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Is it ok to text someone who's asked for space?

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Serendipity79 · 18/11/2021 18:26

I asked a close relative to give me some space recently. There is a long history of me being their whipping boy, and them repeatedly doing things that I feel undermine me as a parent. Examples include mocking me to my kids because of my views on sticking to the rules during Covid, buying toys for them that I specifically said they couldn't have e.g. toy knives (I don't think 5 year olds need to play pretend stabbing games), and telling my 7 year old son that washing up is women's work and he needs to put me in my place when I ask him to help with smalls bits of housework. My visits with them also emotionally drained me, they were just hours full of them criticising the world in general, me, my siblings, their neighbours, their work colleagues - it exhausted me just being in a conversation with them.
I've never felt good enough, irrespective of anything I do and even though I helped them out a lot both emotionally and financially. None of my achievements get celebrated and I felt very let down growing up that I was so invisible to them until they needed something.

Its gone on for years and I finally flipped as I'd had enough. I was diagnosed with depression, I knew this relationship was a factor and I said I would like to have some space and distance to think about how we could move forward in a way that would work for everyone. I've had a text now to say that enough is enough, they want to know where they stand, its been very difficult for them managing on their own without my help, and that they've had enough of this nonsense about me needing space and want me to text them back because I've had enough time. If I'm honest I've only just started to unpick how I feel, its only been a couple of weeks. Other relatives and friends of theirs are now bombarding me with messages of how unfair I am being because they're so upset at being cut off.

I guess I am looking for views on whether that's reasonable for them to put a time limit on me "making up my mind". Stepping back was a hard thing for me to do, I am the quiet one who always says nothing when they upset me but I recognised it was having a serious effect on my mental health and I didn't want my kids to see me being treated like a joke either.

Does anyone have experience of a similar situation or some wise words? I've not responded as yet because I want to think about whether its even right to reply right now. I have been told that there's no apology on the cards - they think I am over reacting and being dramatic so I am not sure anything would change, and it could even get worse.

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mum4fergus · 18/11/2021 18:29

Personally, I would block them. You are an adult and can choose how and when you communicate with people.

HollowTalk · 18/11/2021 18:29

I wouldn't respond to any of them. They've treated you really badly for years and now they want to continue with that.

How do you feel now you have no contact?

Whingasaurus · 18/11/2021 18:31

Grey rock

Serendipity79 · 18/11/2021 18:32

@HollowTalk I'm not totally back to myself, I think that will take a while, but I am doing ok and I feel a calmness that I didn't have before if that makes sense? I do feel bad for my kids as I don't want to strip them of family relationships but I strongly believe no example is better than a bad example?

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MooncakeandAvocato · 18/11/2021 18:43

Block them. Your kids will be fine.

It’s really telling that you feel there’s room for doubt here, or that you may be in the wrong. This is all quite appalling behaviour and most people would have turned on them immediately. It feels like you’ve been conditioned to accept it? So, well done for asserting your boundaries. Now, take it a step further, and cut this louse off entirely.

Wildrobin · 18/11/2021 18:50

I would gently say that no one is considering you in getting back in touch and you will be in touch when ready and when had enough space, their contacting you is making it worse .

Bonheurdupasse · 18/11/2021 19:01

Block them , and their flying monkeys.
If you’re not in therapy for this, please try to start that.

You deserve to be treated better.

billy1966 · 18/11/2021 19:09

Agree with above.

You have been emotionally abused by this person for years.

Further disrespect unsurprisingly because you have had enough.

This person is undoubtedly a huge part of your depression.

It is intolerable that they belittle you in front of your children.

Intolerable and 100% unacceptable.

I think you finally recognised the damage that was being done to you and your family cannot continue.

Block this person.
Block anyone who attempts to stick their nose in your business AKA flying monkeys.

You do NOT have to respond to anyone who attempts to speak to you about your relationship with anyone.

You don't owe ANYONE an explanation as to the choices you have decided to make.

It is quite freeing to fully embrace that realisation.

Most people celebrate the peace and quiet having finally stepped away from their source of emotional abuse.

You asked for space, as is YOUR right.

Do not respond and block if you feel able.

Keep posting.Flowers

GroovesintheHeart · 18/11/2021 19:15

I’ve been in a similar position with a relative & I didn’t reply. I never did. It’s been a decade and I’m still working on myself.

It’s not up to them to decide when enough is enough. Prioritise yourself. This person sounds selfish & toxic.

You do you x

supremelybaffled · 18/11/2021 19:29

The very fact that they say they've had enough of this 'nonsense' about you needing space is a very good reason to continue having that space, because they clearly have no respect for you whatsoever.

Funny how it's difficult for them to manage on their own without your help, and now their friends and your other relatives are having a go at you because of it. If they care so much, let them put their money where their mouths are, and do the helping.

Stay strong, block the whole lot of them and take as much time as you need (permanently if necessary).

Serendipity79 · 18/11/2021 19:40

Thank you all so much for being so kind. I am going for some counselling. I had some when I left an abusive marriage three years ago and it really helped so I've booked to go again although i have to wait a few weeks.

I think I was trying to work out if I have to give them "a decision" or if a certain period of time was reasonable - I'm relieved to see people don't think I'm doing anything wrong - I just want to reflect on it all without being in the thick of it. I'm not sure that I want to continue a relationship at all but then is the decent thing to tell them that so they aren't hanging round waiting for me to decide, or on the other hand does this give them another chance to get annoyed with me

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billy1966 · 18/11/2021 19:50

You TAKE as much space as you want.
End of.

