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Struggling with ex getting new partner

103 replies

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 14:11

Background: my ex was mean, controlling, and emotionally abusive and I left him because of this.

He insists on staying in our daughter's life (I realise this is a good thing on balance) but he continues to be mean and try to control me to the extent he can, through her.

He has started seeing a new woman who also has a small daughter. They took the children on holiday together over half term, though supposedly have only actually been in a relationship for a month or so. (I believe that they have been seeing each other for months but that he was lying to me).

My daughter has returned with stories of how Daddy took care of her the whole time, how he would read to the two girls while his girlfriend lay in bed with them, etc etc

When we were together, he would never have spent this kind of time with me. He would have said it wasn't efficient and he would have left me get our daughter bathed and to bed alone while he had a drink or something.

He also has been telling me that I wasn't a great mum because I work full time. The girlfriend apparently is a better mum who only works part time.

I maintain as little contact with him as possible and I have been trying to move on since I left two years ago. But this is absolutely killing me, the idea that maybe he is capable of being a good dad and partner, the thought that he would be caring and loving toward someone else, the sneaking suspicion that maybe the reason he wasn't nice to me really is that I'm too difficult, too demanding, too argumentative.

Help! What do I do? How do I cope?

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Maybebaby8 · 01/11/2021 19:35

Oh OP I really feel for you, I remember feeling exactly like you. My EX was nasty but it still hurt when he just flounced off and got a new girlfriend, who he went and rented a house with, played fairytale farther with the children. Who he does the absolute bare minimum with.

Let me just tell you it didn't last, his true colours came through and their relationship ended after a year. I went to therapy, got a good job, I was single for 5 year's before I met my DP. It WILL get better and one day you'll thank God some one else has to deal with his bull*t and not you. Keep going I know it's hard.

CaMePlaitPas · 01/11/2021 19:38

I just hope for the two children involved that he has changed for the better. Try to concentrate on the good things in your life OP x

Raychelle · 01/11/2021 19:46

True colours will shine through eventually you can count on that! He’s playing the game at the moment, it won’t last. You are better off without.

SnowWhitesSM · 01/11/2021 19:48

Sometimes different people bring out different aspects of each other.

Sometimes it becomes abusive with one person and that person learns how to get their needs met without abuse in another relationship. I would try to think and hope that your ex has managed to change how he gets his needs met so that your dd has a stable time at her dads without witnessing abuse.

It isn't anything you did or didn't do. It's not personal.

iveleft40 · 01/11/2021 19:55

@SnowWhitesSM

Sometimes different people bring out different aspects of each other.

Sometimes it becomes abusive with one person and that person learns how to get their needs met without abuse in another relationship. I would try to think and hope that your ex has managed to change how he gets his needs met so that your dd has a stable time at her dads without witnessing abuse.

It isn't anything you did or didn't do. It's not personal.

I agree with this.

If I stood up to my H more we either would of broken up straight away or i could of been the one to bring him down a peg or two.

I'm not blaming myself but I have always had issues since I was a teenager.

I met H and he played on that and I've become weaker as a result.

If he met someone who was strong willed and knew her own mind, wasn't going to take any shit etc....that may bring another side out of him.

Who knows but it is what it is.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:01

@SnowWhitesSM this thought actually kills me. It makes me feel it's my fault it ended. He definitely blames me, and always says I was too sensitive, or too aggressive, or too angry. The idea that it could have been a good relationship if I had been better somehow is like torture, because my life has been ruined by this relationship. I'm destroyed.

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Pugmumm · 01/11/2021 20:03

It's a front OP. Give it a couple of months to a year the new woman will have the same problems you faced. He is trying to control his new victim.

Pugmumm · 01/11/2021 20:04

@litterbird

'Background: my ex was mean, controlling, and emotionally abusive and I left him because of this.'

Your ex is only playing at being this great dad. It is to hook his next victim in and he seems to be doing a good job. He will begin his abusive tendencies soon when he really knows his victim is not going anywhere and she is under his spell.....sit back, grab some popcorn and watch from the side lines.

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Suzi888 · 01/11/2021 20:07

[quote gelatodipistacchio]@beautifulview that's the view I have taken but it's harder the more serious he seems to be with her, and the more lovely his conduct now seems to be.

He has painted himself as the victim, saying that I broke his heart and I have mental problems Sad[/quote]
If I was the new woman, alarm bells would be ringing.
I also think it’s an act to reel her in and then, in time he will go back to his old ways. It’s very unlikely he’s magically changed into a decent human being.

flowerbomb21 · 01/11/2021 20:07

How old are the kids ? And do
You see yourself dating someone too in the future ? Is this the first gf he had since you split ? Only because the first one id always the hardest. @gelatodipistacchio

SnowWhitesSM · 01/11/2021 20:08

No I don't mean that it's the fault of the woman for not being strong enough. Abusive behaviour is always the fault of the abuser. We are responsible for our own reactions.

