag 🚩 waver from day 1

Please be careful of your boundaries now

CorrBlimeyGG · 08/01/2022 09:37

Just block him. Send one final message if you want to, but then block.

It's good to be aware of red flags etc, but it comes across that you're trying to frame everything in those terms. He wanted more than you, he had a different communication style, that doesn't automatically equate to abuse. He saw you on a site that you'd both used previously, that's not really watching you is it?

FabulousMrFifty · 08/01/2022 09:38

Not sure you why you think you could report him to anyone for anything, you wanted some sex and had some?
Sounds like he wanted more of a relationship than you do, as others say just block him everywhere and don’t send anyone pictures that you would not be okay seeing on the internet as some point

GrandmasCat · 08/01/2022 09:45

I’m sorry but why on Earth are you still interacting with a person that makes you feel uncomfortable?

Just block and move on, by trying to force him into what you think is acceptable behaviour you are exacerbating the problem massively as he is doing exactly the same as you: trying to get the other person to change to meet what they want.

snottygrot · 08/01/2022 09:46

Block him

Don't send any pics you wouldn't be happy to be online

Stop bringing men who you are not sure of to your home address

Protect yourself at all times

GrandmasCat · 08/01/2022 09:48

One thing before you block him, make sure your last message clearly specifies that you don’t want to be contacted again. That message would give the police the power to act if things escalate.

HidingFromDD · 08/01/2022 09:48

I’m guessing you wanted to explore your submissive side, met a Dom, you didn’t like the full package (that type can be sexual only or lifestyle) if that’s the case, then a clear ‘not interested in exploring with you further’ should be enough , it’s not something that needs to be reported. If he doesn’t back off at that point you may want to take it further.

If I have guessed correctly, you may be better sticking to more vanilla sites but finding someone willing to explore fantasies with as would be a gentler introduction

Omniscope · 08/01/2022 09:49

Thank you, I appreciate the replies.
Yes I suppose I was justifying myself.
I don't want to report the sex, that was perfectly consensual.
I don't actually want to report anything, I just wasn't sure if I was being under or over cautious, since his messages show he isn't respecting my boundaries of no contact.
I understand 3 messages isn't harassment. I just feel wary of him, and scared that it might escalate, and I didn't know if I ought to do something at this point in case it does.
I will block him, I just feel scared it will antagonise him, and at least if he isn't blocked I can see what he's saying to me.
I understand I take responsibility for sharing my pictures, and I'm fine with that. I know the consequence are that they might be shared. it's a shame not everyone is trustworthy but we know they're not, and I have to manage my behaviour with that knowledge.
Thanks again.

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ExasperatedTwice · 08/01/2022 09:51

I am afraid I gave up halfway through the wall of text. Who won in the end?

Omniscope · 08/01/2022 09:53

@GrandmasCat

I’m sorry but why on Earth are you still interacting with a person that makes you feel uncomfortable?

Just block and move on, by trying to force him into what you think is acceptable behaviour you are exacerbating the problem massively as he is doing exactly the same as you: trying to get the other person to change to meet what they want.

You're right, I should have stopped it much earlier. My emotions are off due to the break up and I slightly liked having someone be so chatty, but I do think it was love bombing, and it got too intense. I agree we were both trying to make the other person be the right way for us, when in fact we aren't compatible and it should have stopped earlier. I stopped it and said no, now I would just like him to respect that. Thank you
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CornishTiger · 08/01/2022 09:54

I really don’t understand what you think you’d report. He sent you three text messages and you’ve not replied. He’s not been threatening - just implied he knows you’ve been active on the dating site and wondering if you were ready to talk more.

Yes he has red flags with the love bombing etc and pushing boundaries but he’s not been abusive or harassing yet.

Send him a final message. Hi - I’ve decided that I don’t want to be in contact with you anymore.

If he continues then consider a report via online 101

Omniscope · 08/01/2022 09:54

@HidingFromDD

I’m guessing you wanted to explore your submissive side, met a Dom, you didn’t like the full package (that type can be sexual only or lifestyle) if that’s the case, then a clear ‘not interested in exploring with you further’ should be enough , it’s not something that needs to be reported. If he doesn’t back off at that point you may want to take it further.

If I have guessed correctly, you may be better sticking to more vanilla sites but finding someone willing to explore fantasies with as would be a gentler introduction

Thank you, yes. Totally fine if that's the lifestyle some want, but I wasn't ready for that, and not with him. We did meet on a 'vanilla' site, I haven't looked at any less vanilla. Thank you for your kind message.
OP posts:
Omniscope · 08/01/2022 09:57

Thank you all, I'm sorry for the wall of text. The situation is playing on my mind. I really appreciate the responses. I agree there isn't anything to 'report', I am just finding it unsettling and wanted some advice, thank you all for replying to me.

