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Partners "past" attitudes on social media

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miximitoes · 23/10/2021 23:17

I'll try to keep this short. Ha! I've asked friends for perspective and opinions vary; I am very slowly losing my mind.

My (non-live in) partner of a few years is very lovely, kind, attentive, "aware" etc and I love him very much. I am, at the same time, guarded and generally suspicious of men. This is due to childhood issues, a couple of severe deceptions in long term relationships (pretty serious stuff), my general no nonsense feminism, and probably much more. I've never had a lot of time for laddishness, leery behaviour, etc. Hard to have perspective as I think some of my closest lovely friends think I'm probably too hard a task master on men in some ways.

To cut to the point, my partner revealed a few serious things (red flags but a long long time in his past) early in our relationship. We talked, processed and "sort of" moved on. We then made friends on social media, and I admit that I did some digging.

I don't know if I need to defend this as I think people are mixed about this. To clarify I didn't hack, have never looked at his phone, his diaries, or anything like that. Only what was in the public domain. To me, this, as a mother and as a cautious new partner is kind of fair game, but I know some people will say not. I dont think I would have done it if he'd not revealed quite a colourful past, so I suppose I was looking for either comfort or confirmation.

Anyway, I saw quite a lot of laddish type posts. And several years later I still can't quite get past this. Nothing pornographic or really low brow, but a general low level phwoar attitude to some women that I personally find off putting to see on a middle aged mans "wall".

Basically included....

Him putting up posts of actors/singers he found hot. Nothing too graphic just expressing he thought they were hot.
Following some of these and I can see he has liked some of their pictures (nothing salacious particularly but just them looking hot!).
A link to the "top ten" hottest airline cabin crew (not particularly pictures, just the list of companies from some silly article ... which he indicated he agreed with).
A discussion with a friend about hot tennis players (20 years his junior) at Wimbledon.
A few Likes of others more leering posts. Some of which I would say are fairly sexist.

So, compared to what others have to see on partners social media he isn't following camgirls, Instagram modes, talking in a very derogatory manner about women etc. But I'm just a bit yuck at a lot of this. I think on its own, each of these things is sort of something and nothing. Mindless. Most of his posting isn't related to anything like this.

I suppose I'm venting. I can't seem to get it out of my head. and it's on top of some other far more shocking info about his sexual past. I think that the fact he presents as pretty right on, and yet I've "seen" some of the banter...just makes me feel mistrust generally. Also, when I've asked him what his opinion is of a particular person (not out of the blue, prompted by seeing them on tv etc), he's indicated he doesn't know really who they are (evidence would show otherwise!!).

So, mumsnet... am I over the top and mental, past is the past, he treats me well. I can't see that these posts have occurred since we've been together but they were there until fairly soon before we met. Or, is someone's real attitude writ large on fb etc, and the mr nice guy is just for me; that he's probably a bit of a "bloke" when with his mates. My view is that if someone is prepared to be blokey on fb, they're probably much worse when with their mates?!!!

Talk me down and slap my face, or tell me that I need to strengthen my own boundaries, I have no idea what's even acceptable on SM anymore.

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RosieCockle · 23/10/2021 23:34

I wouldn't give a stuff. I've spent tonight lusting after Adam Peaty on Strictly in a WhatsApp group with friends. Others liked other people. It's forgotten tomorrow. I really couldn't get worked up a lot this.

Pinkbonbon · 23/10/2021 23:41

The discussion about the Wimbledon players 20 years younger is a bit ick. But most of the rest of it wouldn't bother me.

BUT the liking sexist posts would probably be game over for me. I guess maybe depending on the material but...any mysoginy...I probably wouldn't be able to trust someone like that again tbh.

Timeforredwine · 23/10/2021 23:42

I would think leave it in the past if he treats you well & it isnt happening now

miximitoes · 23/10/2021 23:46

@Pinkbonbon

The discussion about the Wimbledon players 20 years younger is a bit ick. But most of the rest of it wouldn't bother me.

BUT the liking sexist posts would probably be game over for me. I guess maybe depending on the material but...any mysoginy...I probably wouldn't be able to trust someone like that again tbh.

The Wimbledon thing (from ten years ago... when he was 40ish...I know Grin) was him and a mate lusting over one of the players. He also made a comment to the effect that the players had been ugly for years so it was good to see such "good work at a grass roots level". I found this derogatory, leery and just so u like the man I know. He does have quite a dark sense of humour and I'm sure he'd say it was this but still...

But ten years ago.

The other posts (from someone famous) were a couple Of things such as a pair of breasts in a low cut top with a post saying something to the effect of "so glad summer is here". Again, on its own something and nothing but to me just a bit bloody blokey and grim.

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01FHL · 23/10/2021 23:48

Values of yesterday could well be history now he has you.

Nobody here can say they have not posted something they later regretted.

Pinkbonbon · 23/10/2021 23:50

The fact that he would post that shit publicly too just shows a large degree of entitlement.

Yes, those tenis players who worked their whole life and achieved something great should be reduced to how attractive they are to a sad, 40 year old man :/ grim.

I don't really belive a man posting these things at 40, is any different at 50 tbh.

Let's put it this way, my guard would be well and truly up after seeing that.

miximitoes · 23/10/2021 23:52

@01FHL

Values of yesterday could well be history now he has you.

Nobody here can say they have not posted something they later regretted.

