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Partners "past" attitudes on social media

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miximitoes · 23/10/2021 23:17

I'll try to keep this short. Ha! I've asked friends for perspective and opinions vary; I am very slowly losing my mind.

My (non-live in) partner of a few years is very lovely, kind, attentive, "aware" etc and I love him very much. I am, at the same time, guarded and generally suspicious of men. This is due to childhood issues, a couple of severe deceptions in long term relationships (pretty serious stuff), my general no nonsense feminism, and probably much more. I've never had a lot of time for laddishness, leery behaviour, etc. Hard to have perspective as I think some of my closest lovely friends think I'm probably too hard a task master on men in some ways.

To cut to the point, my partner revealed a few serious things (red flags but a long long time in his past) early in our relationship. We talked, processed and "sort of" moved on. We then made friends on social media, and I admit that I did some digging.

I don't know if I need to defend this as I think people are mixed about this. To clarify I didn't hack, have never looked at his phone, his diaries, or anything like that. Only what was in the public domain. To me, this, as a mother and as a cautious new partner is kind of fair game, but I know some people will say not. I dont think I would have done it if he'd not revealed quite a colourful past, so I suppose I was looking for either comfort or confirmation.

Anyway, I saw quite a lot of laddish type posts. And several years later I still can't quite get past this. Nothing pornographic or really low brow, but a general low level phwoar attitude to some women that I personally find off putting to see on a middle aged mans "wall".

Basically included....

Him putting up posts of actors/singers he found hot. Nothing too graphic just expressing he thought they were hot.
Following some of these and I can see he has liked some of their pictures (nothing salacious particularly but just them looking hot!).
A link to the "top ten" hottest airline cabin crew (not particularly pictures, just the list of companies from some silly article ... which he indicated he agreed with).
A discussion with a friend about hot tennis players (20 years his junior) at Wimbledon.
A few Likes of others more leering posts. Some of which I would say are fairly sexist.

So, compared to what others have to see on partners social media he isn't following camgirls, Instagram modes, talking in a very derogatory manner about women etc. But I'm just a bit yuck at a lot of this. I think on its own, each of these things is sort of something and nothing. Mindless. Most of his posting isn't related to anything like this.

I suppose I'm venting. I can't seem to get it out of my head. and it's on top of some other far more shocking info about his sexual past. I think that the fact he presents as pretty right on, and yet I've "seen" some of the banter...just makes me feel mistrust generally. Also, when I've asked him what his opinion is of a particular person (not out of the blue, prompted by seeing them on tv etc), he's indicated he doesn't know really who they are (evidence would show otherwise!!).

So, mumsnet... am I over the top and mental, past is the past, he treats me well. I can't see that these posts have occurred since we've been together but they were there until fairly soon before we met. Or, is someone's real attitude writ large on fb etc, and the mr nice guy is just for me; that he's probably a bit of a "bloke" when with his mates. My view is that if someone is prepared to be blokey on fb, they're probably much worse when with their mates?!!!

Talk me down and slap my face, or tell me that I need to strengthen my own boundaries, I have no idea what's even acceptable on SM anymore.

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miximitoes · 24/10/2021 15:37

@PlanDeRaccordement

His behaviour with me is mature and thoughtful and doesn't match this past online persona. Which is the problem.

Why would you expect it to match? No one is the same person at 50 that they were at 40, 30, or 20. We all grow and mature, but most importantly we do change. I have a friend who spent her 20s as a stripper and prostitute doing extreme group sex and every drug under the sun...she is now in her 40s and a respected happily married GP doctor specialising in Pediatrics.

My DH also had a less than savoury past when I met him. But he got out of that life and became who he was meant to be, which is a fantastic loving and caring man.

You have every right for a bad past to be a deal breaker to you, my point is that people do change, and some change a lot more than others do. So if you can accept his past, and he is a good man now by his current actions and words (including on SM), then I’d not dump him in your position. Most single people in their 50s have checkered pasts/baggage of one kind or another.

I know. We all change. And yes some more than others. I suppose when that happens though there's such an obvious contrast that it necessarily looks a bit "off". Not that it necessarily is, but it's stark isn't it, so maybe open to more doubt?
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miximitoes · 24/10/2021 15:40

@PlanDeRaccordement

His behaviour with me is mature and thoughtful and doesn't match this past online persona. Which is the problem.

