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Broody MIL freaking me out

79 replies

vegpatch21 · 24/11/2021 13:44

Need a bit of advice everyone...

My MIL is a wonderful person with whom I've always got along fabulously with. Until my 1st DC was born about three months ago.

Starting from when he was about two weeks old she would whisk him off me and take him to other rooms of her house, cuddling him like he was her own baby and refusing to give him back as well as preventing me from comforting him when he was crying by insisting he wasn't hungry and I should only feed him when he's 'screaming.' For a new hormonal mother you can imagine how i felt. I felt so upset because I couldn't see my DC(she'd take him to another part of the house) and felt i couldn't ask for him back so would have to wait HOURS while she let him sleep on her etc. I would have to get DH to go and retrieve him and she would reluctantly give him up. I would leave weekends spent at her house feeling like I'd been on edge for 48 hours.

This happens every time we see her. She has also been incredibly unsupportive of breastfeeding offering sarcastic comments about how frequently I do it and making out that i'm being strange or overly ambitious for attempting to keep going. She also said (when baby was five weeks old) that baby was just trying to manipulate me when they were crying, saying to me 'stop it, DC doesn't need you to pick them up', so I didn't even though every bit of me wanted to pick up my baby.

The comments about the breastfeeding have eased off somewhat although she still won't give the baby back when DC is clearly hungry. . Now, we're in the situation where I frankly feel a bit traumatised and on guard about seeing her. I used to be the one booking in dates to see my PIL but now i just don't want to, even though her behaviour has improved.

She has recently offered to babysit and my feelings are I don't want to even though she would do a great job & wants to see her DGC ( it's not like we don't see them).

I feel our previously lovely relationship has changed and while i'm sad about that, I feel that I've seen this different side to her which I really don't like. She's always been incredibly judgey of my SIL behind her back but lovely to her face and it got me thinking she's probably got all sorts of opinions about how i'm choosing to parent. The more I've reflected on this i've noticed she absolutely loves to judge other women in the extended family. This isn't something I do or take any pleasure in.

I know I need to get over it and ensure that my DC has a good relationship with her but i suppose the thing that freaks me out is that she sees the baby as her second go at mothering. I am not mega territorial about my baby, very happy to let other people hold them but i guess those other people respect me as the baby's mother, don't offer advice I haven't asked for and don't prevent me from taking my kid back if i want to.

I want to get over this but i think my hormones and primal instincts have been spiked in a way that I can't talk myself out of. They seem to view her as a threat even though I know she just loves her DGC and wants to show it.

How to proceed? I know she's a bit miffed I've stopped speaking to her like I used and that we're not visiting as much as usual. But I just don't want to do more than the bare minimum. It feels like i have to step over my own boundaries to make her happy. i suffered quite a bit of abuse as a child and i suppose this is triggering on some level.

Will it pass when the baby is older? i know she means well. i really do. but i don't want to 'reward' such insensitive behaviour ie how she was in the beginning. Am conflicted !!

OP posts:
Almostmenopausal · 24/11/2021 13:48

Bloody hell!!! She's abusive. No contact - AT ALL

PipeOfPringles · 24/11/2021 13:49

Why on earth are you seeing her when she's taking your baby away and disregarding your requests about how to treat them?!

MrsTimRiggins · 24/11/2021 13:52

@PipeOfPringles

Why on earth are you seeing her when she's taking your baby away and disregarding your requests about how to treat them?!
Basically this. If you insist on still seeing her, you need to woman up and use your words!! I wouldn’t be accepting of a situation where anyone thought they had the right not to hand my baby back to me.
Eastridingclub · 24/11/2021 13:55

Given you used to have a good relationship I would do something I wouldn't normally do and attempt to clear the air. I don't think she'll take it well but if you clearly and firmly say your piece and explain you're doing so in order to be able to move past it now, it will hopefully help you put it behind you

She sounds awful but mothers in law are often at their worst at this time.

MintJulia · 24/11/2021 13:56

Stop all contact immediately. She's wrong on all counts. Her behaviour is not normal or healthy, and definitely not good for you or your little one.

Either you or your DH need to explain to her that her behaviour is cruel and causing great anxiety, and she either needs to get a grip of it herself or go and see a counsellor.

What on earth is wrong with these women? Angry

Cocolapew · 24/11/2021 13:56

She doesn't mean well and its not your job to facilitate a good relationship with your DC and her.

Svalberg · 24/11/2021 13:57

It's up to your DH to establish the relationship between her and your DC - not you.

CambsAlways · 24/11/2021 14:02

Oh my godddd, is this for real! I don’t care how wonderful she is, I felt my blood boiling just reading this, she’s clearly going into second motherhood! I’ve got to ask you op why are you allowing this to continue! She sounds horrendous to me judging other women in the family! And being disrespectful regarding her SIL and then lovely to her face, I don’t really understand why you think you should get over it! This is your baby, she’s had hers, sorry you suffered from abuse in the past love! No sadly I don’t think it will pass and she won’t change, she seems to have an opinion on everything, what about your husband partner in all this, can you ask him to have a word or both of you together explain to her that although you know she loves your child, she is going above the realms and just taking over, and it’s going to stop

DappledThings · 24/11/2021 14:03

she still won't give the baby back when DC is clearly hungry...I know I need to get over it and ensure that my DC has a good relationship with her
You really don't need to. She is treating you and the baby terribly. She really isn't a "lovely person" to be acting this way and you don't need to a thing to facilitate it.

Disfordarkchocolate · 24/11/2021 14:07

Why do you think someone who is happy to let your baby be hungry is someone you want your baby to have a good relationship with? Or, will look after them well.