Hmmm interesting yes. He would say no doubt (and I've probably only mentioned a tiny bit of this to him, he knows I've looked but very broadly...) that he wasn't thinking and it was just nothing, silliness. He would claim to be more mindful of feminism since being with me, but I suppose I always wonder if that's actually because he now realises these things are a bit laddish (and so he can't present like that to me), rather than actually thinking differently.
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Clandestin · 23/10/2021 23:53

I’d find it utterly unattractive, and ditch him. And I don’t think that finding it depressing and knuckle-draggerish that your boyfriend in the recent past thought it was fine to publicly record his caveman views makes you in any way. ‘hard taskmaster’.

miximitoes · 23/10/2021 23:54

@Pinkbonbon

The fact that he would post that shit publicly too just shows a large degree of entitlement.

Yes, those tenis players who worked their whole life and achieved something great should be reduced to how attractive they are to a sad, 40 year old man :/ grim.

I don't really belive a man posting these things at 40, is any different at 50 tbh.

Let's put it this way, my guard would be well and truly up after seeing that.

I know. I'm a bit heartbroken. He's such a lovely person. Everyone loves him that I know. But then you see this and what the hell are you supposed to deduce.

I've had convos with him about the sexualisation of sportswomen and he's agreed. I can't explain it. The guy he posts this with is supposed to be one of his more "right on" friends I think. Awful really.

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ANameChangeAgain · 23/10/2021 23:56

If I were single I would probably join in with the many Tom Hardy, Ant Middleton, Chris Hemworth appreciation / objectification posts. Unless the women he commented on were very young or the comments were unsafe, I would roll my eyes but ignore. I wouldn't put up with comments during a relationship however.

Fireflygal · 23/10/2021 23:59

I can't see that these posts have occurred since we've been together but they were there until fairly soon before we met

I don't believe thee attitude of a 40plus year old man changes. I suspect he knows you don't like it so his behaviour has changed but but not his attitude.

You mention red flags, that's more important and perhaps you haven't moved on as you hoped. Trust your instinct.

Ex H hid who he really was until we married often commitment is the trigger to revert to type

Silenceisgolden20 · 23/10/2021 23:59

So these posts are public? Shock

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:00

@Silenceisgolden20

So these posts are public? Shock
Well public to me as in his "friend" Grin
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Pinkbonbon · 24/10/2021 00:01

I have no real problem with a guy calling an actress hot ect..I think people sexualiase people and its just nature. To an extent (of course if there's a ton of it then it's icky).

But that devaluing women in the basis of their looks not measuring up to their exacting standards is just mysoginy plain and simple.

Silenceisgolden20 · 24/10/2021 00:01

Would make me really cringe. I don't know how you get past it knowing. All a bit gross

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:02

Most of the posts that are a bit hair raising are from ten years ago. He would be the first to say he's changed in quite a lot of ways since then. Not defending at all.

I feel like I am losing my mind and am really upset. I fluctuate between thinking go need to dump him and the n feeling like I'm being really over the top.

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Silenceisgolden20 · 24/10/2021 00:02

Oh, so public to his friends. Which means he doesn't have a problem with it or sees a problem with it.
That is gross

Silenceisgolden20 · 24/10/2021 00:04

I don't think you're being over the top. It's ok to say celebrities are hot or whatever but constant posts about them is sleazy.
Is he a bit of a sleaze?

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:05

@Fireflygal

I can't see that these posts have occurred since we've been together but they were there until fairly soon before we met

I don't believe thee attitude of a 40plus year old man changes. I suspect he knows you don't like it so his behaviour has changed but but not his attitude.

You mention red flags, that's more important and perhaps you haven't moved on as you hoped. Trust your instinct.

Ex H hid who he really was until we married often commitment is the trigger to revert to type

That's interesting. We're taking about committing in some way. I think that's why I've started to freak out about some of this stuff again.

It's odd as most of my good friends think he's really good for me and that I need to let things lie. I'm a pretty outspoken feminist... funny reading my own thread here to be honest. And one that I posted a year or so ago about the actual past behaviour. I know what I would say.

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BoxOfDreams · 24/10/2021 00:06

Sounds like a typical man child. Very cringy and unattractive. Find yourself a grown up.

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:09

@Silenceisgolden20

I don't think you're being over the top. It's ok to say celebrities are hot or whatever but constant posts about them is sleazy. Is he a bit of a sleaze?
There's not constant posts about them. No.

A period of a year or so where he posted a few interviews or whatever with an actress (different ones) and would say he was a big fan, or they were hot etc.

The tennis thing I'm a bit grossed out by.

Also posting a link to, let's say, a special interest journalist piece saying "blah blah is hot, but that's not the only reason I watch this Wink"

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Pinkbonbon · 24/10/2021 00:10

Hold off on any commitments that will be hard to get out of.

Any other red flags?
How does he take being told 'no' to things?

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:11

@Silenceisgolden20

I don't think you're being over the top. It's ok to say celebrities are hot or whatever but constant posts about them is sleazy. Is he a bit of a sleaze?
That's what I'm trying to determine Confused. After 4 years, I don't know! Not particularly.... but, with this, the past behaviour, and a couple of overheard conversations between him and his mate whilst we were at a gig... am not sure!
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Gilda152 · 24/10/2021 00:11

Sounds like something scores of women do too. I daresay if you scour MN talk boards you'll find plenty of threads about fit actors etc. and these people are probably typing that stuff whilst their husband sits across the room none the wiser. Not a big deal.

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 00:12

@Pinkbonbon

Hold off on any commitments that will be hard to get out of.

Any other red flags?
How does he take being told 'no' to things?

No In terms of...? He's not sexually aggressive. At all. People pleaser in some ways. Kind and quite gentle! Weird.
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