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Struggling with ex getting new partner

103 replies

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 14:11

Background: my ex was mean, controlling, and emotionally abusive and I left him because of this.

He insists on staying in our daughter's life (I realise this is a good thing on balance) but he continues to be mean and try to control me to the extent he can, through her.

He has started seeing a new woman who also has a small daughter. They took the children on holiday together over half term, though supposedly have only actually been in a relationship for a month or so. (I believe that they have been seeing each other for months but that he was lying to me).

My daughter has returned with stories of how Daddy took care of her the whole time, how he would read to the two girls while his girlfriend lay in bed with them, etc etc

When we were together, he would never have spent this kind of time with me. He would have said it wasn't efficient and he would have left me get our daughter bathed and to bed alone while he had a drink or something.

He also has been telling me that I wasn't a great mum because I work full time. The girlfriend apparently is a better mum who only works part time.

I maintain as little contact with him as possible and I have been trying to move on since I left two years ago. But this is absolutely killing me, the idea that maybe he is capable of being a good dad and partner, the thought that he would be caring and loving toward someone else, the sneaking suspicion that maybe the reason he wasn't nice to me really is that I'm too difficult, too demanding, too argumentative.

Help! What do I do? How do I cope?

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Whydidimarryhim · 22/11/2021 16:11

He’s already showing his true colours - he’s a twat isn’t he.
You are really really well rid.
Is he a narcissistic do you think?
Keep your distance from him in anyway you can.
No point talking about a relationship that’s over with him.
Do not engage.
Your using your head space on him.
No one should live in your head rent free!!
What are you doing for yourself?
Leave men for now and focus on you.
Let’s hope he has a shit holiday. 😁

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 20:41

Update to this.

My daughter keeps coming home with stories of all of the glorious things she is doing with daddy and his girlfriend. It's like a knife to the heart every time. I so desperately wanted my ex to do family things with me and my daughter. It's like torture to know that he is being who I wanted him to be with this woman.

Logically I know it's because he has no choice when it's his time with our daughter - he can't exactly dump her off with his girlfriend (yet) the way he did with me. But it hurts so much.

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gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 20:45

Also, he won't leave me the fuck alone, which is part of why he's still in my mind. In the past two weeks he has:

Refused to pay maintenance on the basis he has found some loophole which he believes means he has been overpaying (this actually started a month ago)

Announced to me that he is getting a male lodger to help pay his bills even though he knows I don't want my child in a house with a strange man

Refused to give back something that my mother made for our daughter

Sent numerous emails about other petty crap, demanding a response

It's just too much.

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Embracelife · 20/12/2021 20:52

Counselling will help you to stop making it all about him.
Every post is about him.... he is not so important

Indifference is the goal here.

He is your dd father
Let her enjoy lovely times while they last
Be ready to catch her when they don't

Cherrysoup · 20/12/2021 21:27

You need to minimise contact. Forget getting back the item your mum made, it just gives him power over you. Ignore his emails, block him or mark them as phishing. Get a burner phone and tell him to use that number (or dump your current phone and only use it once a week when he needs to pick up/drop off)

Re maintenance, did you go through cms? You can go to court if he stops paying/behaves poorly. Log everything he does, keep the messages in a separate folder. Could your mum check the messages and just tell you anything you NEED to know?

Successgirl2022 · 20/12/2021 21:50

What did you sacrifice for him when you were a couple?

Successgirl2022 · 20/12/2021 21:50

I would start dating and start believing there IS your True Soulmate there for you for sure.

RedCandyApple · 20/12/2021 22:11

I would rather his partner was treating my daughter nice than being horrible tbh, I do think you need to get over him, go to cms if he is refusing to pay, don’t engage with him over petty things, you can’t stop him having lodgers..

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 22:34

Just to clarify, he was very emotionally abusive and I have repeatedly asked him to stop contacting me.

Every email he sends is at least 5 long paragraphs. The email refusing to return the thing my mom made was 10 paragraphs long and dredged up many of his disputes with me, painted himself as a victim, and made me out to be a dishonest monster.

He won't leave me alone. I truly feel he ruined my life and he continues twisting the knife. He's also clearly enjoying acting like he's nice and reasonable now, while doing things that are clearly unreasonable. Then he lectures me in these long screeds about how I am creating conflict. It's just horrible.

