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Partner has no respect for my sexual boundaries

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angryandscared1 · 06/11/2021 08:01

I'm so angry and upset. NC for this but regular poster.

I'm sorry this is quite long and some graphic descriptions of sexual nature so please don't read on if this isn't for you.

Partner and I have 7 month baby, things have been v stressful since baby was born, no time for each other etc. We've been working on it.

We very rarely have sex, it's just impossible to find the time or energy, both always exhausted. I'd say we have sex once every 2-3 weeks since baby's birth, it used to be every other day or at least 4 times a week so I understand his frustration. I also feel differently now, hate my body how it's changed so much (used to be slim and toned now have larger tummy and thighs), and also I just don't have much libido anymore.

Anyway last night we were kissing in bed etc and I said I wanted to try and have sex. I was very clear it had to be with a condom or nothing (I'm not on any birth control at the moment and definitely don't want another baby yet), and I also said I need you to be gentle and careful. He agreed. He then proceeded to be quite rough with his fingers, I had to remind him twice please be gentle that hurts. Then he attempted to penetrate me without the condom on, I said what are you doing, he said I wanted to "feel you" - I said again, no we need to take this seriously as I don't want to end up pregnant again. He seemed to accept that but the rest of the foreplay seemed half hearted so I felt he wasn't interested and was impatient to get to the "main event". He kept pushing to penetrate me (more with his body language than anything). I felt under pressure. He also had his hand on my throat at one point - I removed it but didn't say anything to him. After some foreplay I said ok we can do it now - he then entered me quite aggressively from behind without a condom (I didn't realise at this point he didn't have one on). I was so taken aback by how rough it was, I didn't know what to say or do, it hurt so much. He was being very aggressive, I tried to get up on my knees to stop the pain but I couldn't. I have no idea why I didn't just say stop, but I was in shock with it. Then he said he was going to ejaculate on my bum - I suddenly realised there was no condom. I started to cry and pull away from him then I just left the bed sat in the bathroom and cried.

Afterwards I said how hurt and angry I was that he has no respect for my boundaries. He claimed it was "hard to remember" to use a condom because we never used to before the baby. I think this is a ridiculous excuse, I said several times please use one. With regard to being rough with me, he said "I thought you wanted rough sex" (not sure how, I'd said several times during foreplay, please be gentle).

This morning he's making me feel like I've done something wrong. I said technically he had raped me by penetrating me against my consent without a condom - he got annoyed when I used that word and said "fine we aren't having sex ever again if you're going accuse me of that - from now on this is a sexless relationship and I'll stay just for the baby".

I'm so confused about the whole thing. Did he rape me? Should I have spoken up sooner and said stop when it hurt? I just can't make sense of any of it and I don't want him anywhere near me anymore. Sad

OP posts:
ChristmasPlanning · 06/11/2021 17:41

Would baby take formula for 7 hours or can you express?

You need to get away from him, whether that means going away to family/someone you trust or going into emergency accommodation such as a refuge.

Is the property owned or rented?

ChristmasPlanning · 06/11/2021 17:42

Also this is not your fault

WonderfulYou · 06/11/2021 17:42

Also I can't breastfeed my baby for 8 hours if I take the MAP apparently. So he's taken that from me too.

Can you express your milk and then feed baby with a bottle?

I believe you have 72 hours (I could be wrong) for the MAP so don’t worry about doing that today.

LimpLettice · 06/11/2021 17:43

Feed the baby. If the worst happens you can terminate. Or express. Feed your baby tiki gut anyway L and call a friend, another mum, a hotel. How far from your family are you? Can you afford to throw money at the problem and get a room for the night? He is making you feel it's your fault for a reason. This man is not a good father, not a good partner, not fit to wipe your feet on.

Nanny0gg · 06/11/2021 17:43

@IfIHadAHeart

Yes, it explains why I’m asking about his shifts Hmm
With a distinct lack of sympathy or empathy with the OP
AcrossthePond55 · 06/11/2021 17:43

@angryandscared1

How far is your family? If you're on mat leave then you theoretically could go to them assuming they aren't in another country, at least until your mat leave is nearly over and you have to return to work. You may even be able to find a job closer to them, given time, if you go now and start a job search. Even if you only have a few months left, that's enough to make decisions and get a new life started. One thing is plain, you cannot stay with him.

If someone likes 'rough sex' 🤮 that's their own business but if so they need to be with someone who is sexually compatible. But IMHO he's a sexual sadist who enjoys inflicting fear and pain on someone who does not enjoy it. He wants a victim, not a sexual partner with the same desires.

As far as his threat to leave and 'never come back', that would be a 'win' in my book and enough to have me dialing double quick.

EarthSight · 06/11/2021 17:43

You need to contact Women's Aid. Book a B&B if you have to. Don't tell him you're leaving or calling the police again.

LimpLettice · 06/11/2021 17:44

*tonight

nomorefrogs · 06/11/2021 17:46

You have a great opportunity now he has gone out. Either lock him out or leave with your baby and get somewhere safe. He is not going to have a personality change before he gets home - he will either up the stakes or try to wear you down. I am worried about your safety op - by threatening the police you have worried him and worried men are unpredictable. Please leave the house. Gather your important documents and as much as you can put into your car then drive somewhere with your baby. If you don't have anyone to go to then let us know where you are and you can come to one of us.

