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DH hid meeting female friend

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FlyingHotChocolatr · 11/11/2021 17:52

NC for this.

DH and I have been together for 5 years, and have a baby. He has a friend, C, who used to be a colleague for several years, until she left. This was before we met.

They were very close when working together, to the point where I would say it was an emotional affair. She was with someone, then engaged and married to him, DH was single the whole time. They did kiss a couple of times but that’s as far as it went, but I suspect if she ended her relationship to be with DH, he would have gone for it. However, this was all 5 plus years ago. They are still friends today, speaking on the phone every few months, and meeting for lunch or drinks every now and then. Hand on heart, I can honestly say their friendship has never concerned me. So whenever he mentioned he was meeting her, I would always “say hi to C for me” and if he spoke to her on the phone, I’d always ask how she is. I’ve met her a couple of times, when they’re out for drinks after work and DH invites me along.

Last week, when DH was in the office, a message popped up on his iPad from her that said “so good to see you, didn’t realise how much I’ve missed you x”. It was just chance that at that moment, his iPad was on the dining table when I was grabbing something from the table and she messaged at that moment. Found it odd but figured DH would mention he met her when he came home. No mention at all. In fact, that particular day he was in a mad rush to get into the office at lunch time, as he was wfh in the morning, and I just assumed he has a meeting.

On the weekend she sent some toys for DS. I still haven’t mentioned her to DH, but this morning I said I’m surprised C posted them rather than want to meet him, as when she had each of her three children, DH went to visit each time. He said “she would have given them in person but we haven’t met yet” and then he quickly and quietly added “over the summer”.

So that to me confirmed he deliberately hid the fact that he met her, rather than an oversight that he forgot to mention. And by adding in “over the summer”, strictly speaking, he didn’t actually lie.

On one hand, I think I’m being sensitive as DH would never do something like that, but on the other hand, I would also think he would never lie to me, so I feel like there’s a reason he hid it. I don’t want to ask DH about it just yet as I want to keep observing the situation.

What would you think about the situation?

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CaveWoman1 · 15/11/2021 13:39

I'd be suspicious as hell. Sorry but this woman is WAAAY too involved in his life, and he in hers. Time to get talking. I hate to say it but I would question whether they're just friends. My radar would be well and truly up.

StarCourt · 15/11/2021 13:51

Op could he have a second phone that he flies take to the gym with him?

girlmom21 · 15/11/2021 14:03

@StarCourt

Op could he have a second phone that he flies take to the gym with him?
Would she have texted his normal phone originally if he did?
StarCourt · 15/11/2021 14:34

@girlmom21 yes very possibly if she/they just wanted to keep things looking normal for OP.

girlmom21 · 15/11/2021 14:37

@StarCourt but she would never have needed to send that first message. That's what's aroused the suspicion - because they met and he didn't mention it initially.

StarCourt · 15/11/2021 14:45

@girlmom21 I'm not Miss Marple it was just a thought!
Plus we don't actually know who needed to do what if anything.

Maskless · 15/11/2021 15:22

Why don't you just ask him straight?

You had the opportunity when the presents came...

Aww look, she sent presents, isn't that nice? Have you seen her lately?

Nedclarity · 15/11/2021 15:31

That’s really not on. I’d be wondering what else he’s not telling me. Sounds like he’s treading on thin ice.

imnotacelebritygetmeoutofhere · 15/11/2021 15:45

Based on his follow up message I don't think it sounds like anything is going on, so it's odd that he wouldn't mention meeting her. Honestly OP, why not just ask him about it? The doubt is going to eat away at you and drive you mad. Why not just bring it out into the open, ask him, "when C sent those toys last week you said you hadn't seen her, but a message popped up on the ipad just before, I wish I'd mentioned at the time that I'd seen it but I was distracted and forgot, then since you said you haven't met recently I've been confused, what's going on?"

Bookworm20 · 15/11/2021 16:08

@Maskless

Why don't you just ask him straight?

You had the opportunity when the presents came...

Aww look, she sent presents, isn't that nice? Have you seen her lately?

@Maskless

Thats exactly what happened.
OP said to her DH she wondered why she didn't meet up to give presents. Her DH said he hadn't seen her.

OP already knew he'd met her for lunch a couple days before

girlmom21 · 15/11/2021 16:19

@Bookworm20 that's when she should have gone "oh that's strange because this message popped up on your iPad."

And he'd have said "rah rah rah you shouldn't be reading my personal messages" rather than admitting he lied, probably, but she wouldn't have spent days stressing.