OP posts:
Palavah · 08/01/2022 09:57

Have you blocked him now?
No need to delete the messages - just archive the chat.

Bananarama21 · 08/01/2022 09:57

Tbh these fwb sites can attract some men who aren't the most caring of types I'd be very careful who you meet off these sites and never put yourself in a dangerous situation.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 08/01/2022 10:05

Honestly you are making this sound more dramatic than it is.

You knight be looking at this through the lens of someone who was preciously in a poor relationship, I'm not sure if I missed that you were.

But he has been over eager. You need to now stop being afraid to say no more texts and start blocking.

Bamburghdoodle · 08/01/2022 10:09

@Omniscope

Hello all, I'm a long time lurker but this is my first time making a post. This is incredibly long so apologies in advance. I'm not sure if relationships is the right board but I didn't want to brave AIBU. Short story, I met a man online, I met him in real life twice, the situation became too intense for me so I ended it, but he is keeps texting me and I find it intimidating. Long story. I came out of a nice relationship (mostly nice, a lovely lovely man, but a bit closed off with his emotions and I felt my emotional needs weren't always being met, there was a lack of communication and this made me feel insecure. I am working on my insecurities which stem from a previous relationship) last year and after a while I missed sex. I read on here, on the sex board, about websites where you could meet people for consensual NSA or FWB situations so I tried it. I was looking to find a nice regular FWB, not sleep with 100 different men, though there's nothing wrong with that if people do that. I followed advice, was very picky, and did everything I could to keep myself safe. I've met a couple of really nice people, and see one occasionally, it's working well. I want to caveat this with saying I know it could be dangerous to meet strangers, however it shouldn't be, women should be safe, we should be able to do that without fear. of course unfortunately we can't, so I was careful with vetting, met in public, told my friends and gave my friends their details and numbers. I don't think meeting someone from a sex site is any more dangerous than meeting someone from tinder. In fact being in a relationship is more dangerous for women due to DV. However, I am still blaming myself for this situation. Also, I'm not ashamed of my sexual desires, there is things I want to explore and I'm not embarrassed to have those fantasies, they might not be for everyone but I don't think women should be ashamed of their sexuality. However, I do know that if something bad happened to me and my messages were published, I'd likely be blamed for being a "slut who wanted x y z". Anyway. I cant remember what order everything happened in and I don't want to read through all the messages to check. We met online, after a while switched to WhatsApp. He was very friendly, chatty, open, very complimentary, very curious. We seemed to get on well. I did think he messaged a lot, he asked a lot of questions. I stated multiple times I wasn't looking for a boyfriend or anything emotional, I'm aware it needs to be a friendly situation for FWB but I wasn't looking for a relationship or to talk to someone everyday, I wasn't emotionally ready for that and didn't want it. However we talked a lot. I admit I did mildly like the attention and feeling wanted. But it increased and he wanted voice calls and video calls regularly. I have a busy life and didn't always have time, and also didn't always want to, I wasn't looking for that level of communication. I did express this, and he said OK, but would continue the same level. I did feel that his communication meant he wasn't looking for a one off, that we would get to know each other and get on well outside of sex, so I didn't worry too much though I did wonder about love bombing. I'm pretty knowledgeable about emotional abuse and DV due to work, and I kept that info in my head. (Although as I write this I see I really did overlook so many red flags). He asked a lot of questions about work and family etc and I felt wary of this. He mentioned that since WhatsApp owns Facebook, giving someone your number means they come up on your Facebook, and he said I'd come up on his. I found this a bit intimidating, but he said it in a way that made it sound he was protecting me from less polite men. My Facebook is completely locked down other than my name and profile picture, no one can see anything, and I barely use it anyway. I have removed my phone number from it now. A while after this, my twitter and Facebook got hacked, just to sell cheap shoes etc, but it worried me. I did wonder if it was him, but thought surely not. I'm going to try simplify it now as it's already too long and I'm nowhere near done. this may all be in the wrong order. At some point we met for a coffee, got on, and I knew I'd be happy to meet again for sex. He wanted to spend all day with me and I was clear I didn't want that. a bit of a social, yes, but not boyfriend type stuff. he asked I'd go out for meals etc as the "friend" part, I said unlikely. I felt pushed and pressured all the time. I was occasionally seeing someone else (once a month ish, v nice, v easygoing, no stress) and this new guy seemed a bit jealous. I explained I am my own person, I'm exploring things, no one owns me. The things I want to explore do centre on someone being in charge of me, but I was clear I wanted this very slowly, and I am a completely independent woman, I will see who I want. when I said things like this he would act disappointed, short messages etc. I ignored this as I could see it was emotional manipulation, and it doesn't work on me. He started calling me pet names without my consent, I usually hate that but I ignored it because I thought he was looking for a reaction. He praised me a lot which I fell for. he wanted me to call him a pet name which I felt a bit icky about but I did occasionally do it. he wanted goodnight and Good morning texts which I didn't want to feel tied to. (in my previous relationship where I was wildly in love, I wanted this and didn't get it, so it did feel nice that someone was doing this and wanting me. however I didn't want it from him, it felt claustrophobic and overly intimate too soon). Yes, I can see the love bombing and red flags v clearly now. I did send pics, yes, I do regret it, yes, but I do feel I should be able to without fear of retribution, but obviously that isn't the case and I feel stupid now, though he promised he had deleted them. We met Once more, he came to mine, we had a good time, physically compatible. But it all just got too much, he was asking too much, forcing a relationship, telling me he could like me, that I was his type of girl, asking if I liked him, if I could like him as more than FWB, I felt really pressured. I repeated my boundaries a lot and he reassured me but then ignored them again. he would text multiple times if I didn't reply. He was always asking me if he could "help", like with how I was feeling or whatever, it was odd. he was very "protective", so if I was out he would want me to text him to say I was home? I am an adult woman living alone and don't do that, maybe with my friends but not a random man. He made it seem like he was very protective and caring and safe etc. I think the truth is he is controlling. I don't know why I put up with it so long! We had another meet planned, and I was feeling i wanted to end this. I had told my friends I'd met him but not all this detail, because I KNEW it was dodgy and they'd tell me. I feel so stupid. I told a friend, she told me he was awful, I agreed and decided to end it. I knew it would have to be a "proper break up", due to how he is. This was exactly what I didn't want, something intense and serious leading to a break up, I wanted something easy and fun, not the emotional drama. I ended it, being polite, feeling like I had to placate him to keep myself safe. I said I'd enjoyed getting to know him but I didn't want to continue, I wasn't going to meet anyone (white lie because by this point I was nervous about him and wanted to placate him), that my health isn't good (true). he took it pretty well. He asked me not to block him, which I agreed to to placate him. I don't want to antagonise him. We always spoke on WhatsApp, and he hasn't contacted me there, however, since then I have had 3 text messages from him over a few weeks. I have ignored them all, hoping it would make it clear. However the last one says he has seen me online on the site where we met. He is wondering if I am ready to consider talking. I'm not, and it freaks me out that he's watching me. I know I ought to block him everywhere. I just don't know if I ought to send a final text being much clearer, saying I don't want to hear from you, it freaked me out that you were watching me, please don't contact me again. I'm just scared of antagonising him. I am also wondering if I should speak to Women's Aid, or the police? I'm not one for "logging with 101" as mumsnet would say, but I do feel worried. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm sorry this is so long, thank you if you read it. I am aware this has a lot of identifying detail so am cautious about posting it. I promise I will be back to read replies and reply. Thank you
You come across as very hard work :/

