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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

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nomorefrogs · 06/11/2021 21:51

Op if you are not going to take action tonight then you need to line your ducks up so that you have a safety plan for the next time. His behaviour will inevitable cycle through the abuse circle and after a period of calm it will escalate again. The fact that he put his hands around your throat is a real indicator that he is very dangerous to women and you are at very high risk from him. If you won't get out for yourself can you not do it for your baby. Domestic abuse affects babies even in utero and she deserves better.

uhohspaghettiohh · 06/11/2021 22:04

@angryandscared1

I was given a pill called levonorgestrel for those asking
www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/ehc/

You are safe to feed. You don't have to wait 8 hours.

jitterbugruby · 06/11/2021 22:29

I'm so sorry for what you've gone through, I can feel the sadness in your words. I can imagine how isolated you must feel. I haven't read through all of the posts but I haven't read anything to suggest that this man has shown any signs at all of any love or care for you. It doesn't sound like he is sorry at all for what he has done, for the fact that you are upset and crying, for the fact that he has hurt you. This isn't love. You deserve so much more than this. The mother of your child deserves so much more than this. Please remember that. Going forward, whatever you decide to do, you need to remember that both you and your child need love and kindness, these are fundamental requirements in life in order to be happy. You probably feel like you are in a black hole at the moment but there is help out there for you, if you need it. Hopefully you find it helpful just posting here and getting some support from others.

timeisnotaline · 06/11/2021 22:42

I think a custodial sentence sounds perfectly appropriate tbh, he’s absolutely disgusting. Happy to hurt you, his partner, to get his rocks off and now threatening you re sex.
You can absolutely feed your baby op, the only time I’ve taken map is post baby when I’ve not had the implant back yet and been worried there was condom slippage.
It is absolutely rape. Please speak to the police. You can’t let him back, I know it is a really tough decision but this man is not a ‘partner’. He’s just told you he never ever wants sex that doesn’t hurt you. He’s not sorry, he’s trying to punish you now for not wanting to be hurt.

Justilou1 · 06/11/2021 22:43

I wish I could swoop in and collect you and baby

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 07/11/2021 00:36

I know you have so much to think about right now, but you should ask the pharmacist, when you go to pick up your meds, or Womens Aid or similar where you could go for a suitable/sympathetic medical check up in case you need treatment or tests. You may be glad its on medical record for the future in case you ever need to ask for supervised contact for your DC. Hopefully that would not be necessary, but given that he has really scared you, its best to be on the safe side. Its a tough time for you, but it sounds like you have family and friends (even if at a distance) who will give you some emotional/practical support, please ask them. Flowers

PickupaPenguin8 · 07/11/2021 07:56

@Justilou1

I wish I could swoop in and collect you and baby
Me too
Freddy12 · 07/11/2021 08:23

Wow What a total cunt he is
You just don’t treat someone you love like this
Sounds like he is generally horrible to you definitely time to split I think
You sound lovely, life will be so much better down the line

Justcashnosweets · 07/11/2021 08:25

How are you this morning OP? I rtft last night and I was shocked at your husbands treatment of you. To repeat what others have said, he absolutely had raped you, and worse, he is trying to blame you and gaslight you. This is not only sexual abuse, but mental and emotional abuse to. You and your baby deserve so much better than this pig of a man. The fact he is in the police, and meant to uphold the law makes all this worse. I hope you have some clarity on your situation today and start to put the wheels in motion to leave him. You can do this. FlowersFlowersFlowers

delilabell · 07/11/2021 08:35

Hi op, I've been thinking of you all night. I just wanted to add that the condom or not is awful but you are doubting it was rape. You'd asked him to wear one he didn't, you'd also asked him to be gentle and he wasn't. He had his hand round your throat. All of this was against your consent so is rape.
Please contact your family or friend. If people on the Internet want to help you then so would the people who know you and love you.
You are a strong and amazing woman. You need to be treated with the love and respect you deserve x

IslaPineappple · 07/11/2021 08:36

How are you this morning?

Vallmo47 · 07/11/2021 08:38

I’m so so sorry OP. He’s entirely wrong in every way. I hope you find the strength to move on without him. I honestly feel like this relationship has been doomed. Thinking of you and hope today is a better day x

MadeForThis · 07/11/2021 09:15

He's totally wrong. He knows the law so he also know this. He is attacking and placing the blame on you so you don't report him.

He is abusive. Please don't stay with him just so he can help with the baby. He will get worse.

MissNothing1991 · 07/11/2021 09:23

How are you holding up OP? Have you managed to get somewhere safe. Having been in reasonably similar circumstances myself in the past, you've been in my thoughts all night.