Lordamighty · 15/11/2021 16:35

Why don’t you tell him you saw the message, it was an accident, you weren’t snooping at the time. You have given him opportunities to admit he saw her & he has kept quiet about it. Time for him to be truthful about why he lied.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 15/11/2021 17:35

I do think you have to ask him why he lied otherwise you will drive yourself mad. It's too easy to get carried away and come up with your own narrative, as some on here have done. Your marriage is not dead in the water, you just need to communicate and get to the bottom of what's happened.

me4real · 15/11/2021 18:03

@FlyingHotChocolatr He still lied to you about meeting her/did it in secret.

To me it suggests that he wasn't sure what he wanted before he went, and maybe still is vacillating about it, hence one minute he's doing something to suggest he's upto something shady, the next minute not so much.

Staryflight445 · 15/11/2021 18:31

I’d give him one final opportunity to come clean op, if he lies again it’s time to explain what you saw.

timeisnotaline · 15/11/2021 22:04

His message is a brush off which is reassuring and really there’s no evidence of a second phone. The op needs to talk about the lying and how thats made it much worse. And if she has come onto the ops dh at lunch, and previously cheated on her partner with him, and he’s now lying about meeting her, I think it’s totally reasonable to say you’re uncomfortable with them hanging out. How would he feel with the reverse situation?

MsDogLady · 16/11/2021 08:47

After 5 years, he has changed his behavior. He made planning their meet-up and going there a secret. He is still keeping up the subterfuge.

His response to C’s message suggests distance. This could be staged, as many cheaters are careful to never put anything incriminating in writing. Or he may be resetting a line after something inappropriate occurred. Whatever has/is happening between them, he is willing to break a sacred boundary with you and diminish your relationship.

The lie is corrosive, and you must address it.

Thewookiemustgo · 16/11/2021 09:36

From what you say, there was no need whatsoever to lie about meeting this woman for lunch.
Her follow up message was laced with nostalgia for times gone by and a hint that she still cares about him. You don’t say stuff like that to married work colleagues who are ‘just friends’.
He lied by omission, clearly this time there was a reason to hide going for lunch with her, he lied again and is continuing to hide this from you. There is a reason for that. He needs to tell you what it is.
I wouldn’t try to read anything into subsequent messages, your mention of her might have been a red flag for him so they made sure there were ‘innocent’ messages for you to see, or it might be completely genuine, she was flirty and he was horrified at himself, gave her the brush off and is thanking God he didn’t do anything and that you didn’t know. However, one scenario is far more pleasing to you and more tempting to believe, but you have no evidence to say that either scenario is true. Be careful only to believe what you definitely know for a fact, not believing something because you really want to, and don’t drive yourself crazy with trying to work out which is which. You can never know. Facts only.
Time to stop being ‘cool wife’ about this particular friendship. Some innocent work relationships stray into inappropriate territory and need to get nipped in the bud. Relationships with past affair partners at work shouldn’t happen at all, OP. One on one is not acceptable in that situation. Ever.
You need to have a conversation as soon as possible about this and put a stop to it. It’s not being controlling, you were ok with it all when it was open (if it ever really was) but lying about it has crossed a line and now it is not ok. Not any of it.
I can guarantee you if it continues only worse things can come of it and it will always bother you now.
What you allow continues and what continues will escalate.
Set boundaries as far as this relationship is concerned and stick to them. If he won’t, you have your answer.

Drinkingallthewine · 16/11/2021 14:51

This reminds me of an old ex from when I was 17. He got in touch with me after a couple of decades and the vibe from the message clearly was that he was reconnecting with old school friends - I know because I got my friends to scour his email for any hint of untowardness and they also agreed it sounded platonically friendly as I had heard through the grapevine he had gotten married a few years before. So off I go thinking I was meeting a friend. Then I get the whole 'wife doesn't understand me, separate bedrooms' bullshit quickly followed by his admission he still fancied me. I halted it there and then but I pretty much told him the same thing as your DH said in his message - making it clear (I thought) that only friendship with the full knowledge of partners is on the table. Over the years I got the odd FB message clearly putting out feelers for more than friendship but I ignored them. It's not even worth telling DP about them because I would never reply anyway.

So while I'm usually in the LTB camp, because it mirrors a totally innocent experience of mine, I'd tell you that it could be like that too - but the lying in this situation is very problematic and not something I could overlook or not address.

Thewookiemustgo · 16/11/2021 18:06

@Drinkingallthewine, same thing happened to me when Friends Reunited started. Old uni boyfriend got back in touch. He started off with “how are you after all this time?” then got flirty and told me how boring marriage was via email and how exciting it would be if..... so I stopped it there. Idiot man child, poor wife. 🙄Sounds scarily like the same guy. 😂

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