Why would you expect it to match? No one is the same person at 50 that they were at 40, 30, or 20. We all grow and mature, but most importantly we do change. I have a friend who spent her 20s as a stripper and prostitute doing extreme group sex and every drug under the sun...she is now in her 40s and a respected happily married GP doctor specialising in Pediatrics.

My DH also had a less than savoury past when I met him. But he got out of that life and became who he was meant to be, which is a fantastic loving and caring man.

You have every right for a bad past to be a deal breaker to you, my point is that people do change, and some change a lot more than others do. So if you can accept his past, and he is a good man now by his current actions and words (including on SM), then I’d not dump him in your position. Most single people in their 50s have checkered pasts/baggage of one kind or another.

And... maybe your friend and he drank in the same pub 20 years ago (well... at least in the same village) 😬

To be fair I've got female friends not with the same story as your friend but flavours of, and yes that's an old old discarded version of them, so I do believe people can evolve.

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PlanDeRaccordement · 24/10/2021 15:45

Not that it necessarily is, but it's stark isn't it, so maybe open to more doubt?

I agree the greater the difference over the shorter the time, the more open to doubt as to the changes really being genuine. I don’t think that a few laddish posts over a ten year period to none now is stark at all though? It seems a minor change to me. But I don’t know what the shocking sexual past is that you mentioned or when it was?

Perhaps it is the sum of all things that makes the changes you see in him to be stark? It’s a tough call whether to wait and see or cut your losses and move on.

cheeselover2021 · 24/10/2021 15:45

Are you saying his sexual history you are uncomfortable with involved prostitutes?

If that’s the case I think his social media views are way way way under that!
I don’t think someone who has paid for sex could actually change a huge amount to be honest. If that’s what it was.
I certainly couldn’t remain in a relationship where that had come to light.

BringOnTheOtherWorlders · 24/10/2021 15:59

Since the metoo movement and conversations I have had with men - they had no idea they were objectifying women by oogling them. It was just so "normal" for men to say these things.

I'd probably just keep talking about it with him but it would not be a deal breaker for me.

I'm grateful every day I am so very old that the first half of my life was not permanently documented on the internet.

ChargingBuck · 24/10/2021 16:04

and it's on top of some other far more shocking info about his sexual past.

This point seems to have been sidelined ... what was this all about, OP?

miximitoes · 24/10/2021 16:17

@ChargingBuck

and it's on top of some other far more shocking info about his sexual past.

This point seems to have been sidelined ... what was this all about, OP?

There's a few things but some of it related to being a frequent visitor to a strip club. But there's a complicated other thread about that. Was with friends/work... a lot. Local, place to drink. Claims wasn't really his thing/choice (and he never had a lap dance... I think I do believe this) but went as a place to drink/bit of fun/ they knew the owner. Over a year or two I think. 20 years ago. Not been since apparently. I'm vehemently opposed. But have had to take his word that it was of it's time and he didn't really think it through 😩 I've had female friends go (not recently) that I love very much (albeit I don't agree with them) so have had to grant him this.
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miximitoes · 24/10/2021 16:19

@BringOnTheOtherWorlders

Since the metoo movement and conversations I have had with men - they had no idea they were objectifying women by oogling them. It was just so "normal" for men to say these things.

I'd probably just keep talking about it with him but it would not be a deal breaker for me.

I'm grateful every day I am so very old that the first half of my life was not permanently documented on the internet.

I know. Imagine that. Funnily enough something just came up for me from when before I met him, and one could read it as a bit of female banter. It's reads worse than it was... a drunken discussion between single friends of a list for internet dating. But I did think... gosh, one could read that the wrong way!
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maddy68 · 24/10/2021 16:20

I really couldn't get worked up about this ....

BookFiend4Life · 24/10/2021 17:21

I think it's gross and so embarrassing it's on social media. I would be ashamed of my partner if they had that on SM! I don't think 40 is any less shameful than 50! But I also don't think it's a risk to your relationship, like I don't think it necessarily means he will be unfaithful or anything. But I think it's very silly and makes him look like an idiot.

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