PickupaPenguin8 · 07/11/2021 09:32

@Justcashnosweets

How are you this morning OP? I rtft last night and I was shocked at your husbands treatment of you. To repeat what others have said, he absolutely had raped you, and worse, he is trying to blame you and gaslight you. This is not only sexual abuse, but mental and emotional abuse to. You and your baby deserve so much better than this pig of a man. The fact he is in the police, and meant to uphold the law makes all this worse. I hope you have some clarity on your situation today and start to put the wheels in motion to leave him. You can do this. FlowersFlowersFlowers
He’s in the POLICE? Oh my God. His attitude to sex seems warped by watching porn by the sounds of it. I think OP needs time to process this and make plans. She must feel under a lot of stress and pressure. Thank God her husband is not staying in the house at the moment.
Throughabushbackwards · 07/11/2021 10:02

People who are shocked that a policeman would behave like this - have you been living under a rock throughout all of the Sarah Everard reporting? There is a definite culture of misogynistic behaviour in the police that is now being brought out into the open.

I hope you're ok this morning OP and that you have a plan to escape this horrible manThanks

takethattime · 07/11/2021 10:49

Thinking of you this morning OP.

Silenceisgolden20 · 07/11/2021 10:53

I think the OP needs to leave this thread and get support in real life.

LiJo2015 · 07/11/2021 11:07

I didn't want to read and run.

@angryandscared1 I'm so sorry this happened to you. You were raped and you should absolutely end the relationship and go to the police. However this is much easier said than done. Please contact nearby charities that specialise in this area and speak to them.

In the meantime can you ask him to leave, or leave with your baby and stay somewhere safe? Can you confide in someone who can be with you as you process this?

Whatever you decide this will be a process that will take time. My thoughts are with you and I hope you get the care and help that you need.

QueenSue · 07/11/2021 11:18

Thinking about you angryandscared1, I hope you're getting real life support.

angryandscared1 · 07/11/2021 11:25

I am feeling very lost and alone this morning. He is back to help with baby and get more of his stuff then he will be leaving again. He said he was lying awake "worrying" last night and "he wishes he could go back and turn back the clock". I think the gist of it is he is worried I'm going to report him. He hasn't had a sleepless night feeling like shit for hurting me, he's worrying about the consequences for himself. Says it all really. I've had all the "I love you" stuff as well... Hmm

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ChargingBuck · 07/11/2021 11:27

@Throughabushbackwards

People who are shocked that a policeman would behave like this - have you been living under a rock throughout all of the Sarah Everard reporting? There is a definite culture of misogynistic behaviour in the police that is now being brought out into the open.

I hope you're ok this morning OP and that you have a plan to escape this horrible manThanks

Thank you for this important broadcast, Head Girl.

I don't imagine a single one of us is shocked because of unawareness. We're shocked because it adds a level of complication to an already stressful & scary situation for OP. You can stand down now.

BackBackBack · 07/11/2021 11:34

@angryandscared1

I am feeling very lost and alone this morning. He is back to help with baby and get more of his stuff then he will be leaving again. He said he was lying awake "worrying" last night and "he wishes he could go back and turn back the clock". I think the gist of it is he is worried I'm going to report him. He hasn't had a sleepless night feeling like shit for hurting me, he's worrying about the consequences for himself. Says it all really. I've had all the "I love you" stuff as well... Hmm
You sound as if you are being clear-headed about this, which is great. You are absolutely right to recognise his lack of concern about you - and the fact that he's actually only worried about his job. Very telling he wants to be able to turn the clock back, because this absolutely confirms that he KNOWS what he did was wrong.

What are your plans for today?

ChristmasGrogu · 07/11/2021 11:35

Huge well done for seeing through his facade OP, but sorry this has happened to you again. He doesn’t care for you, only for himself. Do whatever you need to do for you to feel safe and move on, whether that’s reporting/telling friends/speaking to the various charities listed or getting checked by your GP. There is no right or wrong way to act or to report, it’s what you need to do to get through this. You are being a fantastic mum for not staying with him just for help with childcare, you are giving your child the best chance in life to not let this happen to them having grown up seeing it as normal behaviour. You have protected them from that in their future, you, awesome you.

NadiaVulvokov · 07/11/2021 11:36

Sorry to hear you feel alone and scared @angryandscared1

You’re going down the right road to split. And I think you’ve got a good grasp of the dynamic there that he’s scared of consequences rather than remorseful.

Wish I could give you a hug. Keep going, you’ve got this.