PickupaPenguin8 · 06/11/2021 17:48

Can your family come and get you?

AnnieKenney · 06/11/2021 17:48

BackBackBack

Tell him to leave. Tell him he raped you and if he doesn't leave then you will call the police - which will have serious ramifications for him given his job. Tell him the relationship is over and he can find someone else

Please don't do this. He has already displayed concerning signs of escalation - don't issue any threats to his face. Wait until you or he are far apart / you have additional security in place (such as someone else in your home when you tell him to leave). Please - to do otherwise is potentially very dangerous and I say this as someone with over 30 years of experience of working in domestic abuse.

WonderfulYou · 06/11/2021 17:48

Are there any men on here?
How would you feel if your partner lied about you raping her?
Not as in there were blurred lines and you thought one thing and she thought the other but as in actual rape where she said no to something and you did it anyway?

If my partner made up a lie like that the relationship would be over. I would be gone that day and I would be distraught that someone would make up such a vicious lie about me.

I think it’s very telling that he is not actually that shocked that you are so upset by this and his response is how he’s not being sexually fulfilled.
He knows what he did was wrong but he just doesn’t care.

Quartz2208 · 06/11/2021 17:59

This isnt your fault at all. It is clear I think that he gets off on violence and a lack of consent

Please do call someone though OP he is escalating and fast and you need support

Honeyroar · 06/11/2021 18:05

@layladomino

His response is telling you everything you need to know about him.

EVEN IF last night was a misunderstanding ...

(which of course it wasn't, as you were very clear you wanted only gentle sex, and with a condom. He knew exactly what you were consenting to)

.... but even if it was some sort of misunderstanding, any half-decent man would now be beside himself that he had physically hurt you, made you frightened of him, made you doubt if you can trust him ever again. He was be apoligising, begging your forgiveness, trying to assure you it would never happen again. He'd be angry at himself and upset that you were upset.

But he isn't even doing that. He's angry.

So - he disregards your boundaries
He is rough when you said you want gentle
He doesn't use a condom when you say that's essential
He minimises what he's done
He isn't sorry he's hurt you / scared you / shown you you can't trust him....

and he thinks he's the victim?

Yes I agree with this.

Every time you bring it up he shouts and blames you. Has proper sulky tantrums. This is not the action of someone who cares or “just got carried away”, it’s the action of a self centred, uncaring jerk.

Planesmistakenforstars · 06/11/2021 18:06

OP you mentioned that you have a friend that you can tell, can you call her? It might help you process what you are going through if you can talk with someone in real life. Could you go to her house? Even for just a few hours to be somewhere that you know you are safe without worrying about him coming back at any point.

myheartskippedabeat · 06/11/2021 18:06

@angryandscared1

I threatened the police. He said do you do that and I promise you'll never see me again.
I'm so sorry your in this situation I truly am but I wouldn't be bothered about ever seeing him again he sounds awful 😞 Get a bag packed and get out while he's gone out
user1471465608 · 06/11/2021 18:11

@angryandscared1

Also I can't breastfeed my baby for 8 hours if I take the MAP apparently. So he's taken that from me too.
It looks like the 8 hours advice is out of date and not evidence based OP, you should be ok to carry on www.breastfeedingnetwork.org.uk/ehc/

www.nhs.uk/conditions/contraception/emergency-contraception/

Honeyroar · 06/11/2021 18:12

Of course he’s trying to tell you it’s your fault - otherwise he has to admit it’s his fault and feel bad about himself..

lovelybones1 · 06/11/2021 18:12

Is pumping enough an option so you can take the MAP

lovelybones1 · 06/11/2021 18:14

www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/ see if refuge is an option link is above number is 08082000247 i am sorry this happened to you op

HollowTalk · 06/11/2021 18:21

@angryandscared1

He has made me feel it's all my fault Sad
How can it possibly be your fault? That is enough of a reason to get rid of him.
CallMeNutribullet · 06/11/2021 18:27

It wasn't technically rape op. It was rape in every sense.
I'm sure this isn't the only time he's sexually abused you.

ChargingBuck · 06/11/2021 18:33

@angryandscared1

He's spent the last 2 hours telling me how disappointing I am in bed because it's "too gentle" for him. I'm physically repulsed.
oh god. he is building up to "I didn't rape you, & if I did it's all your fault anyway".

Alongside "you'd better not say The R Word, or I will shout until terrify you back into silence".

lynntheyresexpeople · 06/11/2021 18:33

Do you have a friend you could go stay with op? A hotel?

ChargingBuck · 06/11/2021 18:36

@angryandscared1

He said once every 3 weeks isn't enough and masturbation doesn't satisfy him!
I find not being given £5k every 3 weeks doesn't satisfy me, so am justified in robbing a bank.

Which he knows full well is not a defence in law.
Neither is his. You know he is just manipulating you into accepting responsibility for his violence to you, no?