That could be 6 weeks, months or years.

Excellent post from @supremelybaffled pointing out the self interest of others who want you to go back to your role of helper/emotional punching bag.

"You don't owe ANY adult a relationship with you".

That was a light bulb moment for me many years ago.

If you don't want to be in contact with another person, that is 100% your decision.

You don't owe them an explanation either.

You know this person has taken your peace for years.
You owe them NOTHING.

Let THEM take THEIR NONSENSE elsewhere.

Block them.
Block those that want to interfere.

Practice on a loop "I am NOT discussing my business/affairs/relationships with you".

And stick to it.

You have clearly been driven to this.

Do not relent.
Go back to counselling and take all the time you need.

Your children do NOT need this person in their life EVER.

Keep posting.
Flowers

SockFluffInTheBath · 18/11/2021 19:56

Block all of them, I love the flying monkeys tag, it’s so true. Take your time, get yourself to where you want to be then decide if you need this lot back in your life. The fact they’re only in touch to tell you what they want from you and not to offer support speaks volumes.

BringOnTheOtherWorlders · 18/11/2021 20:36

This person is still messing with you.
Block this person and every single flying monkey.

BasiliskStare · 18/11/2021 20:42

Honestly If you have asked them to leave you alone just say - Thank you , will get back in touch when I am ready .

charmingthebirds · 18/11/2021 21:57

Within the last week or so, someone here advised another poster to 'know your own worth'. You're a complete stranger to me and the other people who are reading this thread, but I'd like to bet we would all say the same:

'Serendipity - you are worth better than this'.

supremelybaffled · 18/11/2021 22:38

You don't have to give them any answer if you don't want to, decision or no decision. It is entirely up to you whether you talk to them or not. They DO NOT get to tell you to hurry up and make a decision. You are an adult and nobody has the right to tell you what to do.

You've been told there's no apology on the cards. Well that's their decision. You are not over-reacting or being dramatic at all, you are just putting in some boundaries and asserting yourself.

Why would they be hanging around waiting for you to decide? Decide what? How does it affect them? If it means they aren't getting your help and support - tough. They shouldn't have treated you like dirt, should they?

Does it give them another chance to get annoyed with you? I'm sure it will. But they've never found it all that difficult to find fault with you, have they? So who cares - you aren't in contact with them anyway, so they won't have an opportunity to vent their annoyance.

Stay strong, do what is right for YOU and your own mental wellbeing and happiness. I'm guessing that they've treated you horribly for years - now's the time they need to learn that you won't tolerate it any longer.

Let them find another scapegoat.

Luredbyapomegranate · 18/11/2021 22:50

This person sounds horrendous.

Why would you want them in your life? I’d either just block them, or tell them that you aren’t able to be in contact.

They are an awful influence on your kids too.

2catsandhappy · 19/11/2021 04:32

Block. All of them.
Take all the time you need.
Re-visit your decision in the new year.

MyOtherProfile · 19/11/2021 04:39

Do the other people contacting you know how awful this person has been to you?

Don't reply to them.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 19/11/2021 04:59

This in spades.

I've had a text now to say that enough is enough, they want to know where they stand, its been very difficult for them managing on their own without my help, and that they've had enough of this nonsense about me needing space and want me to text them back because I've had enough time.

On this point it sounds like you do a lot of "help" and "errands". I strongly suggest you devote your time and energies on yourself and your children instead being a servant/gopher for this toxic person.

Block them and block any extended family members who try and guilt you or pull you back in.

ErrmWTAF · 19/11/2021 05:47

I first read it here on Mumsnet, not sure who the original author is:

"Before you accept a diagnosis of depression, first ensure you aren't surrounded by assholes"

Well done for getting out of that circle of assholes - now finish the job. Stat out. Get your counselling. Unpick your own thoughts, and get back to raising well-adjusted kids who won't grow up to be disgusting misogynists.

You've got this. Stay strong.

Newestname002 · 19/11/2021 07:00

@Serendipity79

I've had a text now to say that enough is enough, they want to know where they stand, its been very difficult for them managing on their own without my help, and that they've had enough of this nonsense about me needing space and want me to text them back because I've had enough time.

All this means is that they have, at least temporarily, lost a resource who made their lives easier and/or provided an outlet for their vile behaviour. Who else can they behave like this with? Maybe these "helpful" people who are so keen to see you back in your allotted place so that the narcissist's spotlight doesn't fall on them?

I agree with the majority saying take all the time you need and to grey rock (or, better, block) these negative people from your life for as long as you need. If that takes years then so be it. Your loyalty and energy are best directed at your own mental health and the protection of those you love.

You take care, OP. 🌹

Nikki078 · 19/11/2021 07:25

'Other relatives and friends of theirs are now bombarding me with messages of how unfair I am being because they're so upset at being cut off.'

You're not responsible for anyone's feelings but your own. You're allowed to take all the time you need to heal, and don't need to explain yourself.

Ignore and block. There are some good suggestions here. Take care.

Catsforeverpeoplenever · 19/11/2021 07:38

narcissists hate losing control and this is obviously an attempt to "get you back in line" don't fall for it. They'll probably up the anti then prepare for an extinction burst. You are the strong one don't let them or their FM get to you. Xx