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gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 22:35

And I will be going to CMS but my life is super stressful right now (which he knows and no doubt is exploiting). A lot of his messaging is that I am making things contentious by bringing CMS into it

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RedCandyApple · 20/12/2021 22:35

You don’t have to read his emails, I would suggest not reading them at all and only speaking if it’s about the child.

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 22:37

@RedCandyApple what's difficult is that this is like another round of gaslighting. He is dating someone, spending Christmas with her, apparently being wonderful, and I keep thinking that maybe actually I was the problem. He's lovely enough now to have got himself into a nice relationship while I am still very alone and feel worthless.

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RedCandyApple · 20/12/2021 22:40

Trust me he is the problem, they all act lovely at first, remember that. He won’t be able to keep it up.

user1481840227 · 20/12/2021 22:53

Clearly he hasn't changed OP because if he had actually changed for the better then he wouldn't still be acting the way he does towards you.

He is obviously at the stage with the girlfriend where he's trying to get her hooked on him which is why he's acting like that with her and the kids but that won't last either.

Good decent men don't treat their new partner well while emotionally abusing their ex, that just doesn't happen.

I just don't understand why he's worthy of love but I'm not. I keep thinking maybe he has changed!
Because he's putting on an act making out he's Mr Perfect doing everything for this woman. You could meet a man and act like Mary Poppins and act like the perfect woman in every way too to get them to love you but it won't last if that's not who you really are!

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 22:54

@Successgirl2022 i literally changed my entire life for him. I had a child that I didn't really want. (She is now the apple of my eye, but my life has become exactly what I didn't want for myself.)

I have gone on a few OLD dates but I am struggling to imagine that any man could be worth trusting/becoming vulnerable for. Maybe I need to shift my mindset.

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NoNameHere12 · 20/12/2021 22:57

Come on OP!!!! This is a tale as old as time.

Of course his great now, all loving, caring and full of life!! The difference between you and her, is that you know where their relationship will end up, she is none the wiser yet-she will discover it in time though, how unfortunate for her, she has it to come!
You have passed that road and on to better things.

alwayswrighty · 20/12/2021 22:57

My ex goes through cycles of 'perfect parent' bullshit when he gets with a new woman. He can keep it up for a year but then turns back into a cunt.

AnneLovesGilbert · 20/12/2021 22:57

You’ve got your lovely DD, you’re not alone. And you’re not worthless.

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 22:57

@user1481840227 thank you. Even now it's so difficult for me to understand that people can be like this, even though I KNOW it's what he's like.

@RedCandyApple thanks to you also. I don't understand why it is so difficult to really get this into my head.

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gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 23:05

@NoNameHere12 seriously. Poor lady. She was very rude to me the one time I saw her, but I still feel sorry for what I think she has coming to her someday (when I am not torturing myself with illusory visions of them living in bliss)

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gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 23:06

@AnneLovesGilbert thanks Flowers

My DD is now 5 and she is really blossoming. It's really magical to see what an amazing and kind person she is already. I just love her to death.

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Lachimolala · 20/12/2021 23:38

@KirstenBlest

He's doing it to hook the girlfiend into being a nanny-cum-housekeepeer.

These men don't change.

This. My ex did this to me and the moron I am fell for it hook line and sinker 🙄

Give it time, he’ll revert to type. They always do.

gelatodipistacchio · 20/12/2021 23:48

@Lachimolala ugh, I'm so sorry

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Lachimolala · 21/12/2021 00:18

@gelatodipistacchio I’m nearly 10 months free of him after 5 years of hell. Of course he’s already seeing someone else, I have no doubt he’s love bombing her, being the perfect father and partner and promising her the world just like he did me. I also have no doubt the hell that’s coming her way, men like this never change. I’m just grateful for my freedom.

gelatodipistacchio · 02/01/2022 09:30

Update: ex had my daughter over Christmas and he spent it with the new girlfriend. She drives him around (he is too cheap to buy a car despite his huge income) and her mum looked after my daughter while they were having fun and sleeping in and stuff.

My daughter is of course full of stories of the wonderful time they had. She says that the gf and my ex always get along.

In the meantime, he is withholding maintenance for my daughter while at the same time acting nice, presumably to feel he has the higher ground and to strengthen his belief that I am just difficult and have mental problems.

It's like torture. Why is he (apparently) nice to her? Why was he so mean to me? Why can he find love while I am so alone?

It's like torture

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