Tell her why and then see her as little as possible.

Skeumorph · 24/11/2021 14:09

Wow, no.

You need to pass this one to your DH and he needs to back you up.

She respects YOUR rules and YOUR parenting for YOUR baby or she does not have any contact with him.

You know this is REALLY detrimental not only to you, but to your baby's development? She is an awful, selfish figure to have as a grandmother. EVERYONE knows that tiny babies really just need to be with their mums, their primary carer, feeding and growing and becoming secure. Horrible thought, having a poor baby made to scream and be withheld from their mother - how the fuck can a loving grandmother stand that? Don't be surprised if when older, your son doesn't like her, by the way - he will quite possibly associate her smell with the stress and fear she made him suffer when tiny.

She right now doesn't have your child's best interests at heart. Hold on to that thought. She'd happily see him cry and be unhappy so that she can play mum. Horrible.

Stop planning any visits.

Tell your DH exactly how she's making you feel and how she's undermining your parenting and putting your relationship with her in jeopardy.

Well done on managing to continue breastfeeding by the way - this is exactly the kind of stress which usually ensures it fails - to have the baby constantly kept from you and carted off by 'loving' relatives.

Angry
Skeumorph · 24/11/2021 14:12

Oh and by the way, you have been VERY VERY restrained. That's probably not such a good thing in a way and definitely ,definitely you need to be assured that you would be exactly in the right to lose your shit with her over this. It's appalling treatment - utterly unreasonable and inappropriate.

ArrrMeHearties · 24/11/2021 14:13

She's abusive, who keeps a newborn from their mother and says they aren't hungry so they can have more "cuddles"? I'd go no contact with her as it's only going to get worse as dc get older... Think you love dgm more than mummy don't you dcname and so on

FreeBritnee · 24/11/2021 14:13

These threads annoy me so much I rarely reply. She is massively overstepping and no I wouldn’t put up with it. She needs to back the fuck off.

vegpatch21 · 24/11/2021 14:14

thanks all. i will say something!

in her defence, she has got better recently. i think she's clocked on it's upset me. i think she was just overly excited and it's come across as mental.

why is that MIL change after GC? Can someone explain?

OP posts:
BurbageBrook · 24/11/2021 14:14

You are not being unreasonable but you are being unreasonable not to woman up and stand up to her!

Shedmistress · 24/11/2021 14:15

Can you get a sling for when you visit so that you can keep control of your baby?

Or just don't visit if she can't reign it in.

User0ne · 24/11/2021 14:16

I don't think mil do change (or at least not all of them). I don't know how you've managed to not lose your shit.

I'm currently ebf for the 3rd time and my boobs hurt when someone else's child is crying never mind my own, plus they're easier to settle when not distraught!

Notyouraveragecupofcoffee · 24/11/2021 14:19

She's absolutely off limits!
You poor thing, what a horrid situation to find yourself in.

What does your husband do when she hides away with your child?

Babies and especially so young ones need to feed on demand. You're doing this amazingly, reacting to your child's needs.

Absolutely put your foot down. No disappearing with baby, handing baby back when they're crying or you leave.

You can do this! And get your husband to stand up for you!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/11/2021 14:29

Your DH is indeed key here; where has he been whilst all this was going on?. What does he think of his mother's behaviour to date re his child?.

Not all relatives are nice and some of them can be actively abusive.
Where are your own boundaries at here with regards to MIL?. I ask as they have been far too low to date and you have been far too accommodating re her. This cannot at all continue and I would not see her at all going forward. If she cannot behave decently towards you and respect your own self as a parent then she should not be seeing you and the DC.

VeganCow · 24/11/2021 14:35

No point stressing over what already happened.
But what you CAN do is change your response from now on moving forward.

Next time she takes him off you just go and get him back. Hold your hands out and say I'll take him now. If she refuses, just take him.
Don't worry about what she will say or think as she clearly doesn't care what you think.
If it causes a row, so what?

NynaeveSedai · 24/11/2021 14:39

Her behaviour has been AWFUL!!! Have you or DH spoken to her about it?

Double3xposure · 24/11/2021 14:56

@Cocolapew

She doesn't mean well and its not your job to facilitate a good relationship with your DC and her.
This.

No wonder you are stressed and anxious - she IS a threat to your baby, she is abusing your LO for her own gratification.

I don’t suffer from anxiety but I actually feel anxious just reading your post. I have the physical reaction in my body from thinking of my baby screaming for food and someone taking him from me. And my youngest child is 15.

EarthSight · 24/11/2021 15:16

refusing to give him back

This is taking the piss OP, and she knows it. If she can't be relied upon to give him back to his own mother when asked, she needs to learn that her contact will be curtailed.

Hopefully this is pass, but don't be surprised that once you let your guard down, she will go back to the way she was before. Some people do not respect other people's boundaries. They just don't care. Sometimes, someone might seem lovely and polite on the outside, but it's only when their needs are in conflict with yours that you truly find out what they're really like. This can be years into a relationship in some cases. They will not inhibit their behaviour for your sake - they will only do it if there's personal cost involved. So far, she's learning what that personal cost, so make sure if this starts happening again, that she's reminded that if she starts taking the piss and being disrespectful, there's cost to it.

It's sad that this is necessary, but if she is that type of person, it's the only thing that will be effective.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 24/11/2021 15:23

Your baby is three months old. They need to be fed and feel secure with their primary caregiver/s.
The relationship with their grand parents will come when they’re older and less reliant on you.

I’d be putting my foot down with her suggestion last, comments and behaviour or, if I didn’t feel confident in doing that, stop seeing her.