But (and lundcroft says this) abusive men don't start off with the intention to abuse. Some men who abuse do so because it works for them and their value system is off. They other the victim.
That is not the victims fault.

Some hate what they have become and sort their shit out. Sometimes it takes them meeting someone new to sort their shit out because they learn from their mistakes. It isn't personal and you are not at fault for how you were treated.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:14

@SnowWhitesSM well, he continues to be just awful to me, awful and entitled. I don't think he has learnt anything to be honest. He still retreats to the comfort of the idea that he was just trying to do his best for the family and I refused to cooperate (all while he applied intensive control and manipulation onto me).

@flowerbomb21 they are 3 and 4. Yes, first girlfriend.

I've dated a little but can't really trust or get excited about anyone. I also think most men are trash.

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Newwifeatnumber10 · 01/11/2021 20:14

Why do all these posters almost want the OPs ex to be horrible to his new partner. I feel sorry OP has had an abusive relationship but why wish that on someone else? My husband’s ex said/still says these horrible things about me. We’ve been together almost 7 years and he’s never shown me the abuse she claimed he showed her. I’m not saying it didn’t happen but different people react differently to others.

Fireflygal · 01/11/2021 20:16

@SnowWhitesSM, if this man is changing then he will change how he is to the Op.

If he reflects on his behaviour he will be positive towards the Op, maybe even apologise. Some how I don't think that will happen.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:17

@Newwifeatnumber10

Well, I want him not to have changed because it absolutely kills me to think of everything I went through and sacrificed for him, and to imagine some other woman dropping in and living the life that should have been mine. It also makes me feel that it was my fault that he was so goddamn mean to me

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KirstenBlest · 01/11/2021 20:18

@Newwifeatnumber10, because you haven't overstepped the mark yet.

They start off being great but if one day you call them out on something they'll snap.

I look back now and see the red flags but I didn't see them at the time.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:23

Oh god, I feel like I am being sucked back into the self-recriminations.

He thought that I was too needy and negative. That's probably true in some ways. If I had been very confident maybe it would have been different. He kept forcing/bullying me into situations I told him I didn't want. Then when things went badly, i became more resentful and he was angry with my resentment. I often let him have his way or pandered to him, thinking he would repay the favour when something was important to me - but I was wrong. It turned out he felt entitled to have his way all of the time.

If someone always rolled over and let him have his way, or was an eternally people pleasing optimist maybe it would have worked?

God, I hate myself.

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gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:26

I'm so neurotic and broken. He was so annoyed by my insecurities. He despised me for them, and would attack me with resentment using my weak spots as weapons.

He expected me to be perfectly happy letting him run the show, never prioritising me and our baby unless he felt like it, and then I had to he happy with what attention he felt i was worthy of.

I truly don't think anyone could love me. He was supposed to love me but he treated me like he despised me.

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Newwifeatnumber10 · 01/11/2021 20:26

OP I hear you but it’s not her fault your relationship failed and you shouldn’t wish abuse on anyone? Regardless of the reason. You’re being equally mean to a woman you don’t know.

@KirstenBlest in 7 years I’d say I’ve overstepped! We’ve had some blazing rows in that time and I’ve said some terrible things but I’d never say he’s abused me as his ex has claimed.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:28

@Newwifeatnumber10 of course I don't want her to be abused. But if he's not horrible and cruel anymore, I want my life back. He's forced me into relative poverty, looking after our daughter every day of the work week so he can excel in his career but I can't.

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KirstenBlest · 01/11/2021 20:30

I'm a people-pleaser and I bet the OW was too.

The first time I stood up to him he turned nasty.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:31

And she appears to come from a wealthy family. He despised me for coming from nothing (though I have formed myself into an educated and accomplished woman through sheer force of will). He pushed me around until he got his life in order and I couldn't stand his abuse anymore. Maybe now everything is looking up and she has the resources and personality for him to respect and love her

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iveleft40 · 01/11/2021 20:31

[quote gelatodipistacchio]@Newwifeatnumber10 of course I don't want her to be abused. But if he's not horrible and cruel anymore, I want my life back. He's forced me into relative poverty, looking after our daughter every day of the work week so he can excel in his career but I can't.[/quote]
Have you ever thought he's in this new relationship and acting the perfect partner and doting father just to get at you?

And he's winning op. He's still winning.

Get some counselling, get your life back and move on.

That's the best thing you can do for you (which is most important) and the biggest punishment you can give him.

MyButteredBread · 01/11/2021 20:32

Oh these days my dc's father is everything he never was when we were together. He's just pretending, to make a good show of things for his new wife, her family and their church community.

I've decided I dgaf. He's a hollow shell of a human being and she's a right mug for being pulled into his orbit. They can have each other, and they can spend a fortune on the dc every other weekend. The dc know where they are safe, stable and unconditionally loved.

gelatodipistacchio · 01/11/2021 20:34

@iveleft40 no, I honestly don't think he is. He hid the girlfriend as long as he could. I think she just gives him what he wants/needs

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