I don’t think the situation is complicated. Block all communications and move on. Enjoy FWB with someone else.

Palavah · 08/01/2022 10:15

@Bamburghdoodle I should report you for quoting that biblical opening post!

Tulipsandviolets · 08/01/2022 10:19

Think you're making this into a huge problem drama. Just block him and ignore it. You don't owe him anything you made it clear you just want casual sex.
Think you're being naive about doing these sites and them being safe and no weirdo's tho.

Lysianthus · 08/01/2022 10:28

[quote Palavah]@Bamburghdoodle I should report you for quoting that biblical opening post![/quote]
You beat me to it!
OP, you’ve learnt your lesson so block him now and as PPs have said, keep a diary and refer back to it when you meet the next one.

Livandme · 08/01/2022 10:29

Just ignore, block if needbe.
You should have took ownership much sooner.

IfIHadAHeart · 08/01/2022 10:35

Gosh you like the sound of you’re own voice don’t you!

Just block him and move on, it is that simple!

Thatsplentyjack · 08/01/2022 10:38

You don't want to report the sex Confused what would you report?
I'm guessing you've ignored the last 3 texts?
You can feel that you should be able tk send naked pictures to someone without the possibility of them sharing them all you like, the reality is you can't, so don't send nudes to anyone.
Yes, he was being too controlling, you should have dropped him as soon as that started but you freely admit you liked the attention so you were obviously communicating with him and he probably took that to mean you were interested.
Ignore his texts and block him. Why do you need to be able tk see what hes saying to you?

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